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fkl

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ch.immigration said:
I dnt know how to cover pervious rejection in the cover letter written by applicant(my wife)
Can anyone please help me in this
If you have any suggestions plz pm me or post here
I have seen many cases who are approved in their second trv
Welcome to all suggestions
Thanks
Hi ch.immigration,

What were the details of previous rejection? Did you apply for gcms notes? Did you apply for trv first and now for WP? Also if you wrote any tentative plans the first time? Without knowing any of these its hard to make a suggestion

All the best this time.
 

ch.immigration

Hero Member
Feb 14, 2013
701
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Category........
Visa Office......
islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
march 2013 for wife
Doc's Request.
Sent volunterily on 15 dec 2013
AOR Received.
april 2013
File Transfer...
april 2013
Med's Request
24 sep 2014
Interview........
inshallah waived
fkl said:
Hi ch.immigration,

What were the details of previous rejection? Did you apply for gcms notes? Did you apply for trv first and now for WP? Also if you wrote any tentative plans the first time? Without knowing any of these its hard to make a suggestion

All the best this time.
Rejection reasons are
No travel history , weak ties, not enough funds

I applied only for trv once in last summer
Never applied for work permit
I didnt write much plans but to visit husband and spend time together
But i didnt show her job before now she has a job since aug 2013
And i ll attach her job letter and purpose of visit is ...visit spouse during summer holidays
But i dnt know how to answer previous rejections
If you please suggest how can i explain my ties this time
 

fkl

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Apr 25, 2013
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ch.immigration said:
Rejection reasons are
No travel history , weak ties, not enough funds

I applied only for trv once in last summer
Never applied for work permit
I didnt write much plans but to visit husband and spend time together
But i didnt show her job before now she has a job since aug 2013
And i ll attach her job letter and purpose of visit is ...visit spouse during summer holidays
But i dnt know how to answer previous rejections
If you please suggest how can i explain my ties this time
Oh so you are still applying for trv. I don't know may be it gets through. But if you ask for a personal opinion, a person whose spouse is living in Canada doesn't go there to just visit him. Even if this is true, it is my feeling that CIC doesn't view it that way. But rather a way to get past the standard time frame of Spousal sponsorship. So probably they look for very strong reasons to return to home country (ties).

All you can say now is to show enough funds, currently working, so another reason to return (though it seldom would fly). And that is pretty much about it.

You didn't order notes earlier, so if say they have a documentation concern (say could be about your details i.e. job / student status NOC code), we wouldn't know for sure.

For e.g. a friend of mine is doing a Post Doc and initially he went alone to Canada. Latter he applied for SOWP which was refused with wording like "VO is not satisfied that you qualify without LMO or job". But when they guy got GCMS notes, he got to know that they were not sure of his NOC code because people on Post Doc didn't require LMO so job details were needed. The next time he submitted a more detailed letter from employer, stating his position, responsibilities etc. in detail as well any possible extensions contract and is waiting decision now. Hopefully he would get through this time.

The reason of mentioning above is that GCMS notes often really help. Without that it is mere speculation unless you have a very clear an obviously noted reason for refusal that you sure can address in the next attempt.

All the best
 

ch.immigration

Hero Member
Feb 14, 2013
701
16
Category........
Visa Office......
islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
march 2013 for wife
Doc's Request.
Sent volunterily on 15 dec 2013
AOR Received.
april 2013
File Transfer...
april 2013
Med's Request
24 sep 2014
Interview........
inshallah waived
fkl said:
Oh so you are still applying for trv. I don't know may be it gets through. But if you ask for a personal opinion, a person whose spouse is living in Canada doesn't go there to just visit him. Even if this is true, it is my feeling that CIC doesn't view it that way. But rather a way to get past the standard time frame of Spousal sponsorship. So probably they look for very strong reasons to return to home country (ties).

All you can say now is to show enough funds, currently working, so another reason to return (though it seldom would fly). And that is pretty much about it.

You didn't order notes earlier, so if say they have a documentation concern (say could be about your details i.e. job / student status NOC code), we wouldn't know for sure.

For e.g. a friend of mine is doing a Post Doc and initially he went alone to Canada. Latter he applied for SOWP which was refused with wording like "VO is not satisfied that you qualify without LMO or job". But when they guy got GCMS notes, he got to know that they were not sure of his NOC code because people on Post Doc didn't require LMO so job details were needed. The next time he submitted a more detailed letter from employer, stating his position, responsibilities etc. in detail as well any possible extensions contract and is waiting decision now. Hopefully he would get through this time.

The reason of mentioning above is that GCMS notes often really help. Without that it is mere speculation unless you have a very clear an obviously noted reason for refusal that you sure can address in the next attempt.

All the best
Thanks for your valueable words my friend
You always prove very helpful
I m not sure what to do at this stage
Nothing from immigration after a year
Its been a year since we met
So we have plans to meet in summer
But before leaving i wish to try for her trv
And i ll wait if they approved
In other case i ll go there
This time showing her job letter + strong bank statement + property (house +land) saving accounts details
All this may b may b may b ...helpful
Its all our luck ..
If visa is approved we ll be out of this painful uncertain wait
Inshallah...
Just hoping and trying my best
 

fkl

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Apr 25, 2013
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ch.immigration said:
Thanks for your valueable words my friend
You always prove very helpful
I m not sure what to do at this stage
Nothing from immigration after a year
Its been a year since we met
So we have plans to meet in summer
But before leaving i wish to try for her trv
And i ll wait if they approved
In other case i ll go there
This time showing her job letter + strong bank statement + property (house +land) saving accounts details
All this may b may b may b ...helpful
Its all our luck ..
If visa is approved we ll be out of this painful uncertain wait
Inshallah...
Just hoping and trying my best
No problem. Wish you all the very best. Though i still don't get it that why didn't you opt trying for an OWP instead? At least that doesn't attempt to show that you are only going there for a visit and rather that your wife intends to go and live with you until your PR is processed which is perfectly legal and ok.
 

ch.immigration

Hero Member
Feb 14, 2013
701
16
Category........
Visa Office......
islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
march 2013 for wife
Doc's Request.
Sent volunterily on 15 dec 2013
AOR Received.
april 2013
File Transfer...
april 2013
Med's Request
24 sep 2014
Interview........
inshallah waived
fkl said:
No problem. Wish you all the very best. Though i still don't get it that why didn't you opt trying for an OWP instead? At least that doesn't attempt to show that you are only going there for a visit and rather that your wife intends to go and live with you until your PR is processed which is perfectly legal and ok.
I m still confused wat to do:(
Even i Dnt knw y i m not trying owp ...
May be i have to work a bit more on owp
It takes even more time but still dnt know how i ll plan my owp file

Lets see wat to do
 

hladha

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Aug 25, 2013
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Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad/London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 2013
AOR Received.
August 2013
File Transfer...
Jan 2014 to London office
Med's Request
10 Dec 2014 (done)
Interview........
19 Jan 2015
VISA ISSUED...
19 Jan 2015
LANDED..........
25 Jan 2015
ch.immigration said:
I m still confused wat to do:(
Even i Dnt knw y i m not trying owp ...
May be i have to work a bit more on owp
It takes even more time but still dnt know how i ll plan my owp file

Lets see wat to do
You can not apply for an OWP for your spouse if you are a permenant resident or citizen. That's for Outland sponsorship applications. For inland you can apply for OWP for your spouse regardless of whatever your status is in the country.
 

ch.immigration

Hero Member
Feb 14, 2013
701
16
Category........
Visa Office......
islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
march 2013 for wife
Doc's Request.
Sent volunterily on 15 dec 2013
AOR Received.
april 2013
File Transfer...
april 2013
Med's Request
24 sep 2014
Interview........
inshallah waived
Your document checklist
This is the list of documents you need to submit in order to apply. You cannot proceed until each file has been uploaded. Select the question mark button to learn more about each document.
Application Form(s)
Application for Visitor Visa (Temporary Resident Visa) Made Outside of Canada (IMM5257) (required)


Supporting Documents
Letter of Support (required)
Family Information (IMM5645) (required)
Itinerary, Travel (required)
Purpose of Travel - Other (required)
Passport or travel document (required)
Proof of Relationship (required)
Employment Reference Letter (required)
Invitation Letter (required)
Proof of Financial Resource of Supporter (required)
Proof of Income (required)
Proof of Means of Financial Support (required)
Digital Photo (required) Help
Optional Documents
Provided
Schedule 1 - Application for a Temporary Resident Visa Made Outside Canada
add any explanatory letter
 

ch.immigration

Hero Member
Feb 14, 2013
701
16
Category........
Visa Office......
islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
march 2013 for wife
Doc's Request.
Sent volunterily on 15 dec 2013
AOR Received.
april 2013
File Transfer...
april 2013
Med's Request
24 sep 2014
Interview........
inshallah waived
ch.immigration said:
Your document checklist
This is the list of documents you need to submit in order to apply. You cannot proceed until each file has been uploaded. Select the question mark button to learn more about each document.
Application Form(s)
Application for Visitor Visa (Temporary Resident Visa) Made Outside of Canada (IMM5257) (required)


Supporting Documents
Letter of Support (required)
Family Information (IMM5645) (required)
Itinerary, Travel (required)
Purpose of Travel - Other (required)
Passport or travel document (required)
Proof of Relationship (required)
Employment Reference Letter (required)
Invitation Letter (required)
Proof of Financial Resource of Supporter (required)
Proof of Income (required)
Proof of Means of Financial Support (required)
Digital Photo (required) Help
Optional Documents
Provided
Schedule 1 - Application for a Temporary Resident Visa Made Outside Canada
add any explanatory letter
1.wat should be attached in letter of support?
for my understanding it a letter of affidavit from father (as he is sponsor )

2.Itinerary travel
wat should i attach in this?
i have no ticket reservation....wat to do ?
if i leave blank i think it will not work

3.Purpose of travel
explanatory letter from wife (applicant)
it is a kind of cover letter of 2 pages
is it enough or anything else???
emloyment reference letter
what it means? a simple job letter to my understanding

4.Proof of Financial Resource of Supporter
providing father documents (job letter,bank statement,property paper,tax paper,saving certificates)
wat else???

5.proof of income
thats a confusion they have asked employment refrence letter and now this proof of income....
should it compulsory?or can i provide a letter resembling job letter stating income of wife?


6.proof of means of financial support
now it is same like proof of Financial Resource of Supporter...
so wat should i add here?

7.add explanatory letter
already provide in purpose of visit



plz all kind of suggestions are welcome as i m applying online for the first time
 

APAK

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Nov 7, 2012
377
5
Calgary
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa/islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
OCT 2012
File Transfer...
Transferred to ottawa in Nov 2012,transferred to ISB july 2013
LANDED..........
cannot wait!!
ch.immigration said:
1.wat should be attached in letter of support?
for my understanding it a letter of affidavit from father (as he is sponsor )

2.Itinerary travel
wat should i attach in this?
i have no ticket reservation....wat to do ?
if i leave blank i think it will not work

3.Purpose of travel
explanatory letter from wife (applicant)
it is a kind of cover letter of 2 pages
is it enough or anything else???
emloyment reference letter
what it means? a simple job letter to my understanding

4.Proof of Financial Resource of Supporter
providing father documents (job letter,bank statement,property paper,tax paper,saving certificates)
wat else???

5.proof of income
thats a confusion they have asked employment refrence letter and now this proof of income....
should it compulsory?or can i provide a letter resembling job letter stating income of wife?


6.proof of means of financial support
now it is same like proof of Financial Resource of Supporter...
so wat should i add here?

7.add explanatory letter
already provide in purpose of visit



plz all kind of suggestions are welcome as i m applying online for the first time
Did u go through their online checklist they give for every specific case after asking u a few questions. Answers every little detail to all your questions.
 

ch.immigration

Hero Member
Feb 14, 2013
701
16
Category........
Visa Office......
islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
march 2013 for wife
Doc's Request.
Sent volunterily on 15 dec 2013
AOR Received.
april 2013
File Transfer...
april 2013
Med's Request
24 sep 2014
Interview........
inshallah waived
APAK said:
Did u go through their online checklist they give for every specific case after asking u a few questions. Answers every little detail to all your questions.
Thanks APAk
After going through the eligibility check
I got this list
But its making me confuse
I m not sure abt certain things
Specially highlighted in red

I dnt want a refusal this time
Considering every single opinion

Thanks dear for your reply
 

APAK

Hero Member
Nov 7, 2012
377
5
Calgary
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa/islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
OCT 2012
File Transfer...
Transferred to ottawa in Nov 2012,transferred to ISB july 2013
LANDED..........
cannot wait!!
ch.immigration said:
Thanks APAk
After going through the eligibility check
I got this list
But its making me confuse
I m not sure abt certain things
Specially highlighted in red

I dnt want a refusal this time
Considering every single opinion

Thanks dear for your reply
Ok I'm the wife(applicant). I was also confused in these three categories cz they r more ir lesa the same thing.

I put my Bank balance(which ill b takong with me to Canadá), my assets,property in proof of means of financial support.

Proof of financial resource of supporter: husbands Bank balance, home,Paystubs, t4

Proof of Incone: notice of assessment, job letters old n New, letter from employee

Y were u rejected?
 

APAK

Hero Member
Nov 7, 2012
377
5
Calgary
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa/islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
OCT 2012
File Transfer...
Transferred to ottawa in Nov 2012,transferred to ISB july 2013
LANDED..........
cannot wait!!
Also, for every category make one word/PDF file. I made one word file n pasted pics of everything they asked. Cz they only let u upload one file.

I would suggest u login mycic account.will give u a clearer understanding of the applying process n how to complete documentation.
 

ch.immigration

Hero Member
Feb 14, 2013
701
16
Category........
Visa Office......
islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
march 2013 for wife
Doc's Request.
Sent volunterily on 15 dec 2013
AOR Received.
april 2013
File Transfer...
april 2013
Med's Request
24 sep 2014
Interview........
inshallah waived
APAK said:
Ok I'm the wife(applicant). I was also confused in these three categories cz they r more ir lesa the same thing.

I put my Bank balance(which ill b takong with me to Canadá), my assets,property in proof of means of financial support.

Proof of financial resource of supporter: husbands Bank balance, home,Paystubs, t4

Proof of Incone: notice of assessment, job letters old n New, letter from employee

Y were u rejected?
Thanks for your answers
But the situation is different
She is being sponsored by her father
So i m not attaching anything from my end
She herself have no amount in the bank to show

So our whole focus is showing father's income and property in financial means of supporter
But then again the other similar category
Proof of means of financial Support

Seniors plz guide

Trv is rejected due to weak home ties,lack of funds no travel history
Last time we didnt show her job
This time we are showing her job thats 8 months old
Also showing assests of her father propery etc
May allah help us all
 

ch.immigration

Hero Member
Feb 14, 2013
701
16
Category........
Visa Office......
islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
march 2013 for wife
Doc's Request.
Sent volunterily on 15 dec 2013
AOR Received.
april 2013
File Transfer...
april 2013
Med's Request
24 sep 2014
Interview........
inshallah waived
APAK said:
Also, for every category make one word/PDF file. I made one word file n pasted pics of everything they asked. Cz they only let u upload one file.

I would suggest u login mycic account.will give u a clearer understanding of the applying process n how to complete documentation.
Yes i have converted all files into pdf
But i didnt merge them into one as i dnt know
Which bunch of files to put where ?