queencougar said:
As a professional and a scientist, I can see your viewpoint - we have to deal with the practicalities and if you stuffed up, then it is your fault. Sometimes people do find excuses and blame others when they have made a mistake.
BUT, as an applicant who is still waiting from 7th September with no reason from CIO and who believes that their application is complete and genuine, I can appreciate the disappointment and upset of others who have been rejected.
CIO are not consistent - they have rejected and sent back some applications and yet others have been given a second chance to submit the correct documents. This is where the unfairness lies and it is appropriate to commiserate with those who have been rejected, even if they have made a mistake with their app, because other people have also erred and yet they have been given a second chance.
Also, we cannot know the exact details of everyone's application and Canadajimmy's case has proved that CIO can be mistaken, so for us to judge who has been rejected fairly and who has been treated unfairly is very difficult and also presumptious.
This process is hard on people and we cannot know the background to their story and how important their application is in their lives.
I would be gentle on people, canada0801.
We reap what we sow.
Hi - I agree that we should all be compassionate towards people who have been rejected. I must be very heartbraking/devasting after such a lot of work and such a long wait.
However, as unfair as CIO can be, we have to face reality. As CanadaJimmy has proven, CIO will correct a mistake if the mistake is genuinely there's and you are prepared to invest some time in getting this through to them.
If you have neglected to include a birth certificate of the relative then you have neglected to provide sufficient proof to CIO of your relationship to the person in question. Proving that the person is a Canadian permanent resident or citizen is only part of the proof required. CIO are not very willing to accept written statements as proof, hence why affidavit is not accepted any more for work experience. CIO seem to have a "guilty until proven innocent" approach to supporting documents now.
So here is my thinking
1) If you provide all the correct documentation there should be no problem
2) UNLESS CIO make a mistake, however with enough badgering they will correct their mistake
3) If you don't provide all the correct documentation then a mistake, no matter how small, could lead to rejection. Yes, CIO have been lenient with some people. So from that point of view it is unfair. But many things in life are unfair. I think the moral of the story = don't risk it!
As Canada0801 has mentioned, rejection because of insufficient proof of relationship is not the end of the road. IMO you have two choices.
1) Write to CIO and ask if you send birth certificates and further proof would they consider placing your application back in the queue. Explain how you feel you have more than 67 points with this relationship etc.
2) Bite the bullet and re-submit a fresh application, with the birth certificates and other documents proving your relationship to the person in Canada. If your NOC cap is not yet filled then all you have suffered is merely an annoying delay. Your IELTS results are valid for 2 years and you should be able to just re-print and re-sign your forms, include the extra documents, and you are good to go.
Wayne.
