AOR in April 2017 - Let's Connect Here!

[romrumrira]

what is the time range for fsw outlands to have their medicals passed

It depends, but most of them need to wait 45 days or more.

 

[mahesh_george]

Hi Mahesh here,

I got my AOR on 19th April. Please add me to the whatspp group.

 

[johnsyk]

how do you know that it will stay like this for exactly 55 days ?

As per current tracker info, no FSW seem to be passing medicals before 52 days. The range for FSW at the moment is between 50 and 60 days. It could improve or get worse in time. We dont know. Im just telling you the status as of now. I recommend you add yourself to the tracker since it helps you check with others in a similar AOR as you and compare timelines.

CEC seems to be passing in 15 to 20 days but I have seen a few CEC waiting for over 30 days too in the tracker.

 

[johnsyk]

What is the current trend of PNP applicant ? I mean how long it take to get PPR from AOR for PNP applicant ?

any idea ?

Unfortunately, PNP is the slowest as of now. Even slower than FSW.

 

[johnsyk]

Check out the February AOR thread. Its been two months for them and it will give a good idea about the progress and timelines.

 

[Pawshi]

Folks,

Please help with this confusion. I got my ITA on April 5 and would be submitting my application in May, 2017. So it would be AOR in May 2017. However, would like to check on the score change (goes down) due to change in the age? My present score is 434 and in September 2017 it would drop to 429 due to the change in the age.

Will this be any reason for disqualification? As I would submit my application by May 2017, it would be three months of processing at CIC end - June, July and August.

Please help.

Thank you!

 

[johnsyk]

Folks,

Please help with this confusion. I got my ITA on April 5 and would be submitting my application in May, 2017. So it would be AOR in May 2017. However, would like to check on the score change (goes down) due to change in the age? My present score is 434 and in September 2017 it would drop to 429 due to the change in the age.

Will this be any reason for disqualification? As I would submit my application by May 2017, it would be three months of processing at CIC end - June, July and August.

Please help.

Thank you!

Score change due to age is exempt. That's the only one that's exempt. Even if your birthday fell between the ITA and AOR - Example, your birthday fell on May 1st and you are submitting on May 15th, you are still fine. So don't worry. You are good.

 

[Pawshi]

I also read here -

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/refuse.asp

An applicant’s CRS score is automatically recorded in GCMS at the time when

their ITA is issued; and
their e-APR is submitted.

At the time of the e-APR, processing officers should compare both CRS scores to determine which of the following scenarios should be applied:

If the applicant’s CRS score at the time of the e-APR is equal to or higher than the lowest-ranked score in the round of invitations, the application will not be refused under section A11.2, as long as the applicant’s supporting documentation corroborates their claims and they continue to meet the MEC for Express Entry, including the requirements of the program to which they were invited to apply.
If the applicant’s CRS score at the time of the e-APR is lower than the lowest-ranked score in the round of invitations, the application should be refused under section A11.2 for not having maintained the qualifications that would justify the ITA.
Ministerial Instructions related to the CRS may be revised periodically. Applications must be assessed under section A11.2 according to the Ministerial Instructions in force during the round of invitations to which the candidate is invited. In other words, an applicant’s CRS score at the time of the ITA and at the time of application should be calculated based on the Ministerial Instructions in place at the time of the ITA.

So it is only till e-APR. So, after e-APR score drop is not a concern. So in my case, the e-APR would be May 2017 and score drop would be in September 2017. So not applicable.

 

[Pawshi]

I have shared this in the past and wanted to put it here for your benefit. Hope you find it useful:

The anatomy of a standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicant's age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score determined. There is an exception clause for when the age changes, it keeps the CRS score intact. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here because they are incomplete.

7. At the R10 review, if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually, by this stage, the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a reassesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send your application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal EE application, which was filed in Sep 15' and approved in April 16.

This is only for information to provide a birds eye view about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have. Don't be a parasite.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Hey John,

I have highlighted couple of points in the above thread, what's your views on the same?

Thank you!

 

[johnsyk]

Doesn't matter whats written on this forum. All that matters is that CIC has explicitly said that CRS drop due to age is exempt.

See this link.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/refuse.asp

Check the sub-heading - Birthday after ITA.

 

[johnsyk]

And the exemption is given in detail here.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/laws-policy/exempt-applicants-pr.asp

 

[KRahman]

what is the time range for fsw outlands to have their medicals passed

45-55 days on average.

 

[Human0591]

Hey guyz.
I need some help i got my police verification from india. I noticed that some pcc has the picture on it. But doesn't have my picture bit has all rest information. Is it necessary for the PCC from india to have picture on it.

 

[astralsource]

Folks,

Please help with this confusion. I got my ITA on April 5 and would be submitting my application in May, 2017. So it would be AOR in May 2017. However, would like to check on the score change (goes down) due to change in the age? My present score is 434 and in September 2017 it would drop to 429 due to the change in the age.

Will this be any reason for disqualification? As I would submit my application by May 2017, it would be three months of processing at CIC end - June, July and August.

Please help.

Thank you!

No reason for disqualification, its clearly stated by CIC.

 

[johnsyk]

Hey guyz.
I need some help i got my police verification from india. I noticed that some pcc has the picture on it. But doesn't have my picture bit has all rest information. Is it necessary for the PCC from india to have picture on it.

Not Necessary to have picture. The one give by the Indian Embassy doesn't have a picture. However when they embasssy gives the PCC, they do stamp the issuance of the PCC in the passport and that stamp page needs to be uploaded in the Passport scan. I have no idea about non embassy PCC.