Any application got cancelled due to FBI PCC explanation letter???

[ButterflyChemist]

Well, if you want to say that then everything is out of your control .... but for FBI PCC it takes FBI more than 4 months to issue one and that is something definitely out of applicants' control and there is nothing we can do about it. But the letter from your employer is not something really out of your control unless you really did somethings to piss off your employer that much and they won't issue you one. Even if your previous company does not exist anymore then if you are able to provide evidences to show CIC then I am sure as long as your evidence is legit then CIC will treat it as a special case. However at the end of the day it really depends on your visa officer and how legit your evidence is.

The time has nothing to do with it. Being unable to get a document and being unwilling to decline an ITA and wait on an outstanding document that you can get regardless of the time are too different things. If you cannot get your documents together in 60 days do not enter the pool. Its that simple. That is CICs operating principle as is evidenced by the number of applications being rejected. Having to ask for documents extends the processing time. They are trying to avoid that.

 

[hope for the best]

The time has nothing to do with it. Being unable to get a document and being unwilling to decline an ITA and wait on an outstanding document that you can get regardless of the time are too different things. If you cannot get your documents together in 60 days do not enter the pool. Its that simple. That is CICs operating principle as is evidenced by the number of applications being rejected. Having to ask for documents extends the processing time. They are trying to avoid that.

Well but CIC also mentioned " In exceptional circumstances, processing offices may be flexible in accommodating these requirements where delays occur outside the control of applicants. See the document checklist below for details." So like I said it really depends on the Visa officer and I am just glad you are not one of the Visa officer

 

[ButterflyChemist]

Well but CIC also mentioned " In exceptional circumstances, processing offices may be flexible in accommodating these requirements where delays occur outside the control of applicants. See the document checklist below for details." So like I said it really depends on the Visa officer and I am just glad you are not one of the Visa officer

Obviously this doesn't qualify as an exceptional circumstance and if others are submitting their FBI certs then everyone should unless it something other than turn around time poses a problem. Being glad I'm not a Visa Officer is pointless because apps are still being rejected.

 

[hope for the best]

Obviously this doesn't qualify as an exceptional circumstance and if others are submitting their FBI certs then everyone should unless it something other than turn around time poses a problem. Being glad I'm not a Visa Officer is pointless because apps are still being rejected.

Well like I said you are not a Visa Officer so you can't make that decision for any Visa Officer and on CIC website under the Police Certificate they do have the following,

Police certificates
Purpose

To determine if the applicant or their family members has a criminal record or poses a security risk to Canada

Document requirements

The PCs must have been issued in the three months prior to the submission of the e-APR.
The PCs are required upfront and mandatory for each country (except Canada) where an individual has lived for six or more months in a row.
In some circumstances, CIC must ask for the PC on behalf of the applicant. In some circumstances (e.g., New Zealand), a client must complete a consent form to initiate a PC. There are specific documents required of the applicant for such requests and they must be submitted as part of the complete application.

In exceptional circumstances, CIC may accept

proof of having requested a PC for such countries; or
a letter of explanation of best efforts (not a guarantee of acceptance).
Individuals who must submit this documentation[/b]

The principal applicant
Their spouse or common-law partner
Their dependent children 18 years of age or older, including non-accompanying

If you read above post carefully then you will see they did mention in some cases CIC may accept " PROOF OF HAVING REQUESTED a PC for such countries " So anyway like I said before it really depends on the Visa Officer and it is also a case by case issue. I think that guy who got rejected cos he submitted a 9 months old FBI PCC and I think he also currently lives or works in US ... and I think that also has something to do with why CIC rejected his application cos he is currently living or working in USA so a FBI PCC from him is rather important to CIC.

 

[warhound]

RUles have changed. your police clearance should not be older than 6 months in the country where you reside.

Any other country it has to be generated after you left the country. It can be more than 3 months old. no limit

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp

 

[rj16]

This is messed up. I was going to submit my profile as soon as I got my IELTS score, but seems like I should wait. I requested my FBI PCC on May 11th and if this is going to take them at least 3 months, I will plan to submit EE by end of June.
You have to walk on a fine line here, submit your EE too early and you may not get PCC in time if you get an ITA.
Submit your EE too late and the PCC could expire, because you don't know how soon you will get ITA.

I am thinking I will apply for a new PCC, once current one is 3 months old, and continue the cycle.

All the struggles for the PR!! :

 

[dobes]

This is messed up. I was going to submit my profile as soon as I got my IELTS score, but seems like I should wait. I requested my FBI PCC on May 11th and if this is going to take them at least 3 months, I will plan to submit EE by end of June.
You have to walk on a fine line here, submit your EE too early and you may not get PCC in time if you get an ITA.
Submit your EE too late and the PCC could expire, because you don't know how soon you will get ITA.

I am thinking I will apply for a new PCC, once current one is 3 months old, and continue the cycle.

All the struggles for the PR!! :

Did you not read what Warhound wrote just above your message? In fact, I was wondering if ANYONE in this thread had bothered to read that the PCC rules have changed. For the country you are in, they are good for 6 months. For any country you have left, if you got the PCC after you left, it is good indefinitely. Get FBI PCCs as soon as possible. If you are in the US, make a new application for one every 6 months. If you have left the US, get one right after you leave and then it's good indefinitely.

Everyone - READ through the boards and the CIC website FIRST, READ posts in the thread you are interested in. It will improve your IELTS score as well as your understanding of what is required!

 

[Anya654]

Did you not read what Warhound wrote just above your message? In fact, I was wondering if ANYONE in this thread had bothered to read that the PCC rules have changed. For the country you are in, they are good for 6 months. For any country you have left, if you got the PCC after you left, it is good indefinitely. Get FBI PCCs as soon as possible. If you are in the US, make a new application for one every 6 months. If you have left the US, get one right after you leave and then it's good indefinitely.

Everyone - READ through the boards and the CIC website FIRST, READ posts in the thread you are interested in. It will improve your IELTS score as well as your understanding of what is required!

+1 to you. Some people can't just be patient enough to read!

 

[lampbreaker]

Did you not read what Warhound wrote just above your message? In fact, I was wondering if ANYONE in this thread had bothered to read that the PCC rules have changed. For the country you are in, they are good for 6 months. For any country you have left, if you got the PCC after you left, it is good indefinitely. Get FBI PCCs as soon as possible. If you are in the US, make a new application for one every 6 months. If you have left the US, get one right after you leave and then it's good indefinitely.

Everyone - READ through the boards and the CIC website FIRST, READ posts in the thread you are interested in. It will improve your IELTS score as well as your understanding of what is required!

rj16 applied for PCC in May and even if everything else is ready he is not able to create a profile because FBI PC will take very long. 'READING' does not help here.

 

[Ibyt]

RUles have changed. your police clearance should not be older than 6 months in the country where you reside.

Any other country it has to be generated after you left the country. It can be more than 3 months old. no limit

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp

Hi,

What if PCC is still valid but was done just before you left a country. For example, if I have my PCC today, relocate to another country next week and apply next month. Will it be an issue?

 

[rj16]

Did you not read what Warhound wrote just above your message? In fact, I was wondering if ANYONE in this thread had bothered to read that the PCC rules have changed. For the country you are in, they are good for 6 months. For any country you have left, if you got the PCC after you left, it is good indefinitely. Get FBI PCCs as soon as possible. If you are in the US, make a new application for one every 6 months. If you have left the US, get one right after you leave and then it's good indefinitely.

Everyone - READ through the boards and the CIC website FIRST, READ posts in the thread you are interested in. It will improve your IELTS score as well as your understanding of what is required!

Not sure what you're upset about here. I have READ the rules have changed, I know it's valid for 6 months, since I live in the US. If you notice, I have not asked any question, just presented my opinion.

What you did not understand from my post is why I would reapply after 3 months. Because it takes another 3 months to get the PCC. So even though I have 6 months, I'd apply for new one after 3 months. I think it's a fair strategy and believe some people on the forum can use that approach. This is particularly true if your score is less and you're not certain if/when the ITA is going to come.
So my post was about helping others on the forum and I believe this is what the discussion should focus on.

 

[shakashaka]

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp#police_certificates

"PCs are typically valid for one year from the date they are issued
For the applicant’s current country of residence, the PC must be issued no more than six months before submission of the e-APR.

For countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the PC must be issued later than the departure date of the last time the client resided in that country for more than six months."

So does this mean I can use a 2/3/4 yrs old police certificate if I left the country I was residing and never went back again? I have FBI cert that I got in 2014 Dec, I am assuming this should be good last time I lived/visited was in the USA was 2010. I have applied for another one just in case.

I think CIC should clarify what they mean by PCs are typically valid for one year from the date they are issued i.e. If this applies to countries the applicant no longer resides

 

[sijusony]

Hi All,

Can you please guide what all documents, you have submitted as proof of PCC submission ?

I have scanned copies of finger print card and the application form that we need to submit.


Thanks

 

[Maplemadness82]

Jes..
Does it mean that we need to submit a PCC for Canada too if we are living in Canada on a WP?
The other intake.asp link says that "except Canada". Just want to clarify...