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Any Americans have advice on study permit?

Oklahoma

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Nov 12, 2012
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Hello, I was wondering if there are any Americans in this forum who have applied for Canadian Universities?

Main purpose being the process to recieve a Study Permit.

On your application, what was the duration or "study period"? If i was to be attending University 1, should i be renewing my study permit per semester? Or should i be applying for the entire 2 semesters?

Also,

Anyone with the embassay out of Los Angeles? Processing times say 5 weeks. Is this accurate?

Thank you for any response, American or not : )
 

dbss

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Study period will be your total duration of studies with two semesters in one year....universities operate on a tri-semester basis but Immigration considers 2 semesters equivalent to 1 year

So say study a bachelor's program...you will be filling in 4 years for bachelors + time for your graduation

also the offer letter you will receive will mention the length of studies
 

Oklahoma

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Nov 12, 2012
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Awesome, thanks for such a fast reply.

My Financial Aid office has a letter ready for me to send in to immigration to show that my Fasfa loan has processed. However she has put that my attendance is January2013-April2013.

So am i supposed to follow through with this and show my finances for only that period and get a study permit for only that period? Or should i try to work with her on making it my entire 2 terms?

On my enrollment student information letter from the University, i am considered: "Undergraduate, University 1, Year 1 of 4 year program."

The reason behind me wanting to apply my student permit for my entire University 1 program is because i would have to show my finances on that entire year, which i can with Fasfa, Sallie Mae, and my bank statements. I can not show that i have funds for 4 years. I have Fasfa, so that gives me loans per year, and i plan on getting funded in the future with scholarships, my indian scholarships, and anything left over will be in my private loan.

Tell me what you think about that.
 

Oklahoma

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Nov 12, 2012
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Come on people, lay it on me.
;D
Any advice? Anything you can tell me to help? Tricks? Hints? Tell me about your process?

I feel like im going to get to the border and they are going to say "Sorry." And im going to have to drive the 1000 miles back home.
 

dbss

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FASFA is processed on an yearly basis on the basis of your need and your income tax returns and hence they will be able to process it only for one year...you will have to convince the Border Service agent that you will be getting support from Fasfa and also that you have some spare cash with you just in case

because fafsa is processed only for one year or in your case only one semester (taxes will be done again in April and your eligibility assessed again) you would have to explain the Border service agent that you have enough money

you will still be studying for 4 years...the agent will ask you how do you plan on paying and you say fafsa plus other supports etc and he will ask you duration you should say 4 years....they don't have anything to do with fafsa
 

Oklahoma

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Nov 12, 2012
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Great!

When i show proof of other funds, like whats in my bank account, are they looking for a number that will carry me for 4 years? Or can i simply say,(for my private loan or "cost of living") this is my current loan, to last me for a year, and i have been advised to re-apply per-year or as needed?

Thanks so much for the advice guys, as you can tell, im new at this and appreciate the input!

Are border officials intimidating? Or is it a pretty fast, easy, painless procedure?
 

dbss

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It depends on who you get as the Agent...some of the agents are easy going while some are not..

You can show them that you have living expenses but you should be able to show them that you have enough money now or will have it in the future to support yourself...

This is the general rule of any country allowing a student to enter it....
 

Oklahoma

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Nov 12, 2012
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Any examples on what people have shown to a Border agent?

What if i said-

Qualified/approved for $9,500 first year FASFA
Qualified/approved for $10,000 private loan with Sallie Mae.
Bank statement for $5,000.

So 24,500.

Would a number like that be satisfactory?

Or should i be saying what FASFA has mapped out per year independent;

1st year - $9,500
2nd year - $10,500
3rd year(beyond) - $12,500

And that i have a co-signer parent on a private loan, that i can apply for more private loans.

And that if granted, would be able to work on-campus to help with any extra costs.

Would that be "satisfying" enough?

Thanks :eek:
 

dbss

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Dude long story short..

you need to be able to prove you have all the tuition fee along with $10000 per year for living expenses.

don't tell them you are totally relying on fafsa...
 

NeedleArtist

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In your second post you mention "My Financial Aiod Office ..." Exactly what financial aid office are you referrining to here? What school here in Canada will you be attending? From your posts, it appears you may not be 100% clear on the entire process.

In a nutshell (as DBSS pointed out) the correct process you should be following is this:

1.) Do some research and select a school (or schools) that offer the program(s) you're interested in.

2.) Submit application(s) to the school(s). Each school has it's own policies and qualification requirements. Whereas some colleges are non-competitive, most (if not all) universities have competitive admissions policies. You'll find specifics at each school's websites, including instructions onhow to apply, what documents to submit, etc. Some schools put more weight on GPA, class standing, etc. whereas others may value extracurricular activitiies, etc as well. Keep in mind that universities receive many more applications each year than they have openings, so be flexible and apply to more than one school unless you're previous academics are top-tier. Each school sets its own policies as far as fees are concerned, including the application fee, which usually run anywhere from $75.00 to $300.00, each. Also, when checking out a school, make sure you're looking at the section for INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. Tuitions and fees for non-Canadian citizen or PR students are much higher (including the initial application fee) and a small number of course/degree offerings may also be unavailable to international students.
Also important: When you apply, you'll have to specify the program as well as the start term. Not to worry, you can always change the program later if your goals/interests change. You'll also likely need to furnish proof of adequate English or French (if the school is in Quebec) language skills.

3.) After processing your application(s) the school(s) will send you one of three letters:
a) rejection, either because you don't meet the program's prerequisites, because other applicants had better application packets than you and all slots are filled, or because your application was submitted too late for the requested starting term.
b) request for more information, usually because the application was incomplete and/or required documents were not received.
c) a conditional acceptance. This is the one you're looking for. This letter will state that you've been accepted into the program you applied for and will outline next-steps you need to follow. Basically this means formally agreeing to the school's provisional acceptance in writing, possibly writing a language assessment exam (details will be provided), and remitting tuition and fees. Most schools require the up-front payment of estimated tuition and fees for the first term. (For latter terms, a commitment fee of $500 to $1000 is due about halfway through the current term, rather than the full tuition/fee amount required for the first term.) This payment is refundable (less a circa $500 administrative fee) only if you are unable to get a study permit, so only make the payment if you're certaiun of your plans. lastly, the letter will detail deadlines as to payment and formal acceptance of the school's offer.

4.) Once you formally agree, meet any language or other testing requirements, and make any necessary payments, the school will provide you with the all-important ACCEPTANCE LETTER. It will specify the program of study, the start and end dates fo the program, the cost of the program, and will state exactly how much money (for tuition/fees) you have paid. Until y0u receive this letter, you cannot apply for a Study Permit.

IMPORTANT: THE COLLEGE/UNIVERSITY HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH PROCESSING OR GRANTING A STUDY PERMIT.

5.) Only after you receive the accepatance letter can you apply for the Study Permit. At a minimum, you'll need the letter, proof-of-funds and a valid passport. Proof-of-funds can be a current bank statement, actual cash, etc. You must show an amount that covers, at a minimum, the cost of the first year tuition and fees, plus $10,000 for the first year's living exdpenses. Any amounts you have already paid (as stated in the acceptance letter) can bet deucted froim the amount you need to show.

5a. If you are a U.S. citizen applicant only, you can get the Study Permit any point of entry (either by land or air). No medicals or police background checks are necessary. The whole process will take about 20 minutes. If your eligible to use this method, do not try to get the permit too soon. Generally, they'll issue the permit about a month before start of the term but not earlier.

5b. Non-U.S. (but visa-exempt) applicants: Follow the Study Permit application procedures on the CIC website. Medicals/police checks may or may not be required, depending on nationality.

A few other notes/thoughts ...

1) I have purposely avoided topics such as proving strong home ties, aplying for a program/degree that follows logical progression based on previous educational/work expereience, etc. Since you mentioned you're visa-exempt these issues aren't as important for you. In addition, these topics have been addressed ad-infinitum in other threads and need not be repeated here.

2) Don't count on scholarships/bursaries to supplement your funding. Bursaries are ONLY awarded to Canadian citizens/PRs, and scholarships are only VERY VERY RARELY provided to international students. Unless the source of scholarship is in your home country, don't assume you'll get one, no matter how great a student you are.

3) You won't be able to work until you've been a studen for AT LEAST six months. You can apply for an off-campus work permit once you've demonstrated satisfactory academic preformance and attended a required orientation. Work permit fee is $150. You must be attending a Public college or university and must carry a fulltime course load. For-profit private school students are not elligible for work permits. Once you get a permit, you'll be limited to a 20-hour work week except during academic breaks. You must at all times maintain fulltime status and meet GPA minimums to maintain eligibilty to work. Important thing to remember here is DON'T COUNT ON WORK to provide funds for the first year.

For the record, I'm a U.S. citizen myself, attending school fulltime in Vancouver. The information I provide comes from first-hand experience.

Good luck in your endeavours.
 

Oklahoma

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Nov 12, 2012
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Well thank you so much!!!!

This is what i need, someone who is American, who has done the whole process!

Thank you so much for taking your time out to write that very detailed letter!

The financial office that i was speaking of, was that of the University of Manitoba. Ive done the process all the way up to my financial officer okaying my loans and putting them in place for my first semester. I was kinda confused with the letter because that really dosnt prove to the immigration officials anything. So i wondered what your letter might of said? Did you go through student loans? Did your school provide a letter stating that you had paid your tuition for a full year? Can you tell me?

Point 5a that you made, about getting your study permit at the border... is this what you did? I thought you had to send in and get your "letter of introduction" then you show that to the border and go on with process? I read on cic, that if your study is less than 6 months then you can apply at the border. I did not read anything about applying at the border even if your schooling is more than that. Is there something that i dont know? Are you saying that i can apply for my 4 year school at the border, in person, without having to send anything into immigration before that?

Once again, i appreciate all the help. Your correct in saying that im not 100% clear, this is my first time. So take you, before you went to school in Van, and probably still minus a few things ;D

Include anything about your process, hope to hear from ya.
 

NeedleArtist

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The BIG question is, are you an American citizen? If yes, you won't need medicals, police checks, and can get the study permit at the border. If you're not a US citizen, the process becomes more involved. Prior to beginning my studies, I lived in Washington only a few miles from the border, which allowed me to check out many schools, submit applications, look for housing, etc. before my actual arrival in Vancouver. This also allowed me to drive to the border and get my permit (and spousal open work permit) in advance. If you're close enough to the border, you can do the same; otherwise you'll have to get it when your driving/flying up.

Are you communicating with the school via email/phone/post or in person?

Have you formally applied (including submitting transcripts) to UM for a specific program of study and term, and have they accepted your application? If yes, you should have received a letter outlining what you need to do next. It should include info on how much you need to pay and by when. The amount is determined by each school, but is usually equal to the estimated tuition and fees for he first term. Once you pay the commitment fee, the school should issue you with a letter that states you've been accepted, lists the amount you've prepaid, and specifies the program of study and length of the program, as well as the starting date.

Make sure you're dealing directly with UM's International Education office, and not just the financial aid folks. The IE office will be familiar with the entire process, forms, letters, etc. you need, an so on. All they do is recruit and assist international students, and you need to make sure you keep them in the loop at all times. They'll also assist you in applying for the Provincial Medical Insurance when you become eligible (usually after 3 months) and refer you to companies from which you can purchase interim medical coverage during the waiting period. Both are non-optional.

The only things you'll need at the border to get a study permit (again, provided you're a US citizen) are a valid passport, the permit application fee, final acceptance letter, proof that you've paid the commitment fee (usually part of the letter) and proof of funds. The guys at the border don't care how much you've prepaid ... that's between you and the school. You WILL however have to show availability of funds to cover your first year of schooling (less any amounts already paid) plus $10,000 for living expenses. No "letter of introduction" is necessary.