APRIL 2016 - OUTLAND SPOUSAL APPLICANTS

[yijiequ]

Yes I do think you should do that. Take every opportunity to prepare and try to avoid an interview and god forbid a refusal. Especially anything that deals with normal life like where you will live, insurance, health care, banking. Normal situations that married couples deal with. People in fake marriages do not plan a life together. That is the proof you want to send. You have nothing to lose by devoting your frustration with this process at preventing future problems. The speed of which they look at your case is out of our hands now. Try to prevent any further delays.

another thing now i realized might be a delay.. i am still undertaking my parents who immigrated and became PR in 2013. they have never been on welfare neither. maybe cic was taking time to check my parents.

 

[goldy19924]

as i live in india and my spouse is in canada
can i use her email for contacting their local mp

 

[johnybegood]

Yes I do think you should do that. Take every opportunity to prepare and try to avoid an interview and god forbid a refusal. Especially anything that deals with normal life like where you will live, insurance, health care, banking. Normal situations that married couples deal with. People in fake marriages do not plan a life together. That is the proof you want to send. You have nothing to lose by devoting your frustration with this process at preventing future problems. The speed of which they look at your case is out of our hands now. Try to prevent any further delays.

That was a very good response and greatly appreciated

 

[johnybegood]

as i live in india and my spouse is in canada
can i use her email for contacting their local mp

It doesn't matter who is contacting mp u or ur spouse. You both enquiring about the same problem and the canadian resident has the privilege of getting help from his/her mp

 

[ImABule]

I totally get it and understand and know how u feel lol
I dont think cic has any kinda prejudice or misconceptions about Muslims. May be some other countries but not canada....we have a huge Muslim population here!

It's not about prejudice against Muslims. It's about the "norm" and religious and cultural differences unfortunately attract scrutiny from CIC.

I am in the same boat. My wife is also Muslim but not religious. I'm a white Canadian who never had a religion. Her family is very religious. I converted because inter faith marriage is not legal in Indonesia and we wanted her family to approve and attend.

Completely understand where yijiequ is coming from.

 

[yijiequ]

That was a very good response and greatly appreciated

indeed.. i just got a call from my own MP assistance too.. she said the 40 days according to CIC is supposed to be 40 days from AOR date.. i didnt tried to debate this with her; other than that. no update. i would just pray the best happen to me.. my MP assistance said she would call me again in the next month or so and see if i need more assistance.

 

[Sous02]

another thing now i realized might be a delay.. i am still undertaking my parents who immigrated and became PR in 2013. they have never been on welfare neither. maybe cic was taking time to check my parents.

Yes it could be that. It could be something we can not understand. I am with you in this journey but it is in their hands now. I am just trying to be one step ahead of any complications. At some point when I am well past the time limit I also will call. But until then keeping my sanity and preventing delays are my goal.

 

[naticom]

The agent kind of "warned" me not to call back until Aug because they've already send a message to the officer two weeks ago and I should wait up to 3 months for the response.

Dial CIC today? many have dialed today and found it

 

[yijiequ]

It's not about prejudice against Muslims. It's about the "norm" and religious and cultural differences unfortunately attract scrutiny from CIC.

I am in the same boat. My wife is also Muslim but not religious. I'm a white Canadian who never had a religion. Her family is very religious. I converted because inter faith marriage is not legal in Indonesia and we wanted her family to approve and attend.

Completely understand where yijiequ is coming from.

I converted too .. but my wife never tells me once to practice. what so ever.. her parents were so happy that we married and also attended our wedding. her dad used to live in Vienna, speaks German fluently. their parents to me is very westerner. I just did Shhaida to marry her.. that's about it... thank you Imabule!!!!

also, Tunisia seems not Muslim at all. they have our kinda of fastfood like fatburger. people dont go to pray 4 times a day.. i bought wine bottles at the grocery stores. muslim people told me what's a good local winery bottle i should get.. totally shock. like their restaurants serve liquors.. i think that's not allowed in many muslim countries.. i even found pork and pepperonis at Carefour, a grocery store.

 

[ImABule]

Your bigger concerns are the timelines in your relationship. Being Muslim is the least of your challenges. I know that others disagree with me but I would be careful how many times I enquired. You have Red Flags already in your application.

So.. You are saying that inquiring about your application creates problems?

Isn't that what we are doing when we order GCMS notes as well?

 

[badpusacat]

Just a question, those who are bothered with processing times and even seek the help of MP like yijiequ, are you way over the standard processing time as per CIC? If yes, for how long?

 

[ImABule]

I converted too .. but my wife never tells me once to practice. what so ever.. her parents were so happy that we married and also attended our wedding. her dad used to live in Vienna, speaks German fluently. their parents to me is very westerner. I just did Shhaida to marry her.. that's about it... thank you Imabule!!!!

also, Tunisia seems not Muslim at all. they have our kinda of fastfood like fatburger. people dont go to pray 4 times a day.. i bought wine bottles at the grocery stores. muslim people told me what's a good local winery bottle i should get.. totally shock. like their restaurants serve liquors.. i think that's not allowed in many muslim countries.. i even found pork and pepperonis at Carefour, a grocery store.

Indonesia also has liquor and pork in the Carefour, but the country is deeply religious. I too said the Shahada to be able to marry my wife, although the religious office did tell me I had to get cut to be considered a Muslim and be able to marry my wife.

And I wouldn't worry about inquiring about your application. I called them 1 day after the listed time to ask about my SA. The call centre agent sounded surprised when she looked into my file saying "it's only been 38 days and the listed time is 37 days", but she was otherwise very polite and informed me a positive decision had been made and to expect correspondence within a week.

My file has been at SVO for under 2 months and I've ordered GCMS twice already and will order again June 2 when the deadline for my second notes passes. I have also visited my MP office to ask why NDVO is processing applications so fast when the listed time is longer than my wife's country. The MP is inquiring about my file. I have also sent SVO more evidence of my relationship.

I think being active in wanting to know where your application stands shows that it means something to you. I am not worried about them "red flagging" me because I order new notes the day I get them or because when a posted timeline passes I call to ask or because I send more documentation willfully without them asking for it.

 

[yijiequ]

The process at the religious office in Tunis seems very easy. pretty sure people work there now this is just another hoop to jump thru. I was asked what i know about Islam.. i told them when I was a kid in China.. good food from Muslim people.. like lamb stuff. anyway bro.. i just messaged you privately.
Tunisia itself seems to be secular. i dont even see a lot of girls wearing Hijab. they look more like Italians and French to me. lol.. i even visited a Catholic Cathedral there for the 1st time. I saw a few Jews there too. good experience of visiting there. Chinaman like myself? not so many.. lol.

ahh.. the tricky part is i dont even know where the delay is.. no document request from CPC-m.. i would be ok if it's delay at Paris.. but delay at CPC-M.. i feel like i did something on my end incorrectly.

Inshallah everything gonna go smoothly.

Indonesia also has liquor and pork in the Carefour, but the country is deeply religious. I too said the Shahada to be able to marry my wife, although the religious office did tell me I had to get cut to be considered a Muslim and be able to marry my wife.

And I wouldn't worry about inquiring about your application. I called them 1 day after the listed time to ask about my SA. The call centre agent sounded surprised when she looked into my file saying "it's only been 38 days and the listed time is 37 days", but she was otherwise very polite and informed me a positive decision had been made and to expect correspondence within a week.

My file has been at SVO for under 2 months and I've ordered GCMS twice already and will order again June 2 when the deadline for my second notes passes. I have also visited my MP office to ask why NDVO is processing applications so fast when the listed time is longer than my wife's country. The MP is inquiring about my file. I have also sent SVO more evidence of my relationship.

I think being active in wanting to know where your application stands shows that it means something to you. I am not worried about them "red flagging" me because I order new notes the day I get them or because when a posted timeline passes I call to ask or because I send more documentation willfully without them asking for it.

 

[Sous02]

So.. You are saying that inquiring about your application creates problems?

Isn't that what we are doing when we order GCMS notes as well?

This is my opinion based on being on the receiving end of MP inquiries and freedom of Information requests. First what is the up side? We learn what may or may not be happening with our application. It changes nothing.
On the down side you attract attention to your file. Yes it can be a good thing but they are humans. If you only get a call agent chances are nothing happens. They look on a screen and give you an answer. If you progress past that you are taking up someone closer to your files time and attention. Once no big deal. Repeated requests hmmm I wonder. I know that those who annoyed us got the attention they desired but they also got our attention. We followed the regulations very closely. If we did not have to respond by 60 days it might be the 60th day when we did. Not always but we were human.
Because my knowing what is happening with my file only benefits my own curiosity I will wait until the timelines are well exceeded. I will call just not too often. I like to think of it as too many credit checks on your file lowers your rating. Yes I could be wrong but we are dealing with humans. I know which side I want to err on. Again this is only my opinion.

 

[ImABule]

The process at the religious office in Tunis seems very easy. pretty sure people work there now this is just another hoop to jump thru. I was asked what i know about Islam.. i told them when I was a kid in China.. good food from Muslim people.. like lamb stuff. anyway bro.. i just messaged you privately.
Tunisia itself seems to be secular. i dont even see a lot of girls wearing Hijab. they look more like Italians and French to me. lol.. i even visited a Catholic Cathedral there for the 1st time. I saw a few Jews there too. good experience of visiting there. Chinaman like myself? not so many.. lol.

ahh.. the tricky part is i dont even know where the delay is.. no document request from CPC-m.. i would be ok if it's delay at Paris.. but delay at CPC-M.. i feel like i did something on my end incorrectly.

Inshallah everything gonna go smoothly.

I'll reply soon bro