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Rishi321

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Hi everyone,

I stated work last year in june after graduating from a three year program. I got injured at work after 4.5 months and then after waiting here for some time i went to india in January and then came back in June again. I worked about 800 hours at the the job site. My contract was although from june 2012 to june 2013. I am going to start a new job soon. So, will I be eligible to apply for immigration after completing the remaining 760 hours in next 5 months or do I have to wait another 8 months to make it 1 year of experience a s at my last job i was only active for 4.5 months.

Rishi
 

iam_toby

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you will need to gain 12 ( twelve ) months of full-time ( or equivalent part-time ) work experience. Full-time is
considered 30hrs+/week. you will need twelve motnsh tho, you can't just work 15 hour days to gain the
amnount of hours,
 

Rishi321

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Well, that is what i am confused about, when i will get the letter from the employer, does it has to say about how many hours per week i worked or total hours over the length of 1 year. At my new job i will be able to complete the one year requirement of 1560 hours in the next four months as i already have more than half of it from the last job. In that case will i be eligible to apply after 4 months or after 8 months
 

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Rishi321 said:
Well, that is what i am confused about, when i will get the letter from the employer, does it has to say about how many hours per week i worked or total hours over the length of 1 year. At my new job i will be able to complete the one year requirement of 1560 hours in the next four months as i already have more than half of it from the last job. In that case will i be eligible to apply after 4 months or after 8 months
You need:
- a minimum of 12 months, NOT 11 months or 10 months
- a minimum of 1560 hours

The letter from your employer has to state the duration of your employment ( from date - to date ) and the number of hours.
Same for your new employer.
 

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Rishi321 said:
Well, that is what i am confused about, when i will get the letter from the employer, does it has to say about how many hours per week i worked or total hours over the length of 1 year. At my new job i will be able to complete the one year requirement of 1560 hours in the next four months as i already have more than half of it from the last job. In that case will i be eligible to apply after 4 months or after 8 months
If you search through the forum for sample reference letters you will find that most say something along the lines of "John Doe has been a full time employee with XXXXXX Inc. from DATE to DATE [12 months or more]. In the position of XXXXXXX he worked 35 hrs per week and performed the following duties .... etc." I just threw something together there for the sake of giving an example. Again, if you search the forum you will find some good samples. And the point being, your reference letter should give dates, hours, type of employment, company, position and duties info. Should also be on letter head with supervisor or HR contact info included.

The work you perform does not need to be continues, but you do have to have 12 months [52 weeks] and 1,560 hrs of full time skilled employment that is paid. "You must have at least 12 months of full-time, or an equal amount in part-time, skilled work experience. Full-time work means at least 30 hours of paid work per week." http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/apply-who.asp#skilled However, that said, you should give yourself a buffer ... because you had a gap and VO will most surely be calculating your timeline carefully. CIC also uses your income [T4 and NOA] to calculate hours you worked, so if you were not paid, then you did not work. Thus, you will have to wait until you have the 12 months. So, if you have 6 months before you got hurt .... a break .... you will then need another 6 months of paid work.
 

Rishi321

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Thanks guys,
You seem to have very good knowledge about cec and that tempts me to ask another question; is it ok to work through an agency for some company and the agency deducts imcome tax, cpp and ei.
 

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AOR Received.
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Rishi321 said:
Thanks guys,
You seem to have very good knowledge about cec and that tempts me to ask another question; is it ok to work through an agency for some company and the agency deducts imcome tax, cpp and ei.
I dont see the harm in it, except that CIC would probably require reference letters from both the agency and the client, which may present some challenges. Clients normally dont issue these to temps, and the agency letter probably wont be enough. You might want to do some additional research on this and make sure that you are able to get everything required for your app. Obviously, considering you have an open work permit that allows you to work anywhere.
 

Rishi321

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Thanks again, i happen to speak to an immigration consultant just half an hour ago and he said the same thing as you did, but he said since there is a gap between switching employers, you have to start all over again, but on the cic website under cec it does not say anything like that. What is your opinion on this?
 

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Rishi321 said:
Thanks again, i happen to speak to an immigration consultant just half an hour ago and he said the same thing as you did, but he said since there is a gap between switching employers, you have to start all over again, but on the cic website under cec it does not say anything like that. What is your opinion on this?
I dont recall ever seeing anything that says you are required to have continues employment or to work for one employer specifically. Maybe one of the seniors will correct me, but I dont see the merit in what he told you. "Have at least 12 months of full-time (or an equal amount in part-time) skilled work experience in Canada in the THREE YEARS before you apply" No particular restrictions imposed. Quite to the contrary, the statements they have put up, with exception of some, are vague for that reason that its open to interpretation. The "THREE YEARS" term by default implies that experience can be obtained over time. Maybe he meant to imply that it would be more presentable if you work for one employer longer, considering the gap you have.

As long as its skilled NOC 0, A or B and in the length required, under proper authorization....you should be good to go! When seeking council of either consultants or lawyers, you should always take it with a grain of salt. Most (not all) care for their business, not your file. For one, not all of them are up to speed or creative when it gets down to the little details. I've been on here for quite some time now and have actually seen consultants/lawyers screw up on multiple occasions. CIC has simplified the process so that you do not have to use these services. I truly believe that you yourself, with the help of this forum, can file on your own. So many success stories and nice people willing to help.

Anyways, I dont believe his statement is in line with CIC policies and regulations....thus of no help to you. But again, maybe seniors can provide more info and correct me if I'm wrong.
 

Rishi321

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Thanks again, you are right as I have also realised that the consultants not always helpful, i just read the cec manual Op25 (the old one) and Op 6(the new one), and it does not say at all that it has to be continous, it just has to be in the last 36 months when the application is filed. Do u think presentability although nothing mentioned anywhere can have a negative effect on the application and my health situation since i used my health card quite extensively during recovery periiod as i was reffered to multiple specialists but no major problem at the end and now i am fine. Do they check withe heath department or just the medical evaluation is good enough(which i will pass quite easily i believe).

Thanks again
rishi
 

CEC2013

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Doc's Request.
26 NOV 2013 (RPRF)
AOR Received.
14 MAR 2013
IELTS Request
Sent with application.
Med's Request
27 NOV 2013
Med's Done....
29 NOV 2013
Interview........
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Passport Req..
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Rishi321 said:
Thanks again, you are right as I have also realised that the consultants not always helpful, i just read the cec manual that is 22 pages long, and it does not say at all that it has to be continous, it just has to be in the last 24 months when the application is filed. Do u think presentability although nothing mentioned anywhere can have a negative effect on the application and my health situation since i used my health card quite extensively during recovery periiod as i was reffered to multiple specialists but no major problem at the end and now i am fine. Do they check withe heath department or just the medical evaluation is good enough(which i will pass quite easily i believe).
I dont think presentability factors in at all.....however, as I mentioned earlier, since you have a gap, the VO will probably calculate your timeline very carefully. Therefore, I would give yourself a buffer just to be sure you have enough weeks and hours. Better safe than sorry.

As for the medical, unless its something you declare or is discovered during exams, I dont think it will factor in. BUUUUT, if you have a significant health problem and you dont declare, well that may be a problem. This is not simple to answer as it depends on what happened. I saw someone on here who had instructions when entering Canada to report to a health center for inspection due to some condition. Like I said, unless its major, declared or discovered in the exams, I dont think it will be a problem.

I spoke with CRA not too long ago and they told me that even though they are all gov agencies, they do not share info. This is why you have to send T4 and NOA, and for other things you have to declare on your own or test for it. CRA is only income, so imagine sharing medical records....highly unlikely as they would require consent from you. Again, this is just my opinion.