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An Extremely Complex Immigration Problem - Can Anyone Help?

Smithsboy

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Aug 6, 2012
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I sincerely hope that the expertise on this forum can help solve my very complex immigration problem.

I am a British Citizen, Male, 42, and a single father of a 15 year old son. I arrived in Canada at Calgary Airport in February 2012, in possession of a positive LMO for a Live-in Caregiver (NOC 6474). My prospective employer is my older sister, a PR of Canada for 8 years. The responsibility of the role, is to provide care for my 18 year old autistic niece, and secondly, my 12 year old nephew. My sister was abandoned by the children’s father a couple of years ago, and her job requires her to travel across Canada fairly frequently throughout the year. Myself and my family have visited many times over the last couple of years to provide support and assistance.

My career to date has been diverse, with my main area of employment being Health & Safety Management/Inspector/Advisor (NOC 7216), also Manufacturing Management/Supervision, and Caring for my elderly parents and also my niece, at various stages since she was 3 years old.

On arrival at the airport, during an evening in February, we were informed that there was a problem with my medical (which i took in August 2011 in the UK, at the request of Immigration), and i would not be issued with the 2 year work permit. The next hour or so was all a bit of a blur! I am, and always have been, in very good health. Finally, i was issued with a 2 year work permit, due to Immigration not recognising the code used for the rejection of my medical, and being out of office hours, not being able to contact the appropriate department. What i can remember, is that no information was given as to the reason for the initial rejection.

And so my life in this fantastic country started, and i enjoyed my work immensely. My son started High School in Grade 10 in March, and we spent the next couple of months assessing the possibility of applying for Permanent Residence, which we duly did in May.

In June, i received an email from the Centralized Intake Office informing me that my application had been rejected for the following reasons;

1, Although you have indicated that you have Arranged Employment, the occupation listed on the Labour Market Opinion - 6474 does not meet the 0, A or B skill level requirements of Regulation 82(2)a of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA).

2, As well you have indicated work experience in NOC 7216. A maximum of 10,000 complete Federal Skilled Worker applications, without an offer of arranged employment, or a maximum of 500 complete Federal Skilled Worker applications per National Occupation Classification (NOC) code will be considered for processing each year. Your application was received after the maximum of 500 complete Federal Skilled Worker applications per NOC 7216 was reached.

When i checked my work permit, attached to my passport, it does indeed state the occupation as Babysitters, Nannies & Par Help, and not Live-in Caregiver, as per my positive LMO and also my Contract of Employment.

I suddenly feel quite concerned, and more than a little anxiety. As a single father, my obligation to provide stability for my son is under threat. It seems that the work i am currently doing in Canada will not be considered Arranged Employment for a future FSW application, and neither will it be considered Skilled Work Experience, if i want to apply under the Canadian Experience Class.

I would be forever grateful if any forum members could answer the following questions;

1, Can Canada Immigration withhold details of my failed medical, without informing me at any time?

2, When my 2 year work permit is about to expire, and my application for a further work permit is considered (My sister has assured me that she will require me for at least the next 4 years), will this mystery code for the failed medical rejection come back to haunt me...will i require a further medical?

3, My son will be in his final year of High School, and preparing to graduate when the initial 2 year period is up (Feb 2014). Is there a possibility that Immigration could order our removal from the country, if all applications/extensions have failed?

4, Without an offer of Arranged Employment for a FSW application (if indeed my current position does not qualify), i am dangerously close to failing to reach the required 67 points. It’s all depending on whether my 2 years College/University experience will be treat as such, due to large parts being home learning. The qualifications gained were Certificate in Management (ILM/NEBSM) and the NEBOSH General Certificate (Health & Safety). What are my realistic chances of obtaining PR status?

5, My son will be 18 in August 2014. If i have not secured PR status by this time, does he have to apply himself, and what chance has he got?

6, Will the work i am currently undertaking be considered as experience for a Live-in Caregiver position (rather than my sister simply applying to extend the LMO)?

7, Do i have any other options?

Many thanks for your time.

Regards,

Dave.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,074
21,636
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
I'll help you with one question.

Your current LMO as a live in caregiver does not qualify as an arranged employment offer for the purposes of the FSW program. CIC was correct in rejecting your application.

Note that as of now, you cannot apply through the FSW program without a qualifying job offer in Canada. CIC is supposed to be re-opening the FSW program to applications without a job offer early next year.

If you want to become a PR based on your work as a live in caregiver in Canada, you'll need to complete two years of full time employment in Canada. More details here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/caregiver/extend-stay.asp#resident

Based on the information you've provided, the above route seems like your best bet for PR. However you won't qualify to apply for another two years.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,074
21,636
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Just add - you're correct in understanding that the work experience you're obtaining now will not qualify you for Canadian Experience Class.

Again, your best option is to apply for PR through the live in caregiver class once you have two years of experience here.

Good luck. Hope someone can address the rest of your questions.
 

SenoritaBella

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Jan 2, 2012
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Category........
Visa Office......
Dakar
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-01-2014
AOR Received.
12-02-2014
File Transfer...
25-02-2014
Med's Request
02-11-2015
Med's Done....
18-09-2013
Passport Req..
02-11-2015
VISA ISSUED...
hopefully soon
LANDED..........
hopefully soon
Hi,

If you had a serious medical condition, your DMP would have told you and/or asked you to do more tests or see a specialist, etc. As well, Medical Office in Ottawa would have requested additional tests. That said, if you are still concerned, you may apply for your GCMS/Caips notes under the Privacy Act(free of charge). It contains the visa officers' notes and should say whether you "passed" your medicals.
Form here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5563E.pdf

As for options, see below:

a) Info on live-in caregiver program: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/caregiver/apply-how.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/caregiver/extend-stay.asp
In-Canada Application for Permanent Residence(Live-in Caregivers): http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/live-in.asp

or

b) obtain a minimum of 24 months of full-time skilled work experience or if part-time, a minimum of 24 months and at least 3900 hours. You will be able to apply under the Canadian Experience Class - foreign worker stream. There is talk of reducing it to 1 year work experience, but this is not yet law.

or

c) find permanent employment in NOC 7216 or any other skilled occupation and see whether the employer would be willing to apply for an Arranged Employment Opinion from HRSDC. This will enable you to apply under the federal skilled worker class.

Hope this helps!
 

Smithsboy

Member
Aug 6, 2012
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scylla said:
I'll help you with one question.

Your current LMO as a live in caregiver does not qualify as an arranged employment offer for the purposes of the FSW program. CIC was correct in rejecting your application.

Note that as of now, you cannot apply through the FSW program without a qualifying job offer in Canada. CIC is supposed to be re-opening the FSW program to applications without a job offer early next year.

If you want to become a PR based on your work as a live in caregiver in Canada, you'll need to complete two years of full time employment in Canada. More details here:

Based on the information you've provided, the above route seems like your best bet for PR. However you won't qualify to apply for another two years.
Many thanks for the responses, it is greatly appreciated.

Regarding this reply, am i classed at this moment as a Live-in Caregiver...or am i a Babysitter, Nanny or Parent Helper, which is on my work permit? This is one of my main concerns
 

Smithsboy

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Aug 6, 2012
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SenoritaBella said:
Hi,

If you had a serious medical condition, your DMP would have told you and/or asked you to do more tests or see a specialist, etc. As well, Medical Office in Ottawa would have requested additional tests. That said, if you are still concerned, you may apply for your GCMS/Caips notes under the Privacy Act(free of charge). It contains the visa officers' notes and should say whether you "passed" your medicals.


Many thanks for the link, this is exactly what i need. Can anyone please answer any of my other questions?
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,074
21,636
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Smithsboy said:
Many thanks for the responses, it is greatly appreciated.

Regarding this reply, am i classed at this moment as a Live-in Caregiver...or am i a Babysitter, Nanny or Parent Helper, which is on my work permit? This is one of my main concerns
Try asking this question in the Foreign Workers section of this forum where there are other people such as yourself who are here as live in caregivers:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/foreign-workers-b10.0/
 

PMM

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Hi


scylla said:
Just add - you're correct in understanding that the work experience you're obtaining now will not qualify you for Canadian Experience Class.

Again, your best option is to apply for PR through the live in caregiver class once you have two years of experience here.

Good luck. Hope someone can address the rest of your questions.
I would bet that the OP wasn't issued a work permit under the LIC, but as a Babysitter Nanny. I assume that, because to get a TWP as LIC he would have had to have either a 6 months course or worked as LIC for 1 year before the TWP was issued.
 

Smithsboy

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Aug 6, 2012
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PMM said:
Hi


I would bet that the OP wasn't issued a work permit under the LIC, but as a Babysitter Nanny. I assume that, because to get a TWP as LIC he would have had to have either a 6 months course or worked as LIC for 1 year before the TWP was issued.


Many thanks PMM. Does this mean i would be able to apply for a LIC after i've worked this position for a year?