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Bibsrio

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Mar 21, 2015
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edilsonjr said:
Hi Bianca, I am in the same situation - also from Brazil, AOR March 29 as well

Is your BG in progress ?
Have you ordered GCMS notes?
Hi Edilson!
Yeap. BG in progress.
I haven´t ordered GCMS notes.
I just called CIC and the agent could not tell me much, except that my VO is Ottawa and that I have to wait.
Any prediction from Ottawa Office?
Thanks. Good luck!
 

babuarun

Member
May 31, 2016
13
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Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
24-03-2016
Passport Req..
Waiting
Thanks coolhyd, I called CIC now @ 1 613 944 4000. I was lucky to get a very soft spoken representative. My application has passed the Security, medicals and eligibility review and waiting for final review by the Visa official, but the representative could not give a time frame. Feeling a lot relieved. Thank you all.

My Timeline
AOR - March 24th , FSW Inland
Medicals passed in 16 days
RPRF fee request 21st July
BG in progress 14th August
Waiting for PPR
 

mubzali

Hero Member
Jun 26, 2015
245
9
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
22-03-2016
Passport Req..
02-02-2017
VISA ISSUED...
03-02-2017
Bibsrio said:
Hi Edilson!
Yeap. BG in progress.
I haven´t ordered GCMS notes.
I just called CIC and the agent could not tell me much, except that my VO is Ottawa and that I have to wait.
Any prediction from Ottawa Office?
Thanks. Good luck!
Nope, you can't predict much here at this point now. My situation is the same as yours, I called the Ottawa office twice over the past week, just to see if the response I got differed and both times got the same response: my application is complete, eligibility is passed, don't need to submit anything else, that Ottawa was still doing the BG checks and to just wait. The second time round the lady seemed more amiable (not that the first time I had a bad experience), so I asked her how long it normally takes for the BG check. Obviously she didn't know that answer to that but did tell me to give a call back if I didn't see any movement on my application by next month.
 

newcecapplicant

Star Member
Nov 11, 2013
180
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Folks, for any of you whose applications have been transferred to the Outland or as in mt case NDVO (New Delhi) could you tell me how long they respond in?

I've written to them only yesterday after my file passed the 6 month timeline.

regards! :)
 

mubzali

Hero Member
Jun 26, 2015
245
9
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
22-03-2016
Passport Req..
02-02-2017
VISA ISSUED...
03-02-2017
babuarun said:
Thanks coolhyd, I called CIC now @ 1 613 944 4000. I was lucky to get a very soft spoken representative. My application has passed the Security, medicals and eligibility review and waiting for final review by the Visa official, but the representative could not give a time frame. Feeling a lot relieved. Thank you all.

My Timeline
AOR - March 24th , FSW Inland
Medicals passed in 16 days
RPRF fee request 21st July
BG in progress 14th August
Waiting for PPR
CIC told you your security and background check has passed? has your BG Check changed on your CIC profile online then?
 

elmas

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Jan 28, 2016
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My BG was in progress for about 4 weeks, then it went back to not needed for a day and then into IP again and has stayed like that for about 5 weeks. Is that normal or OK?
 

coolhyd

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Jun 1, 2012
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elmas said:
My BG was in progress for about 4 weeks, then it went back to not needed for a day and then into IP again and has stayed like that for about 5 weeks. Is that normal or OK?
That's normal. Don't worry if there is nothing wrong. CIC takes it own time in completing the background checks with the help of different agencies.
 

elmas

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Jan 28, 2016
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coolhyd said:
That's normal. Don't worry if there is nothing wrong. CIC takes it own time in completing the background checks with the help of different agencies.
Thanks for the reply. Are those Canadian agencies? And how long does it typically take to get PPR after BG goes into progress for the second time? I'm hitting 7 months next week.

My ex husband was a military officer but that shouldn't complicate anything I believe as that was years ago and now I'm married to someone else.

Right now I'm in Canada on a visitor's visa and I'm thinking whether it could be that CIC cannot approve an application when the applicant is in Canada as a visitor until the visitor leaves Canada. Could that be? It would be funny if I get PPR right after leaving Canada.
 

mubzali

Hero Member
Jun 26, 2015
245
9
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
22-03-2016
Passport Req..
02-02-2017
VISA ISSUED...
03-02-2017
elmas said:
Thanks for the reply. Are those Canadian agencies? And how long does it typically take to get PPR after BG goes into progress for the second time? I'm hitting 7 months next week.

My ex husband was a military officer but that shouldn't complicate anything I believe as that was years ago and now I'm married to someone else.

Right now I'm in Canada on a visitor's visa and I'm thinking whether it could be that CIC cannot approve an application when the applicant is in Canada as a visitor until the visitor leaves Canada. Could that be? It would be funny if I get PPR right after leaving Canada.
it's a combination of agencies: FBI, Interpol, RCMP, local police where you have lived etc. Military personnel can have more extensive BG checks depending on the sensitivity of the matter, but again it's not a set rule.

don't over think it. keep it simple. you being in Canada is irrelevant to the processing of your application, it will come in it's own time once they have completed the BG checks and finalized your application. normally if the BG check goes into progress a second time, you are very near to receiving the PPR. however that is not a given since it does not go into progress a second time for everyone, i think it might have something to do with the category under which you apply: for example, i applied under the FSW Outland; the BG check only goes into progress once from what I have seen, PNP and CEC applicants have had the BG Check change twice from what i noticed. again, no set trend here. have you called CIC?
 

mubzali

Hero Member
Jun 26, 2015
245
9
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
22-03-2016
Passport Req..
02-02-2017
VISA ISSUED...
03-02-2017
also, here is a post i read on one of the other threads in this forum - can't seem to find the link to it anymore, but bless the person that took the time out to write this for the rest of us. i'll try to see if i can find the link to that thread again. the below is NOT my analysis

"Here is an analysis I did, hope it helps you in understanding how an application is processed.

As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of an standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicants age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score is affected. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here.

7. At the R10 review if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually by this stage the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a re-assesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send you application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal application which is still in progress.

This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have. Don't be a parasite."
 

kalees25

Member
Mar 6, 2016
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HI SENIORS,
I am working in canada close workpermit (LMIA) SUPPORT 600 POINTS FOR PR PROCESS.Now i got confirmation of Permanent residence paper with immigrant visa, my wife and kid also got COPR and immigrant visa IN INDIA.Still now i didnot land here ,Plan to go to my home country after 2 month bring my family here. My Question i can give resignation letter for my workplace if i give resignation my employer withdraw my workpermit 'affect my PERMANENT RESIDENCE .MY PR WILL cancel or employer cant do this stage.Seniors please advise me to next step.
 

Bibsrio

Newbie
Mar 21, 2015
9
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mubzali said:
Nope, you can't predict much here at this point now. My situation is the same as yours, I called the Ottawa office twice over the past week, just to see if the response I got differed and both times got the same response: my application is complete, eligibility is passed, don't need to submit anything else, that Ottawa was still doing the BG checks and to just wait. The second time round the lady seemed more amiable (not that the first time I had a bad experience), so I asked her how long it normally takes for the BG check. Obviously she didn't know that answer to that but did tell me to give a call back if I didn't see any movement on my application by next month.
Thank you for your answer.
Could you please provide me the Ottawa office contact?
 

elmas

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Jan 28, 2016
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mubzali said:
it's a combination of agencies: FBI, Interpol, RCMP, local police where you have lived etc. Military personnel can have more extensive BG checks depending on the sensitivity of the matter, but again it's not a set rule.

don't over think it. keep it simple. you being in Canada is irrelevant to the processing of your application, it will come in it's own time once they have completed the BG checks and finalized your application. normally if the BG check goes into progress a second time, you are very near to receiving the PPR. however that is not a given since it does not go into progress a second time for everyone, i think it might have something to do with the category under which you apply: for example, i applied under the FSW Outland; the BG check only goes into progress once from what I have seen, PNP and CEC applicants have had the BG Check change twice from what i noticed. again, no set trend here. have you called CIC?
Thanks for your reply.

Yes I called CIC a couple of times but didn't hear anything satisfactory. One agent had told me a couple of weeks ago that I will probably hear back until the end of September but I didn't. Another said I should hear back before February. The others didn't even tell a date. What they all said in common is that BG is in progress.
 

babuarun

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May 31, 2016
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Job Offer........
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24-03-2016
Passport Req..
Waiting
mubzali said:
CIC told you your security and background check has passed? has your BG Check changed on your CIC profile online then?
My CIC portal still shows Eligibility & BG check in review, but the representative clearly mentioned that all 3 ( eligibility, medicals & BG security check) has been cleared and my file is waiting for final review from visa official.