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Stuck In Quebec

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Jul 17, 2012
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Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
complicated
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-08-2012
Doc's Request.
17-04-2013
AOR Received.
08-11-2012
IELTS Request
Sent with application
File Transfer...
08-11-2012
Med's Request
23-11-2013
Med's Done....
29-11-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
06-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
16-01-3014
LANDED..........
21-01-2014
informer2000 said:
Not yet. I just emailed them to ask for confirmation today. I only got the usual auto-response message when I sent the email.
As mentioned by many members, to get a prompt reply from them in matters like these, have a catchy subject line. I used " Conformation needed regarding receipt of urgent documents update asked for File ***, UCI***. Give as many pointers as possible to identify you such as Date of Birth, PA, reason for enquiry. They will not go extra mile to identify you and give info. Make their lives easy and they return the favor (atleast they have been nice to me in this regard), specially if you have a common name. I have been doing this since 3 years and get a response next day.

This format is the one I use for directing inquiries to them:-

I am *****, UCI- ***, DOB ****. I wanted to confirm the receipt and updating of the documents I updated a for my application for permanent residency in Canada.

The following are my identifiers:-

1. Status: Principal Applicant
2. Reason: Query regarding receiving of the supplemental documents for FSW file.
3. Name: LAST NAME, First name.
4. Date of Birth:DD/MM/YYYY
5. Enquiry regarding updating of documents for application made to PhD stream under FSW category. File No. *****
6. Client ID no. ******

Hope it helps. Its not too late. I am sure they received it via email. Else you have the email history as proof and can argue your case if forbidden happens. You will be ok. Just cover all bases.
 

Stuck In Quebec

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Jul 17, 2012
223
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Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
complicated
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-08-2012
Doc's Request.
17-04-2013
AOR Received.
08-11-2012
IELTS Request
Sent with application
File Transfer...
08-11-2012
Med's Request
23-11-2013
Med's Done....
29-11-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
06-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
16-01-3014
LANDED..........
21-01-2014
S_Govind said:
Folks,

I just received my GCMS notes that I was ranting about a bit yesterday. I sent in another request and it apparently took them less than a day to process this. However, there is nothing to cheer about. I suffer the same fate as StuckatQuebec. My file was analyzed by SL01732 who decided that I do not meet R75(2). My Ta duties were accepted and not my RA since I was missing the word assist in the former and not in the latter.

This was done just a day after they received my proof of funds. The good thing is that they now have my updated reference letter, contracts et al on file and I have a due date of the 27th of August (Exactly a year since my file reached CIO).
Just hang in, I take it as a positive thing as we have a pre warning and updated everything and covered all bases. What if we had not known and final letter came. Atleast we got a chance and a valid point.

I too was angry for a day or so, then started counting my blessings. Glass half empty, glass half full, it's we who decide it. Atleast you are not a Quebec applicant.

I am sure you will be ok. Just hang in and leave no stone unturned. Cover all tracks.
 

aidina

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kg.jadu said:
aidina,

Congratulations! That's such a good news! I was actually thinking about you today, wondering how the things were and why you didn't post lately. Glad that your struggle is almost over now.
Thanks :).
 

aidina

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Nov 21, 2012
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Stuck In Quebec said:
Congrats!!! You are a real fighter and an example, NER to PER, no additional requests. A hell lot delayed too. But all is well that ends well. Am glad its almost over for you.

Relax now and enjoy. :D
Thanks.
 

S_Govind

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Apr 15, 2013
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Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-08-2012
Doc's Request.
15-04-2013
Nomination.....
01-11-2012 (Date of PER)
IELTS Request
Enclosed with the application
File Transfer...
01-11-2012 from CIO to CPP-O
Med's Request
23-11-2013 (RPRF requested on 22-11-2013)
Med's Done....
26-11-2013 Med's Received:06-01-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
06-01-2014, Decision Made:09-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
06-01-2014
LANDED..........
21-01-2014
I have decided to update my reference letter again with a substantial number of duties as I feel a mere copying and pasting of duties will certainly carry less weight. This time it has a mix of paraphrasing and expansion of some of the duties. I know this is self serving and feel really stupid to be doing this but atleast it gives me a reason to live !!.

Could any one of you go through this version and let me know your thoughts. I would email them this version sometime late this afternoon. Thanks !!


Citizenship and Immigration Canada Date: 7/2/2013
(PhDStream-Federal Skilled Worker Program)
Case Processing Pilot-Ottawa
219 Laurier Avenue West
7th floor, Section B
Ottawa, K1A1L1,Canada

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

This is in continuation to my earlier letter in support of the permanent residence application of Mr. xxxxxxx who is currently a PhD student with the Department of Chemical Engineering and Applied Chemistry, University of Toronto and is co-supervised by me and Prof. xxxxxxxxxxx. This letter expands on his job duties and responsibilities in this department as a Research and Teaching Assistant.
Starting September 1st 2007 till current date, xxxxx has also been working as a Graduate Research Assistant (NOC Code: 4012) in the department of Chemical Engineering and Applied Chemistry. As a graduate research assistant, he currently assists me in research activities concerning the biologically mediated recovery of valuable base metals from an Iron Sulfide tailing . He previously assisted me in research activities concerning Metabolic Modeling for in-situ Uranium Bioremediation. In the first year, 50% of his time was spent in the course work, and rest, 20 hours/week, towards the research assistantship. Since May 2008, he has been working as a fulltime research assistant contributing 40 hours/week. As a research assistant, his duties include:


a. Conducting literature reviews to gather information regarding previous studies on Biologically mediated leaching
b. Conducting laboratory experiments. Laboratory experiments herein refer to bioleaching experiments to monitor the recovery of Nickel from an iron sulphide tailing
c. Compiling and analyzing research results from the above experiment(s) for publication in scholarly articles. Specifically, post-processing of results by applying techniques such as SEM (Scanning electron Microscopy),XRD (X-ray Diffraction), ICP (Inductively Coupled Plasma Atomic Spectroscopy)
d. Assisting his supervisor(s) (Prof. xxxx and Prof. yyyy) in the analysis of results from experiments
e. Assisting his supervisor(s) (Prof. xxxxand Prof. yyyy) in the preparation of articles for scholarly publication and conference proceedings
f. Training summer research students on research methodologies
g. Assisting his supervisors with writing grant reports

The details on the work hours and the salary from the research assistantship positions are provided in the following table.

From To Term Hours Salary (Annual)
Sep 2007 Dec 2007 Fall 2007 20 / week $20,400
Jan 2008 Apr 2008 Spring 2008 20 / week $20,400
May 2008 Aug 2008 Summer 2008 40 / week $20,400
Sep 2008 Dec 2008 Fall 2008 40 / week $20,400
Jan 2009 Apr 2009 Spring 2009 40 /week $21,600
May 2009 Aug 2009 Summer 2009 40 /week $21,600
May 2010 Dec 2010 Fall 2010 40 /week $30,000
Jan 2011 Apr 2011 Spring 2011 40 /week $30,000
May 2011 Aug 2011 Summer 2011 40 /week $21,600
Sept 2011 Dec 2011 Fall 2011 40 /week $21,600
Jan 2012 Apr 2012 Spring 2012 40/week $21,600
May2012 Aug2012 Summer2012 40 /week $21,600
Sep2012 Dec 2012 Fall 2012 40 /week $21,600
Jan 2013 Apr 2013 Spring 2013 40/week $21,600


Since 1st January 2008, xxxxxx has undertaken several teaching assistantships (NOC Code: 4012). He was appointed as a TA for the following courses
(i) APS104- Introduction to Materials and Chemistry (Jan-April 2008, Jan-April 2009)
(ii) ESC202-Engineering Science Praxis (Jan-April 2008, Jan-April 2009)
(iii) CHE 332-Applied Reaction Kinetics (Sep-Dec 2011, Sep-Dec 2012)
(iv) CHE 412-Advanced Reactor Design (Jan-April 2013)

As a teaching assistant, his duties included
a. conducting tutorials and quizzes
b. supervising laboratory sessions
c. Assisting faculty members in the preparation and administration of exams; and in grading exams, term papers and laboratory reports.
d. Assisting faculty members in leading discussion groups and tutorial sections


I believe that xxxxxxxx is a valuable member of Canadian society, and I support his application for Permanent Resident status in Canada. If you need any additional information, I would be glad to answer your questions.

Sincerely,
 

polestar707

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Nov 20, 2012
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BAD NEWS TO ME!

My application is rejected. :mad: :'(

The email syas:
" have now completed the assessment of your application for a permanent resident visa as a skilled worker. I have determined that you do not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.



Subsection 75(2) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations states that a foreign national is a skilled worker if:

a) within ten years preceding the date of their application for a permanent resident visa, they have at least one year of continuous full-time employment (37.5 hours/week) experience, or the equivalent in continuous part-time employment in one or more occupations, other than a restricted occupation, that are listed in Skill Type 0 Management Occupations or Skill Levels A or B of the National Occupational Classification matrix;

b) during that period of employment they performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation as set out in the occupational descriptions of the National Occupational Classification; and

c) during that period of employment they performed a substantial number of the main duties of the occupation as set out in the occupational descriptions of the National Occupational Classification, including all of the essential duties.



I am not satisfied that you meet these requirements. Your period of work experience as an Electronics Engineer (NOC 2133) at **** does not meet the requirements of b) and c) above as the duties listed in the letter of reference do not match the actions of the lead statement and a substantial number of the main duties under the NOC code selected. Your work contracts do not provide any further detail as to your job responsibilities or duties. As such, you failed to demonstrate that your periods of work experience met the requirements listed above.
"
I am very frustrated. In my opinion my word experience just fit the the main duties under the NOC code selected. The description in my job contract is almost the same as that under the NOC.

Is there any way to appeal? Maybe I should hire a lawyer? I just couldn't believe they use this excuse to refuse me!
 

kuzey

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Oct 24, 2012
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Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-05-2012
Doc's Request.
06-02-2013
Med's Request
14-06-2013
Med's Done....
20-06-2013
Passport Req..
06-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
19-08-2013
LANDED..........
29-08-2013
This is perfect in my opinion and do not be afraid to update the letter several times :)

S_Govind said:
I have decided to update my reference letter again with a substantial number of duties as I feel a mere copying and pasting of duties will certainly carry less weight. This time it has a mix of paraphrasing and expansion of some of the duties. I know this is self serving and feel really stupid to be doing this but atleast it gives me a reason to live !!.

Could any one of you go through this version and let me know your thoughts. I would email them this version sometime late this afternoon. Thanks !!


Citizenship and Immigration Canada Date: 7/2/2013
(PhDStream-Federal Skilled Worker Program)
Case Processing Pilot-Ottawa
219 Laurier Avenue West
7th floor, Section B
Ottawa, K1A1L1,Canada

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

This is in continuation to my earlier letter in support of the permanent residence application of Mr. xxxxxxx who is currently a PhD student with the Department of Chemical Engineering and Applied Chemistry, University of Toronto and is co-supervised by me and Prof. xxxxxxxxxxx. This letter expands on his job duties and responsibilities in this department as a Research and Teaching Assistant.
Starting September 1st 2007 till current date, xxxxx has also been working as a Graduate Research Assistant (NOC Code: 4012) in the department of Chemical Engineering and Applied Chemistry. As a graduate research assistant, he currently assists me in research activities concerning the biologically mediated recovery of valuable base metals from an Iron Sulfide tailing . He previously assisted me in research activities concerning Metabolic Modeling for in-situ Uranium Bioremediation. In the first year, 50% of his time was spent in the course work, and rest, 20 hours/week, towards the research assistantship. Since May 2008, he has been working as a fulltime research assistant contributing 40 hours/week. As a research assistant, his duties include:


a. Conducting literature reviews to gather information regarding previous studies on Biologically mediated leaching
b. Conducting laboratory experiments. Laboratory experiments herein refer to bioleaching experiments to monitor the recovery of Nickel from an iron sulphide tailing
c. Compiling and analyzing research results from the above experiment(s) for publication in scholarly articles. Specifically, post-processing of results by applying techniques such as SEM (Scanning electron Microscopy),XRD (X-ray Diffraction), ICP (Inductively Coupled Plasma Atomic Spectroscopy)
d. Assisting his supervisor(s) (Prof. xxxx and Prof. yyyy) in the analysis of results from experiments
e. Assisting his supervisor(s) (Prof. xxxxand Prof. yyyy) in the preparation of articles for scholarly publication and conference proceedings
f. Training summer research students on research methodologies
g. Assisting his supervisors with writing grant reports

The details on the work hours and the salary from the research assistantship positions are provided in the following table.

From To Term Hours Salary (Annual)
Sep 2007 Dec 2007 Fall 2007 20 / week $20,400
Jan 2008 Apr 2008 Spring 2008 20 / week $20,400
May 2008 Aug 2008 Summer 2008 40 / week $20,400
Sep 2008 Dec 2008 Fall 2008 40 / week $20,400
Jan 2009 Apr 2009 Spring 2009 40 /week $21,600
May 2009 Aug 2009 Summer 2009 40 /week $21,600
May 2010 Dec 2010 Fall 2010 40 /week $30,000
Jan 2011 Apr 2011 Spring 2011 40 /week $30,000
May 2011 Aug 2011 Summer 2011 40 /week $21,600
Sept 2011 Dec 2011 Fall 2011 40 /week $21,600
Jan 2012 Apr 2012 Spring 2012 40/week $21,600
May2012 Aug2012 Summer2012 40 /week $21,600
Sep2012 Dec 2012 Fall 2012 40 /week $21,600
Jan 2013 Apr 2013 Spring 2013 40/week $21,600


Since 1st January 2008, xxxxxx has undertaken several teaching assistantships (NOC Code: 4012). He was appointed as a TA for the following courses
(i) APS104- Introduction to Materials and Chemistry (Jan-April 2008, Jan-April 2009)
(ii) ESC202-Engineering Science Praxis (Jan-April 2008, Jan-April 2009)
(iii) CHE 332-Applied Reaction Kinetics (Sep-Dec 2011, Sep-Dec 2012)
(iv) CHE 412-Advanced Reactor Design (Jan-April 2013)

As a teaching assistant, his duties included
a. conducting tutorials and quizzes
b. supervising laboratory sessions
c. Assisting faculty members in the preparation and administration of exams; and in grading exams, term papers and laboratory reports.
d. Assisting faculty members in leading discussion groups and tutorial sections


I believe that xxxxxxxx is a valuable member of Canadian society, and I support his application for Permanent Resident status in Canada. If you need any additional information, I would be glad to answer your questions.

Sincerely,
 

kuzey

Star Member
Oct 24, 2012
79
9
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-05-2012
Doc's Request.
06-02-2013
Med's Request
14-06-2013
Med's Done....
20-06-2013
Passport Req..
06-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
19-08-2013
LANDED..........
29-08-2013
Sorry to hear that. Please share your letter with the corresponding NOC code with us


polestar707 said:
BAD NEWS TO ME!

My application is rejected. :mad: :'(

The email syas:
" have now completed the assessment of your application for a permanent resident visa as a skilled worker. I have determined that you do not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.



Subsection 75(2) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations states that a foreign national is a skilled worker if:

a) within ten years preceding the date of their application for a permanent resident visa, they have at least one year of continuous full-time employment (37.5 hours/week) experience, or the equivalent in continuous part-time employment in one or more occupations, other than a restricted occupation, that are listed in Skill Type 0 Management Occupations or Skill Levels A or B of the National Occupational Classification matrix;

b) during that period of employment they performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation as set out in the occupational descriptions of the National Occupational Classification; and

c) during that period of employment they performed a substantial number of the main duties of the occupation as set out in the occupational descriptions of the National Occupational Classification, including all of the essential duties.



I am not satisfied that you meet these requirements. Your period of work experience as an Electronics Engineer (NOC 2133) at **** does not meet the requirements of b) and c) above as the duties listed in the letter of reference do not match the actions of the lead statement and a substantial number of the main duties under the NOC code selected. Your work contracts do not provide any further detail as to your job responsibilities or duties. As such, you failed to demonstrate that your periods of work experience met the requirements listed above.
"
I am very frustrated. In my opinion my word experience just fit the the main duties under the NOC code selected. The description in my job contract is almost the same as that under the NOC.

Is there any way to appeal? Maybe I should hire a lawyer? I just couldn't believe they use this excuse to refuse me!
 

polestar707

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Nov 20, 2012
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kuzey said:
Sorry to hear that. Please share your letter with the corresponding NOC code with us
I did not submit a reference letter. I submitted a translated job contract as I worked for three years as an IC designer.
 

S_Govind

Hero Member
Apr 15, 2013
295
35
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-08-2012
Doc's Request.
15-04-2013
Nomination.....
01-11-2012 (Date of PER)
IELTS Request
Enclosed with the application
File Transfer...
01-11-2012 from CIO to CPP-O
Med's Request
23-11-2013 (RPRF requested on 22-11-2013)
Med's Done....
26-11-2013 Med's Received:06-01-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
06-01-2014, Decision Made:09-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
06-01-2014
LANDED..........
21-01-2014
polestar707 said:
BAD NEWS TO ME!

My application is rejected. :mad: :'(
Sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, there is no way to appeal unless CPP-O made a mistake in fact and not in law. That is to say, if your reference letter had the key words as in the lead statement and the VO missed that, then you can point that out. Order GCMS before you start appealing.

I see that you submitted your application in November 2012. What was the date of your PER? Now, that is some fast processing from CPP-O !!
 

polestar707

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Nov 20, 2012
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S_Govind said:
Sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, there is no way to appeal unless CPP-O made a mistake in fact and not in law. That is to say, if your reference letter had the key words as in the lead statement and the VO missed that, then you can point that out. Order GCMS before you start appealing.

I see that you submitted your application in November 2012. What was the date of your PER? Now, that is some fast processing from CPP-O !!
What is GCMS please?

I got my PER in March 2013.
 

S_Govind

Hero Member
Apr 15, 2013
295
35
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-08-2012
Doc's Request.
15-04-2013
Nomination.....
01-11-2012 (Date of PER)
IELTS Request
Enclosed with the application
File Transfer...
01-11-2012 from CIO to CPP-O
Med's Request
23-11-2013 (RPRF requested on 22-11-2013)
Med's Done....
26-11-2013 Med's Received:06-01-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
06-01-2014, Decision Made:09-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
06-01-2014
LANDED..........
21-01-2014
polestar707 said:
What is GCMS please?

I got my PER in March 2013.
Global Case Management System. A database used by CIC to store information related to immigration and Visa processing.

https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/

You can submit your request online (follow the above link) and can get an electronic version of your case files fro free under the privacy act.

They would not return those documents. It is the official property of the Government of Canada now
 

sarsanballa

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Mar 6, 2012
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Ontario, Canada
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
polestar707 said:
Will they return my application package to me? There are lots of documents I needed.
Sorry to hear your rejection. :(. and they shall not return your application materials unless you had submitted some original documents initially, in which case, you can ask for the return of your original documents only.
 

polestar707

Full Member
Nov 20, 2012
45
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S_Govind said:
Global Case Management System. A database used by CIC to store information related to immigration and Visa processing.

https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/

You can submit your request online (follow the above link) and can get an electronic version of your case files fro free under the privacy act.

They would not return those documents. It is the official property of the Government of Canada now

Thank you.
Another bad news if they don't return, because it cost me a lot of money to get these docs notorized and sent them to me from my home country.