Any information on Citizenship application rejection or delays due to PNP obligation?

[dpenabill]

I am pretty sure that all "extra non-required" documents people send with their applications get tossed into trash bin without reading.

That, tossing anything an applicant submits with the application "into trash bin," would be a blatant abuse in breach of fair procedure requirements. Might happen sometimes (stuff happens), but almost certainly that would be the exception, a very unusual exception.

Does not mean the additional material is considered much.

The extent to which unrequested documents or letters or other additional materials submitted with an application are "read," or in any significant way considered, is an open question, but it is almost certain that it varies considerably from applicant to applicant, depending on what it is and the context.

Sure, additional material may indeed be disregarded . . . BUT NOT discarded.

did you mention anything in a cover letter with your citizenship application about moving out of province?

What applicants elect to include with their application, in addition to what is specifically required, varies widely. Among the more common approaches, some applicants include what they call a "Letter of Explanation" (LoE).

The conventional wisdom is to go sparingly, if at all. Generally, similar to interacting with border officials during a Port-of-Entry examination, the prudent approach is to answer the questions asked, as asked, and not volunteer additional information. Generally no "explanation" is necessary, or even helpful, UNLESS the official handling the matter actually has a question, which is indicated by an actual question.

Attempts to preempt issues by submitting information or documents not requested are typically futile (which I gather is the gist of what @APPNOV2014NY was saying, noting again, however, that disregarding such material is not the same as discarding it) and if the extra material or information has any influence, the risk is that it raises questions or issues more than resolves them.

Like explaining a move out of province: generally the total stranger bureaucrats processing a citizenship application are not looking at or concerned with why an applicant moves about particular locations in Canada, at least not much beyond contextual information sufficient to verify the completeness and accuracy of the applicant's address and work history. So, whether in a "cover letter" or a LoE, volunteering information about reasons for moving from one province to another is far more likely to draw attention, potentially raise questions, than it is to settle any concern about misrepresentations the PR made in the course of becoming a PR.

There are situations in which adding a LoE makes sense. So it would be imprudent to say never do that. But again, the conventional wisdom is to go sparingly . . . meaning both not adding information or material unless there is a clear need to clarify or explain something, and to be very brief if any additional information or material is submitted.

The risk is bringing up something that would not have been an issue otherwise. While, in contrast, if it is about an issue that is likely to come up anyway, the additional material or explanation will rarely preclude non-routine processing to address that issue.

 

[APPNOV2014NY]

ok. cool. thanks for letting me know. i will be applying for my citizenship next year but constant questioning about moving out of province was raised by my friends which made me nervous.

Don't listen to such people.

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/check/art6.html

Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a permanent resident of Canada has the right:

1. to move to and take up residence in any province; and
2. to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.

 

[dpenabill]

Don't listen to such people.

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/check/art6.html

Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a permanent resident of Canada has the right:

1. to move to and take up residence in any province; and
2. to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.

Not relevant.

Discussions about issues related to moving out of the province in the context of processing a citizenship application are about cases in which a PR made (or at least is accused of making) misrepresentations in the process of becoming a PR via a provincial nomination program.

It is not about moving, as such, but about whether the timing and circumstances of the move evidence misrepresentations about requisite intentions made in qualifying for the nomination.

The mobility rights of a PR have nothing to do with consequences for making misrepresentations in becoming a PR.

It appears that prosecutions for such alleged misrepresentation are NOT common, but they do occur (typically where it is more or less obvious, looking at pre-landing conduct as well as after landing, the individual had no plans to work or settle in the nominating province). As I have noted before, most screening for this kind of misrepresentation, and resulting actions taken to interdict, are employed PRIOR to landing, to interdict and prevent such individuals from becoming PRs in the first place.

 

[APPNOV2014NY]

Received Oath Invitation. Looks like all "immigration experts" who claim that PNPs should stay in their province of nomination are wrong. Lol.

 

[johnyrose]

Received Oath Invitation. Looks like all "immigration experts" who claim that PNPs should stay in their province of nomination are wrong. Lol.

Congrats.

No one here claims to be "immigration experts" - I see only good people trying to share what they know the best. Just because you got an oath invitation by misrepresenting yourself in your PR does not give you the right people to mock some senior experts.

Have a good day & Congrats on your oath invitation.

 

[APPNOV2014NY]

Congrats.

No one here claims to be "immigration experts" - I see only good people trying to share what they know the best. Just because you got an oath invitation by misrepresenting yourself in your PR does not give you the right people to mock some senior experts.

Have a good day & Congrats on your oath invitation.

Lol

 

[dpenabill]

Received Oath Invitation. Looks like all "immigration experts" who claim that PNPs should stay in their province of nomination are wrong. Lol.

What one might call the O.J. example?

Just to be clear, those who engage in misrepresentation in the process of obtaining PR status remain at risk for revocation of status in Canada even after taking the oath of citizenship. For life. There have been naturalized citizens whose citizenship was revoked for misrepresentation (made in their application for PR), and deportation ordered, more than fifty years after they became a citizen of Canada.

Sure, the O.J. case illustrates one can slit the throats of two innocent people and get-away-with-it, (although in the O.J. case that is relying on how, in the U.S., a not guilty verdict closes the door on any further prosecution). Not sure that means anyone should rely much on that sort of "I-got-away-with-it, so it is OK" example.

Spoiler alert: no advanced degrees in criminology necessary to conclude it is better to "not rely much" on "I-got-away-with-it, so it is OK" examples (even if there are scores and scores of such got-away-with-it examples), and actually, probably better to not rely on them at all.

Sure, as oft noted, few who engaged in misrepresentation (made in their application for PR), face prosecution while a PR, noting that IRCC focuses on screening for misrepresentation while it is processing the PR application. And among those who engaged in fraud along the way, once they become Canadian citizens even fewer encounter proceedings to revoke their citizenship. So, yeah, many do indeed get-away-with-it.

Skeletons in the closet? Nearly all of us have some (I've a few, which should be no surprise, and sure they haunt me some). How scary they are varies, of course. One of the variables is who else might have a key to the closet door, who might let the skeletons out or let this or that authority into the closet.

I make a concerted effort to steer clear of giving advice, but some advice is just common sense, fundamental: best to be honest in making an application for status in Canada, including truthfully representing one's intent where relevant, as it is when making an application for PR through a provincially sponsored program. Those who suggest otherwise, well, let's just acknowledge that not all opinions are created equal.

 

[Strunge29]

What one might call the O.J. example?

Just to be clear, those who engage in misrepresentation in the process of obtaining PR status remain at risk for revocation of status in Canada even after taking the oath of citizenship. For life. There have been naturalized citizens whose citizenship was revoked for misrepresentation (made in their application for PR), and deportation ordered, more than fifty years after they became a citizen of Canada.

Sure, the O.J. case illustrates one can slit the throats of two innocent people and get-away-with-it, (although in the O.J. case that is relying on how, in the U.S., a not guilty verdict closes the door on any further prosecution). Not sure that means anyone should rely much on that sort of "I-got-away-with-it, so it is OK" example.

Spoiler alert: no advanced degrees in criminology necessary to conclude it is better to "not rely much" on "I-got-away-with-it, so it is OK" examples (even if there are scores and scores of such got-away-with-it examples), and actually, probably better to not rely on them at all.

Sure, as oft noted, few who engaged in misrepresentation (made in their application for PR), face prosecution while a PR, noting that IRCC focuses on screening for misrepresentation while it is processing the PR application. And among those who engaged in fraud along the way, once they become Canadian citizens even fewer encounter proceedings to revoke their citizenship. So, yeah, many do indeed get-away-with-it.

Skeletons in the closet? Nearly all of us have some (I've a few, which should be no surprise, and sure they haunt me some). How scary they are varies, of course. One of the variables is who else might have a key to the closet door, who might let the skeletons out or let this or that authority into the closet.

I make a concerted effort to steer clear of giving advice, but some advice is just common sense, fundamental: best to be honest in making an application for status in Canada, including truthfully representing one's intent where relevant, as it is when making an application for PR through a provincially sponsored program. Those who suggest otherwise, well, let's just acknowledge that not all opinions are created equal.

Hello. I have been following much of what you have been contributing on this topic and I must say, your contributions appear very cogent and well-reasoned. I think I am in a situation that is similar to the 'misrepresentation' you mention in your answer. I know you have stated that you are not an expert but just offer opinions on matters like this. I will appreciate your opinion on my current situation. I applied and got nomitated for PNP by a province I lived and schooled for nearly five years. For context, I am profoundly deaf. As such, finding employment does not come as easily for me as your ordinary joe. For eight months that I obtained the PNP I searched all over the province to obtain employment. For instance I travelled to and lived in 3 cities. The first one I moved to, I had secured employment after responding to an advertisement. I moved there on my own dime because the company made it clear they would not offer me relocation. When I arrived and started my onboarding, my employer realised I have hearing loss - I am talking about 5 days here after arriving. And they let me go. Said I would be a danger to others and they couldn't afford the risk I pose with my disability. I had given up my place in another city and moved there and they fired me without even allowing me to start. I moved back to where I was before, rented a tiny room and again started looking for work. I joined a provincial professional body that regulates one of the prominent industries in the province to increase my chances of securing employment. After about 2 months, I hadn't find any, still so many barriers. And so i moved to another city in the province where that industry I have experience in was more prominent and jobs are more available. I arrived in January and could not find work until end of February. But again, within just 2 weeks I was let go due to my hearing situation. i still have the termination email in which the manager says i should go improve my communication skills and then come for the job. I still searched for work afterwards, often sending no less than 10 applications per week. I competed in a government sponsored job program for residents with disabilities - i did this twice but wasn't selected in both competitions. after nearing about 8 months I hadn't found a good job, I did menial work here and there - I have 2 masters degree but my hearing had become a barrier as employers were unwilling to look past it. after almost 8 months in this condition I competed in a job that was opened in another province. at the interview I mentioned my disability because I knew there was no chance I could emerge the top candidate. But some how they selected me, paid for my relocation and moved me there. I hadn't gotten my PR then. And now the PNP province knows. I think IRCC also knows. I want to ask the PNP province to let me voluntarily withdraw my nomination and start again. in fact, i already sent them this request. Haven't heard back. My question is, in your opinion just how screwed am I? as I noticed you mention, the term intent to settle is super ambigious, i mean what is a person supposed to do if existing companies won't hire him? I know i am in deep trouble for moving out of the province and not alerting them to withdraw my nomination. My question is, in your opinion, how bad do you see my situation? Please, don't be modest. Give me what you really think I am facing, and give it to me straight. Sorry for the lengthy question, and thank you in advance for your response.

 

[yyzstudent]

can I just say that I totally love your posts. I assume you work in the legal field. You rock!

 

[dpenabill]

. . . I think I am in a situation that is similar to the 'misrepresentation' you mention in your answer. . . .I applied and got nomitated for PNP by a province I lived and schooled for nearly five years. For context, I am profoundly deaf. As such, finding employment does not come as easily for me as your ordinary joe. For eight months that I obtained the PNP I searched all over the province to obtain employment. For instance. . .
. . . after almost 8 months in this condition I competed in a job that was opened in another province . . . they selected me, paid for my relocation and moved me there. I hadn't gotten my PR then. And now the PNP province knows. I think IRCC also knows.

I do not have much to say that is likely to help you. Sorry. Appears to be a challenging situation.

Biggest factor, probably, or so I believe, is whether you are NOW a Permanent Resident, and if you are now a PR, when in relationship to when you became a PR did you take employment that is not consistent with the program. I address more below, with emphasis that I am not at all an expert, not close, in these matters. Which I repeat, for emphasis.

In particular . . .

I really am no expert, not close. And I have not followed the process for becoming a PR in many years. I am particularly not at all well acquainted with the PNP process.

I do follow misrepresentation cases against PRs and some naturalized citizens (prior to the Harper government, however, there were very few such cases), and tangentially other immigration connected misrepresentation cases. But the depth of what I understand about misrepresentation is not the stuff of expertise. It is more in the realm of what is realistic. A willingness to be open about it and address it directly, for what it is.

Mainly it is risky. But not all misrepresentation is created equal. Not all risks are created equal. This forum is rife with scores of participants who rather openly engage in misrepresentation about their residential address, cavalierly giving IRCC their address, the address of their "residence," which is not where they really live but an address they more or less believe they can "use" (typically where a close friend or family member lives). And suffer no negative consequences. Many here are quite emphatic this is "OK," or say "it will be fine." Often it is. Sometimes it is not.

How it goes, some will say, depends on luck. No. It depends on a lot of factors, all sorts of variables, all sorts of "if this . . . then that" contingencies. The details matter.

But here too not all details are created equal. There are many details which do not matter or matter very little. There are some details which loom large and have a big influence. Which brings me to your situation. Your post relates many details. Some far more important than others in terms of what is relevant for immigration purposes. Which is where my lack of expertise really shows: I cannot sort out what is at stake for you, let alone evaluate the risks, and am no where near capable of forecasting how things could go.

I am not even sure what stage you are at.

I suggest getting help from a lawyer, but it appears that might not be within your means financially.

Big difference: are you still a "nominee" or are you now a Permanent Resident.

It is not clear to me whether you are now a PR, or if you are a provincial nominee currently and NOT YET a Permanent Resident. This makes a huge difference.

My impression is that you are a PR. And that you took the out-of-province job BEFORE you landed. That can be problematic.

If you are NOT yet a landed PR . . . If you are not landed, withdrawing from the program should not be difficult. And if you are no longer intending to follow through with what being in the program entails (again, this varies and I am not acquainted with these details), that seems the necessary way to go. Probably. Could depend on the particulars. I do not know enough to offer you much information about what to consider, what options there are.

If you are a landed PR . . . which it appears you are . . .

If you are currently a Permanent Resident . . . With some exceptions (again, I am not all that well acquainted with the particulars in the various nominee programs), once the nominee has landed, and is a Permanent Resident, they are no longer a provincial nominee. They are a PR. So, if you have already landed, there is no withdrawing from the program.

If you are a landed PR . . . What probably matters (or what matters most) is what your intentions were prior to and up to the day you "landed" and became a PR. Without trying to sort out the details you explain, if you had already taken a job that was out-of-province BEFORE the day you landed, that is likely strong evidence of misrepresentation. That increases the risk of inadmissibility proceedings for misrepresentation, which could lead to the loss of PR status and deportation. Whether IRCC pursues this is not something I can predict. Not close. Probably not much you could do now to change what they do, BUT if you can afford a lawyer, getting a lawyer would be a good idea.

We do not see a lot of these cases actually prosecuted; most of the misrepresentation cases are addressed before the person does their landing. But that does not mean they are not prosecuted. Taking the out-of-province job before landing is strong evidence of not intending to work in the province. Wish I had a better idea how this typically goes, but I don't know. I just don't know.

If you took that job AFTER the day you landed, it is more complicated. But so far as I have seen, these situations generally do not result in any prosecution of misrepresentation UNLESS the person was more or less blatantly intending to go to another province without trying to follow-through with the program, or there is strong, direct evidence the individual was planning to take the job in another province before they landed.

All of which is subject to the caution that there is a lot about how these programs work and about how the provinces and IRCC handle and enforce them that I DO NOT KNOW.

can I just say that I totally love your posts. I assume you work in the legal field. You rock!

Thank you.

To be clear, I am NOT a Canadian lawyer, and while I have been living here for more than twenty years now, I have only been in a Canadian courthouse a very few times, never as a representative of anyone, almost all of them to be a spectator during one homicide trial in which my spouse was on the jury. That was interesting but more than a decade ago. Last time I met with a lawyer was when we did the closing on our house. Yep, nearly a decade and a half ago. And only one other time before that, to get help with my own immigration.

But beyond that . . . well, yeah, what's obvious need not be said out loud, especially if it might give the wrong impression. The correct impression is that I am NO expert in Canadian immigration, no expert in Canadian law, even if I have made a considerable effort to be informed about a very small range of matters in regards to both.

 

[Strunge29]

I do not have much to say that is likely to help you. Sorry. Appears to be a challenging situation.

Biggest factor, probably, or so I believe, is whether you are NOW a Permanent Resident, and if you are now a PR, when in relationship to when you became a PR did you take employment that is not consistent with the program. I address more below, with emphasis that I am not at all an expert, not close, in these matters. Which I repeat, for emphasis.

In particular . . .

I really am no expert, not close. And I have not followed the process for becoming a PR in many years. I am particularly not at all well acquainted with the PNP process.

I do follow misrepresentation cases against PRs and some naturalized citizens (prior to the Harper government, however, there were very few such cases), and tangentially other immigration connected misrepresentation cases. But the depth of what I understand about misrepresentation is not the stuff of expertise. It is more in the realm of what is realistic. A willingness to be open about it and address it directly, for what it is.

Mainly it is risky. But not all misrepresentation is created equal. Not all risks are created equal. This forum is rife with scores of participants who rather openly engage in misrepresentation about their residential address, cavalierly giving IRCC their address, the address of their "residence," which is not where they really live but an address they more or less believe they can "use" (typically where a close friend or family member lives). And suffer no negative consequences. Many here are quite emphatic this is "OK," or say "it will be fine." Often it is. Sometimes it is not.

How it goes, some will say, depends on luck. No. It depends on a lot of factors, all sorts of variables, all sorts of "if this . . . then that" contingencies. The details matter.

But here too not all details are created equal. There are many details which do not matter or matter very little. There are some details which loom large and have a big influence. Which brings me to your situation. Your post relates many details. Some far more important than others in terms of what is relevant for immigration purposes. Which is where my lack of expertise really shows: I cannot sort out what is at stake for you, let alone evaluate the risks, and am no where near capable of forecasting how things could go.

I am not even sure what stage you are at.

I suggest getting help from a lawyer, but it appears that might not be within your means financially.

Big difference: are you still a "nominee" or are you now a Permanent Resident.

It is not clear to me whether you are now a PR, or if you are a provincial nominee currently and NOT YET a Permanent Resident. This makes a huge difference.

My impression is that you are a PR. And that you took the out-of-province job BEFORE you landed. That can be problematic.

If you are NOT yet a landed PR . . . If you are not landed, withdrawing from the program should not be difficult. And if you are no longer intending to follow through with what being in the program entails (again, this varies and I am not acquainted with these details), that seems the necessary way to go. Probably. Could depend on the particulars. I do not know enough to offer you much information about what to consider, what options there are.

If you are a landed PR . . . which it appears you are . . .

If you are currently a Permanent Resident . . . With some exceptions (again, I am not all that well acquainted with the particulars in the various nominee programs), once the nominee has landed, and is a Permanent Resident, they are no longer a provincial nominee. They are a PR. So, if you have already landed, there is no withdrawing from the program.

If you are a landed PR . . . What probably matters (or what matters most) is what your intentions were prior to and up to the day you "landed" and became a PR. Without trying to sort out the details you explain, if you had already taken a job that was out-of-province BEFORE the day you landed, that is likely strong evidence of misrepresentation. That increases the risk of inadmissibility proceedings for misrepresentation, which could lead to the loss of PR status and deportation. Whether IRCC pursues this is not something I can predict. Not close. Probably not much you could do now to change what they do, BUT if you can afford a lawyer, getting a lawyer would be a good idea.

We do not see a lot of these cases actually prosecuted; most of the misrepresentation cases are addressed before the person does their landing. But that does not mean they are not prosecuted. Taking the out-of-province job before landing is strong evidence of not intending to work in the province. Wish I had a better idea how this typically goes, but I don't know. I just don't know.

If you took that job AFTER the day you landed, it is more complicated. But so far as I have seen, these situations generally do not result in any prosecution of misrepresentation UNLESS the person was more or less blatantly intending to go to another province without trying to follow-through with the program, or there is strong, direct evidence the individual was planning to take the job in another province before they landed.

All of which is subject to the caution that there is a lot about how these programs work and about how the provinces and IRCC handle and enforce them that I DO NOT KNOW.




Thank you.

To be clear, I am NOT a Canadian lawyer, and while I have been living here for more than twenty years now, I have only been in a Canadian courthouse a very few times, never as a representative of anyone, almost all of them to be a spectator during one homicide trial in which my spouse was on the jury. That was interesting but more than a decade ago. Last time I met with a lawyer was when we did the closing on our house. Yep, nearly a decade and a half ago. And only one other time before that, to get help with my own immigration.

But beyond that . . . well, yeah, what's obvious need not be said out loud, especially if it might give the wrong impression. The correct impression is that I am NO expert in Canadian immigration, no expert in Canadian law, even if I have made a considerable effort to be informed about a very small range of matters in regards to both.

Thank you very much for taking the time to give me your opinion. I will like to clarify my situation for your.

Prior to my nomination, I lived in Canada for about 6 years as international student. about 4 years of those were spent in the nominating province. I completed university in 2020 and applied for postgraduate work permit. This allows me to work any where in Canada. And then I also I applied for the PNP for postgrduates. I have received my nomination and applied for PR. I have not yet been given PR but I am pretty closed to. I think maybe this month ending or next month.

I received my PNP nomination on January this year and applied for PR on February. As I said, I have not yet received my PR, just a nominee. I have submitted all necessary document and my application is currently at Final Decision: still being processed... on my IRCC account. After my nomination I lived and remained in the province for 8 months. I am still a registered member of a professional association in the province and still fulfilling requirements to be conferred a title and privilege to practice in the province.

However, for eight months I could not find employment - permanent, meaningful employment in the province. Employers showed reluctance to hire me and keep me. I applied for near over 500 jobs, moved across 3 cities to look for work in the province. My disability was a barrier and it resulted in that I could not pay my bills, and this went on for about eight months. I even applied for and competed in a provincial government program for residents with disabilities but wasn't selected.

In desperation, I accepted a position outside the province. I updated my CIC account with my new job and residential status. And now I have been contacted by the nominating province and asked to prove my residency. They asked for bank statements, residential address or lease, ID such as drivers and health care and evidence of my current job status or job search efforts. I still have my IDs - drivers license and Healthcare card (the healthcard is expired but it expired when I was still living in the nominating province, about 3 years or so ago). I have reached out and asked the province to allow me to voluntarily withdraw my nomination. I am not yet a PR. I also will be reaching out to IRCC and requesting to withdraw my PR application. I am not a PR.

I still have ties in the nominating province but as you say the ties that provinces often requires to establish residency often differ from one to another. For instance in nearly all other provinces my continued membership of a professional association there that regulates one of the most critical industries there will constitute intent to settle there or at the very least contribute to the economy. But I am not so sure that the nominating province accept this evidence as intent. They sem to want you living there physically otherwise you are in violation of the nomination. But what if you can't find work there because employers won't hire you or keep you for long because of disability? This is my current situation.

I hope I have explained things well. English isn't my first language. Please let me know if you need more clarification. Thank you agian

 

[dpenabill]

I did not intend to suggest you clarify the details more, least not for me. I do not know enough about PNP programs generally, let alone in particular, let alone the one you are engaged with, to offer you much at all.

There are still some details regarding which I am not clear. But you do not need to explain these to me. Even with more information, I do not know enough to help.

For example:

I received my PNP nomination on January this year and applied for PR on February. As I said, I have not yet received my PR, just a nominee. I have submitted all necessary document and my application is currently at Final Decision: still being processed... on my IRCC account. After my nomination I lived and remained in the province for 8 months.

January this year was just a couple months ago, so it is not clear to me what you mean when you say you have been in the province for 8 months "after my nomination." But again there is no need to clarify this for me. I will not be able to help you any better even if you explain.

The key facts, so far as I am able to evaluate the situation (as you have clarified things), are just two:

-- you currently have an application in process pursuant to a PNP program; thus you are not, now, a PR​

-- you are not living or working in the province for which you are a PNP nominee​

Regarding this, as you note (and you have explained yourself very well, even if there are a couple things not entirely clear), the main question is whether you continue to be qualified for the PNP nomination:

They seem to want you living there physically otherwise you are in violation of the nomination. But what if you can't find work there because employers won't hire you or keep you for long because of disability? This is my current situation.

This gets into stuff I just plain do not know. That is, your question is mostly about what it takes to be qualified for the program, and whether it requires actually living in the province to stay qualified. I do not know.

I understand these programs generally require that qualified nominees intend to take employment in the nominating province. But that would be just ONE requirement among others. I do not know what the other requirements are. I also do not know how the administration of these programs decide who is qualified.

I suspect that at the least, where you currently work and live can be a factor considered and which can lead to the withdrawal of the nomination. But how that works, I don't know. This could be based on judging the nominee to no longer have the intent to work in the nominating province. Would someone in your position get an opportunity to explain you still plan (intend) to work in the nominating province? I don't know.

I don't know if as a matter of fact you can genuinely say you intend to work in the nominating province if your efforts to find work there show there is no employment opportunity there for you.

And I do not know what other options you have.

All of which very much illustrates the extent to which I am NO expert, NOT at all.

I am very sorry I cannot offer more help. It appears you have a lot to offer Canada and are genuinely committed to pursuing a life and career here. I wish you well. Perhaps there is some local organization that offers help for immigrants that could offer more assistance.

 

[Strunge29]

I did not intend to suggest you clarify the details more, least not for me. I do not know enough about PNP programs generally, let alone in particular, let alone the one you are engaged with, to offer you much at all.

There are still some details regarding which I am not clear. But you do not need to explain these to me. Even with more information, I do not know enough to help.

For example:


January this year was just a couple months ago, so it is not clear to me what you mean when you say you have been in the province for 8 months "after my nomination." But again there is no need to clarify this for me. I will not be able to help you any better even if you explain.

The key facts, so far as I am able to evaluate the situation (as you have clarified things), are just two:

-- you currently have an application in process pursuant to a PNP program; thus you are not, now, a PR​

-- you are not living or working in the province for which you are a PNP nominee​

Regarding this, as you note (and you have explained yourself very well, even if there are a couple things not entirely clear), the main question is whether you continue to be qualified for the PNP nomination:


This gets into stuff I just plain do not know. That is, your question is mostly about what it takes to be qualified for the program, and whether it requires actually living in the province to stay qualified. I do not know.

I understand these programs generally require that qualified nominees intend to take employment in the nominating province. But that would be just ONE requirement among others. I do not know what the other requirements are. I also do not know how the administration of these programs decide who is qualified.

I suspect that at the least, where you currently work and live can be a factor considered and which can lead to the withdrawal of the nomination. But how that works, I don't know. This could be based on judging the nominee to no longer have the intent to work in the nominating province. Would someone in your position get an opportunity to explain you still plan (intend) to work in the nominating province? I don't know.

I don't know if as a matter of fact you can genuinely say you intend to work in the nominating province if your efforts to find work there show there is no employment opportunity there for you.

And I do not know what other options you have.

All of which very much illustrates the extent to which I am NO expert, NOT at all.

I am very sorry I cannot offer more help. It appears you have a lot to offer Canada and are genuinely committed to pursuing a life and career here. I wish you well. Perhaps there is some local organization that offers help for immigrants that could offer more assistance.

Thank you. I understand. To correct the typo you raised, I received the nomination on January 2022 and applied for PR in February 2022. I waited to look for work until August 2022 and when I wasn't successful, I accepted a job offer from a government organization from another province. The question I am trying to answer is,
1. am I in danger of being charged for misrepresentation? Because I moved out of the province that nominated me before getting the PR? That is the question I am trying to find answers for. But thank you notheless for your kind responses.