applying to sponsor pregnant commonlaw 2015

[masm]

Hi all!
This is my first post, I have been reading these forums for past few weeks and all very helpful so I decided to make my own.

First of I am a British citizen currently in england, me, my common law (Canadian citizen) and our son are planning to fly to Toronto at the end of April 2015 to be with his family and to apply for inland sponsor. I have also found out I'm pregnant very early 6-7weeks.
I am aware I will not qualify for Ohip so will have to pay for the baby's birth. Its worth it considering we have wanted to immigrate before the birth of our first son. (2013)

I have so many questions!!
Will me being pregnant affect the application process i know my medical will have to be put on hold as doctors wont x-ray pregnant women. Do i need to include that iam pregnant? Does this mean my common law is sponsoring our unborn baby? Im thinking will he/she be automatically a Canadian citizen as I will be giving birth there and my partner is a citizen already.

also will I have to include my son on the application for sponsorship i am hoping we can apply for citizenship as soon as we land as my common law was citizen at child's birth.

I am grateful to any replays.

Thankyou

 

[MilesAway]

I would strongly advise you to apply outland. You can start the process now.

Some people have done the x-ray portion with an apron, so speak to the doctor and decide if that's something you would consider.

Depending on how your husband got his citizenship, your children should also be Canadian. So you don't have to sponsor them, although they will be included on the additional family information form. You would have to apply for proof of citizenship for them.

 

[masm]

Thankyou for the reply.

Outland applications are far greater waiting times than inland, outland for London embassy is currently 31 months In total while inland is 27 months.
My common law is a naturalized citizen when he was 4/5 , does this mean my children can become Canadian citizens.

Also do I apply for the family class sponsor and child's citizenship at the same time? (Same envelope) or have to apply first and wait for proof of citizenship and send papers off that way?

As for my unborn child, would he/she be Canadian at birth once my papers are processing?

 

[MilesAway]

Outland times for UK citizens are not 31 months. Most are done in 6-10 months. There have been a few lately done in 3 months.

The reason that London is showing 29 months, is because last year or the year before, files from 2012-2013 were transferred from Islamabad, so they were already at nearly 2 years of processing when they got to London. Since London's stats must include those files, the times skyrocketed. So unless you are a Pakistani applicant who applied in 2012, you should not expect your file to take 29 months. Even Pakistani applicants now should not expect 29 months, they seem to be getting done in 18 months.

Your children should be Canadians, yes.

Proof of citizenship and sponsorship are two different things. I believe you send them to different places, and they can be done at the same time. You can send off for the citizenship certificate, and just indicate in the sponsorship application that you have done that. If you try to sponsor the child, it will cause delays while they try to figure out why you are sponsoring a Canadian, or they could even return the application.

 

[bigredmoose]

You can not just move to Canada like that. You are only allowed to visit. If the CBSA feel you are planning on staying here, they are expected to refuse you entry. Having no place or job anymore in the UK, plus with your husband saying he's moving to Canada, it's going to really look like you plan on being here permanently.

 

[masm]

Iv never seen anything regarding the 6-10 months later, iv simply looked on cic website and gone of that, im new to this all the info I know is just research from their website. I will apply outland if it such difference time wise.

Iam meaning because im pregnant will he sponsor my unborn child at the same.

We plan on visiting for 3 months,hopfully my partner gets a job and can provide for us financially we will then subMIT the application. We arent doing anything illegally. As far as I know they cant refuse application due to my status as a visitor. Iv seen forums on herewhere people have been in a simular situation and have been approved for inland applications. Some have been in canada illegally for montha years.

If I was to apply here in uk now could I still go to Canada and inform them of the move?

My mother inlaw who is a PR of Canada has contact to a Canadian MP who says its legal to enter Canada as a visitor and then to apply once partner has job and provide financial support

 

[tink23]

Iv never seen anything regarding the 6-10 months later, iv simply looked on cic website and gone of that, im new to this all the info I know is just research from their website. I will apply outland if it such difference time wise.

Iam meaning because im pregnant will he sponsor my unborn child at the same.

We plan on visiting for 3 months,hopfully my partner gets a job and can provide for us financially we will then subMIT the application. We arent doing anything illegally. As far as I know they cant refuse application due to my status as a visitor. Iv seen forums on herewhere people have been in a simular situation and have been approved for inland applications. Some have been in canada illegally for montha years.

If I was to apply here in uk now could I still go to Canada and inform them of the move?

My mother inlaw who is a PR of Canada has contact to a Canadian MP who says its legal to enter Canada as a visitor and then to apply once partner has job and provide financial support

Yes, it is perfectly legal to enter Canada as a visitor and then submit an application for PR. However, when u get to the border, it is unwise to use language while talking to CBSA such as moving, as u currently have no right to "move" to Canada until you have the proper PR status. You will be "visiting".

Applying inland would be a very bad idea as a UK citizen. Your process will be finished before a year should u apply as OUTLAND. Your process will be 2-3 years if u apply inland. Like stated before, the time for London visa office is at 31 months primarily for Pakistani applicants, since their country takes very very long to complete the required security checks. UK citizens take a fraction of that time. You can stay in Canada as a visitor duri the process of OUTLAND. You will just have to extend your visitor status, probably only once, or not at all if you're lucky and processed within 5 months.

Your unborn child won't need even mention on the forms until he/she is actually born. When they are born they will be Candian regardless of where he/she is born because your husband is a Canadian citizen.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

We plan on visiting for 3 months,hopfully my partner gets a job and can provide for us financially we will then subMIT the application.

If I was to apply here in uk now could I still go to Canada and inform them of the move?

I strongly suggest you apply outland now instead of waiting until several months after you get to Canada. You can then come to Canada as a visitor while your app is being processed. There is no benefit to waiting until you are in Canada.

It is quite safe these days to get a chest X-ray while pregnant and it is your decision

The posted processing times are not averages; that's how long it took CIC to process 80% of apps, which means that 79% are processed FASTER than that. Many are processed much faster; the actual average is around 8 months. Also, many London apps are being kept in Mississauga or sent to Ottawa for processing and both of those offices have very speedy processing times.

 

[masm]

thanks for your replies it has been so helpful.
i will apply outland when i arrive in Canada end of April 2015!. i still have few documents to sort together before we leave, letters from friend etc.
do you have a website link or quote as such regarding current UK outland application processing times?

technically i will only be visiting until my partner gets a job, which shows he can provide for us. i am more than confident he will get a job straight away.

a visitor visa for British citizens in 6 months please correct me if I am wrong. so when i apply for papers i would need to update my visitor status after the 6 months has run out and my papers are being processed?

my main concern is my medical i have read on here and other forums about doctors not accepting cover ups etc, i guess il have to find that out once i am over there. i would accept an x-ray if i was covered its just finding the doctor who will!
it makes sense to get my medical done over in Canada as waiting times for a medical at my nearest cic approved doctors is 5+weeks and quite some miles away.

 

[bigredmoose]

It's one thing to tell the CBSA you'll just be visiting, quite another for them to believe it. I wish you well, but I would not be going down the route you are.

 

[brucem]

thanks for your replies it has been so helpful.
i will apply outland when i arrive in Canada end of April 2015!. i still have few documents to sort together before we leave, letters from friend etc.
do you have a website link or quote as such regarding current UK outland application processing times?

technically i will only be visiting until my partner gets a job, which shows he can provide for us. i am more than confident he will get a job straight away.

a visitor visa for British citizens in 6 months please correct me if I am wrong. so when i apply for papers i would need to update my visitor status after the 6 months has run out and my papers are being processed?

my main concern is my medical i have read on here and other forums about doctors not accepting cover ups etc, i guess il have to find that out once i am over there. i would accept an x-ray if i was covered its just finding the doctor who will!
it makes sense to get my medical done over in Canada as waiting times for a medical at my nearest cic approved doctors is 5+weeks and quite some miles away.

There isn't a website giving you more accurate times for London unfortunately and CIC site is quite misleading as it comes without the explanation. However, if you are one of the lucky ones and your application gets kept in Mississagua for its entirety it may be completed in as little as 3-4 months. If you have a look at the London thread (see link below) they keep a spreadsheet of processing times for cases processed through London, as well as Ottawa and Mississagua as some UK apps get sent there. As I said above you may be processed in either London, Mississagua or Ottawa, it is completely up to CIC where they send it. We are also in the UK and our application is currently being processed by the Ottawa office.

Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kYJ0Xo_jHLeArkCVeicZyqIE8YLpnZqVJlFrnpmKMx0/edit?usp=sharing#gid=396125530

London Thread:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/thread-for-outland-london-uk-applications-t49436.16125.html

One you submit your application (remembering to be very careful about your wording when entering Canada as others have said!) you will have to renew your visitor visa after 6 months. This can be done online and costs $100 I believe. You can certainly do your medical in Canada and I think its often cheaper than doing it in the UK. Its a good idea to do the medical just before you submit the application as they are only valid for a year and they need to be valid when you land as a PR, although CIC can extend them but they do sometimes ask for another to be completed if it expires which is added expense.

As everyone said above just ignore the 29 months as its not an accurate estimate, but as I said if you are one of the lucky ones that gets kept in Mississagua it could be as little as 3-4 months. I think London office at the moment is averaging about 9-12 months now.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

do you have a website link or quote as such regarding current UK outland application processing times?

technically i will only be visiting until my partner gets a job, which shows he can provide for us. i am more than confident he will get a job straight away.

a visitor visa for British citizens in 6 months please correct me if I am wrong. so when i apply for papers i would need to update my visitor status after the 6 months has run out and my papers are being processed?

The spreadsheet link brucem provided above is the most accurate picture you can get.

You will be visiting until you become a PR, not until your partner gets a job.

6 months is the standard but the CBSA officer ultimately decides how long to admit you for. As the others said, do not state that you are moving to Canada or coming to live in Canada; you are visiting with your family while you wait for your sponsorship app to be processed. Pay the $1040 PR fees ahead of time and carry the receipt with you; I suggest you also have the bulk of the PR app completed and have that with you as well. You should also carry proof of funds, though they probably won't ask for it.