I think that guy who got rejected cos he sent in a 9 months old FBI PCC which he should not submit that one in the first place cos CIC did make that clear on the PCC shall be within 3 months ... but anyway it is a case by case issue. He got reject does not mean everyone will get rejected due to that reason. It also depends on VO as well.ram_2015 said:Thanks for the reply !!
I wanted to check if there is anybody else whose application got accepted or rejected by submitting explanation letter as FBI PCC takes around 3 months to issue the letter.
I am still waiting for mine..
Yes his PCC was old and I believe he attached a receipt and letter of explanation as well. Having said that CIC says the following:ram_2015 said:Thanks for the reply !!
I wanted to check if there is anybody else whose application got accepted or rejected by submitting explanation letter as FBI PCC takes around 3 months to issue the letter.
I am still waiting for mine..
Of course, they tell you not to get your PCC until you get an ITA.ButterflyChemist said:If your documents not in order do not be in any rush to enter the pool.
Where did you read that? You have to be strategic about this. If it takes three months to get a PCC you cannot wait until you get an ITA. People have been rushing into the pool even wanting to guess what their IELTS scores will be so they can create a profile and get into the pool. That is just crazy.kateg said:Of course, they tell you not to get your PCC until you get an ITA.
ButterflyChemist said:Yes his PCC was old and I believe he attached a receipt and letter of explanation as well. Having said that CIC says the following:
''Applicants must undergo upfront medical examinations and submit all required police certificates (PCs) as part of their complete application. In exceptional circumstances, processing offices may be flexible in accommodating these requirements where delays occur outside the control of applicants. See the document checklist below for details."
If your documents not in order do not be in any rush to enter the pool.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp
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Having to say that I think that guy should not even attach that 9 months old FBI PCC at all... he should just attach the letter of explanation and also the proof that he has already applied the new FBI PCC. Cos I think sometimes CIC got pissed more if you attached the wrong document to them. So I think in that case if that guy has not attached that 9 months old FBI PCC then maybe CIC will just send him a FBI PCC request but not reject his application. But of course it is just my opinion.
hope for the best said:If you read the information about submitting electronic PR applications it says that you must submit PCC upfront. They will not ask for any mandatory document that is missing. The application will just be rejected.ButterflyChemist said:Yes his PCC was old and I believe he attached a receipt and letter of explanation as well. Having said that CIC says the following:
''Applicants must undergo upfront medical examinations and submit all required police certificates (PCs) as part of their complete application. In exceptional circumstances, processing offices may be flexible in accommodating these requirements where delays occur outside the control of applicants. See the document checklist below for details."
If your documents not in order do not be in any rush to enter the pool.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp
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Having to say that I think that guy should not even attach that 9 months old FBI PCC at all... he should just attach the letter of explanation and also the proof that he has already applied the new FBI PCC. Cos I think sometimes CIC got pissed more if you attached the wrong document to them. So I think in that case if that guy has not attached that 9 months old FBI PCC then maybe CIC will just send him a FBI PCC request but not reject his application. But of course it is just my opinion.
well ....where did they say that ? I believe they did say to submit completed applications but not saying must submit PCC upfront? Anyway all I can say is it is really depends on your Visa officers and also case by case I suppose .... cos everyone knows it is just not possible to get a FBI PCC upfront cos it takes at least more than 4 months to get it and if you applied it before you got ITA then most likely it will be no good cos CIC also requested the PCC needs to be valid within 3 months at the time you submitted your documents. Anyway all I want to say is submit a wrong document pissed CIC officer more than not submit it at all BUT of course you got to submit a really good explanation letter with evidence so the Visa Officer will accept it.ButterflyChemist said:If you read the information about submitting electronic PR applications it says that you must submit PCC upfront. They will not ask for any mandatory document that is missing. The application will just be rejected.
hope for the best said:well ....where did they say that ?
1. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-how.asp
To immigrate to Canada, you and any family members 18 and older must include their police certificates as part of the application for permanent residence.
2. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp
Mandatory documents for all applicants
The following documents are mandatory and must be provided by all applicants.
Applications that do not contain the following documents will be rejected as incomplete and fees will be refunded, accordingly.
- Medical examination confirmation
- Police certificates
- Copy of passport/travel document bio data page
- Proof of work experience
- Proof of funds
everyone knows it is just not possible to get a FBI PCC upfront cos it takes at least more than 4 months to get it and if you applied it before you got ITA then most likely it will be no good cos CIC also requested the PCC needs to be valid within 3 months at the time you submitted your documents.
Your information is out-of-date. For your country of residence, new rules (2015-04-23) are that it cannot be older than 6 months at time of application. For other countries you lived in before, the PCC can be issued any time AFTER you left the country.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp
\hope for the best said:Applicants must undergo upfront medical examinations and submit all required police certificates (PCs) as part of their complete application. In exceptional circumstances, processing offices may be flexible in accommodating these requirements where delays occur outside the control of applicants. See the document checklist below for details.
Well..... as now to get a FBI PCC takes more than 4 months then I really think this document definitely fall into " OUTSIDE THE CONTROL OF APPLICANTS" category .... anyway just can hope for the best now !!!
Well, if you want to say that then everything is out of your control .... but for FBI PCC it takes FBI more than 4 months to issue one and that is something definitely out of applicants' control and there is nothing we can do about it. But the letter from your employer is not something really out of your control unless you really did somethings to piss off your employer that much and they won't issue you one. Even if your previous company does not exist anymore then if you are able to provide evidences to show CIC then I am sure as long as your evidence is legit then CIC will treat it as a special case. However at the end of the day it really depends on your visa officer and how legit your evidence is.ButterflyChemist said:\
I disagree with you. You simply just wait until you have it or until the date due for you to receive it falls within the 60 days you have to submit your application if you receive an ITA. An employer refusing to write you a reference letter is outside of your control or being able to get such a letter because a former company ceased to exist.
People are in this mad rush to get PR. Under the old system 6 months for PR would have been unheard of. If you wait a month or two to get everything in order you would still be in good stead. Stop being in such a rush and do it right the first time.