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legalfalcon

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Hi,

I received my updated GCMS notes today. My eligibility was previously "Passed" in my March 207 GCMS notes.
But now 11.2 EE MI has been cancelled as of May 207 and now by eligibility is marked as "Review Required".

Does anyone know what cause 11.2 EE MI to be cancelled and re calculated?

TImeline:
FSWO
AOR: 8 Feb, 2017
Medical Passed: 9 March, 2017
IP: 11 March, 2017
NA: 14 March, 2017
IP(2): 30 March, 2017
Was it "passed" or "recommended passed"?
 

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Passed.

In the March 2017 notes - on page 2 it was "Eligibility: Passed"

In the notes section, i could see:

NOTES: 25
Created Date: 2017/03/**
Created By: *****
Updated Date: 2017/03/**
Updated By: *****
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text:
**Officer's review** GCMS/FOSS: no adverse information FAMILY COMPOSITION SINGLE No prior relationship
or dependents declared Identity established via provided documents. EXPERIENCE -Satisfied Employment
documents reviewed R75 (2) MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS- satisfied R76 (1) SELECTION CRITERIA- POINTSsatisfied
SETTLEMENT FUNDS-satisfied A11.2 & SELECTION PASSED ADMISSIBILITY:
Criminality: PA: All police certificates on application received: NRT Meds passed and valid RPRF Paid

In the July 2017 notes, im not seeing anything in the "notes" section to explain why 11.2 was cancelled, or why it is "review required". The above officer review comments is still the last relevant comment.
 
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legalfalcon

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Passed.

In the March 2017 notes - on page 2 it was "Eligibility: Passed"

In the notes section, i could see:

NOTES: 25
Created Date: 2017/03/**
Created By: *****
Updated Date: 2017/03/**
Updated By: *****
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text:
**Officer's review** GCMS/FOSS: no adverse information FAMILY COMPOSITION SINGLE No prior relationship
or dependents declared Identity established via provided documents. EXPERIENCE -Satisfied Employment
documents reviewed R75 (2) MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS- satisfied R76 (1) SELECTION CRITERIA- POINTSsatisfied
SETTLEMENT FUNDS-satisfied A11.2 & SELECTION PASSED ADMISSIBILITY:
Criminality: PA: All police certificates on application received: NRT Meds passed and valid RPRF Paid

This is very strange. Never seen this before. The eligibility is done in two steps, first a program analyst will review and recommend passed, then an officer will confirm it. If you do not see two notes for eligibility, then it could be that eligibility was not confirmed and instead of writing recommended passed, it was simply recommended passed and not it is under review.

I wouldn't worry too much yet. When were your notes generated? If it was more than 3 weeks ago, you should order another set and by then you will see some progress.
 
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Sugar2016

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This is very strange. Never seen this before. The eligibility is done in two steps, first a program analyst will review and recommend passed, then an officer will confirm it. If you do not see two notes for eligibility, then it could be that eligibility was not confirmed and instead of writing recommended passed, it was simply recommended passed and not it is under review.

I wouldn't worry too much yet. When were your notes generated? If it was more than 3 weeks ago, you should order another set and by then you will see some progress.
Yes, i could see the analyst and officer review comments in the notes section in the March notes.

I received the updated notes today - showing requested date 07/05/2017. Will request another set of notes in a few weeks to check progress and perhaps also call CIC
 

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Hi legalfalcon,

I ordered my GCMS notes on 12th June and received them on 12th July. Notes were generated on 26th June. Below is the summary.Please help in understanding the process. Please note that i got the PPR on 6th July

Page 1:
Primary Office: CPC Ottawa
Secondary Office: CIO
Application Status Reason: In Progress

Page 2:
It has s.15(1) written on top right
Eligibility: Passed
Security:
Criminality: Passed
Medical: Passed
Final: Approved

Page 43: SECURITY (This page also has s.15(1) on top right
UCI #: *******
Family Name: ******
Given Name:
Type: Security

The above lines are repeated for spouse on same Page 43. Nothing more is mentioned

Page 47: Info Sharing
Type: Biographic
Partner: USA
Status: NRT
Matched Records: 0
Some more admin related details like create date etc. are given

The above details are captured for spouse as well

Page 48: Finalize Application
DOCUMENT ISSUANCE 1
Created Date: 19th May
Updated Date: 19th May

Document: Counterfoil / Vignette
Status: Not Started
Print Queue: PQ-****-****-*-Kuwait
Group # :
Printed By:
Printed Date:
Confirmed By:
Confirmed Date:
Sent By:


DOCUMENT ISSUANCE 2
Created Date: 19th May
Updated Date: 19th May
Document: COPR / CRP
Status: Not Started
Print Queue: PQ-***-****-*-NOT IN USE
Group # :
Printed By:
Printed Date:
Confirmed By:
Confirmed Date:
Sent By:

COPR
Created Date: 19th May
Updated Date: 19th May
Issued At: CPC Ottawa

Details of Page 48 repeated for Spouse

Page 75:
APPLICATION 1

It seems Secondary Office was added as Abu Dhabi on 19th May (The day my BG changed to IP)

APPLICATION 2
Field Name: Final
New Value: Approved
Updated Date: 19th May
Office : CPC Ottawa

APPLICATION 3
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated

APPLICATION 4
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started

APPLICATION 5
It seems Eligibility changed from Recommended Passed to Passed on 11th May

APPLICATION 6
It seems Criminality Passed on 17th Feb

Notes:
Date: 19th May
Officer review talks about Eligibility passed

Date: 23rd Feb
Case Analyst review recommends passed

Date: 17th Feb
Agent Review says R10 OK

I had called CIC on 19th June and they had confirmed my application was approved. Not sure when the security was done or was it needed at all.

Appreciate if you can help in understanding the process of my application so that in future we can guide others accordingly. Thanks for your time.
 

legalfalcon

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Hi legalfalcon,

I ordered my GCMS notes on 12th June and received them on 12th July. Notes were generated on 26th June. Below is the summary.Please help in understanding the process. Please note that i got the PPR on 6th July

Page 1:
Primary Office: CPC Ottawa
Secondary Office: CIO
Application Status Reason: In Progress

Page 2:
It has s.15(1) written on top right
Eligibility: Passed
Security:
Criminality: Passed
Medical: Passed
Final: Approved

Page 43: SECURITY (This page also has s.15(1) on top right
UCI #: *******
Family Name: ******
Given Name:
Type: Security

The above lines are repeated for spouse on same Page 43. Nothing more is mentioned

Page 47: Info Sharing
Type: Biographic
Partner: USA
Status: NRT
Matched Records: 0
Some more admin related details like create date etc. are given

The above details are captured for spouse as well

Page 48: Finalize Application
DOCUMENT ISSUANCE 1
Created Date: 19th May
Updated Date: 19th May

Document: Counterfoil / Vignette
Status: Not Started
Print Queue: PQ-****-****-*-Kuwait
Group # :
Printed By:
Printed Date:
Confirmed By:
Confirmed Date:
Sent By:


DOCUMENT ISSUANCE 2
Created Date: 19th May
Updated Date: 19th May
Document: COPR / CRP
Status: Not Started
Print Queue: PQ-***-****-*-NOT IN USE
Group # :
Printed By:
Printed Date:
Confirmed By:
Confirmed Date:
Sent By:

COPR
Created Date: 19th May
Updated Date: 19th May
Issued At: CPC Ottawa

Details of Page 48 repeated for Spouse

Page 75:
APPLICATION 1

It seems Secondary Office was added as Abu Dhabi on 19th May (The day my BG changed to IP)

APPLICATION 2
Field Name: Final
New Value: Approved
Updated Date: 19th May
Office : CPC Ottawa

APPLICATION 3
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated

APPLICATION 4
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started

APPLICATION 5
It seems Eligibility changed from Recommended Passed to Passed on 11th May

APPLICATION 6
It seems Criminality Passed on 17th Feb

Notes:
Date: 19th May
Officer review talks about Eligibility passed

Date: 23rd Feb
Case Analyst review recommends passed

Date: 17th Feb
Agent Review says R10 OK

I had called CIC on 19th June and they had confirmed my application was approved. Not sure when the security was done or was it needed at all.

Appreciate if you can help in understanding the process of my application so that in future we can guide others accordingly. Thanks for your time.
Usually the security is retracted and will not be visible as you see on Page 2 which has S15. Similarly other security related notes will be hidden too. The only thing which is later released is info sharing, which you see on Page 47, with the US.

The first few pages is your progress, last few is the actual notes which tell you what all has happened.

If you may have a specific question, please ask.
 

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Usually the security is retracted and will not be visible as you see on Page 2 which has S15. Similarly other security related notes will be hidden too. The only thing which is later released is info sharing, which you see on Page 47, with the US.

The first few pages is your progress, last few is the actual notes which tell you what all has happened.

If you may have a specific question, please ask.
Hi Legalfalcon,

Thanks for your reply. Based on my notes, i have the following questions. Appreciate if you could help with your inputs.

> Was my application approved on 19th May? If yes, why did i receive PPR only on 6th July

> As it reads COPR date as 19th May and there is a print queue, does it mean they took 1.5 months just to print the Confirmation letter or was the security still going on in the background?

> The security is blank, notes were generated on 26th June, however, application status says approved on 19th May. I am confused what all this means.

Please help. Thanks a lot.
 

legalfalcon

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Hi Legalfalcon,

Thanks for your reply. Based on my notes, i have the following questions. Appreciate if you could help with your inputs.

> Was my application approved on 19th May? If yes, why did i receive PPR only on 6th July

There is no explanation for this except that IRCC was just sleeping on it. Usually PPRs are issued in batches and there are significant delays in when PPRs are issued from the day the application is approved.

> As it reads COPR date as 19th May and there is a print queue, does it mean they took 1.5 months just to print the Confirmation letter or was the security still going on in the background?

CoPR is printed after the passport is submitted, that is why you see in queue.

> The security is blank, notes were generated on 26th June, however, application status says approved on 19th May. I am confused what all this means.

Security notes are always blanked out. If your application was approved, then the security was completed before than. Without the security is completed, an application is not approved.

Please help. Thanks a lot.
 
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After 65 Days since My AOR date ( 28th April ) I ordered GCMS notes in the first week of July. Hopefully, I will get it by the first week of August. My medical is not clear yet.Many people told that its not a good idea to order GCMS before passing medical.

What do you say legalfalcon ?
 

legalfalcon

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05-05-2016
After 65 Days since My AOR date ( 28th April ) I ordered GCMS notes in the first week of July. Hopefully, I will get it by the first week of August. My medical is not clear yet.Many people told that its not a good idea to order GCMS before passing medical.

What do you say legalfalcon ?
Many people have no idea about the law. Ordering GCMS and medicals are two entirely different things and one has no impact on other. When you order GCMS, your computer generated information is transmitted to you. It is not a physical file which is moved to another office and thus delay the processing.

I wonder where people get the info. Surely not form the Canadian immigration law
 

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Many people have no idea about the law. Ordering GCMS and medicals are two entirely different things and one has no impact on other. When you order GCMS, your computer generated information is transmitted to you. It is not a physical file which is moved to another office and thus delay the processing.

I wonder where people get the info. Surely not form the Canadian immigration law
Thanks a lot. I totally agree with your opinion. I will share my GCMS notes as soon as I get it .

Cheers !
 

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Hi legalfalcon,

I ordered my GCMS notes on 12th June and received them on 12th July. Notes were generated on 26th June. Below is the summary.Please help in understanding the process. Please note that i got the PPR on 6th July

Page 1:
Primary Office: CPC Ottawa
Secondary Office: CIO
Application Status Reason: In Progress

Page 2:
It has s.15(1) written on top right
Eligibility: Passed
Security:
Criminality: Passed
Medical: Passed
Final: Approved

Page 43: SECURITY (This page also has s.15(1) on top right
UCI #: *******
Family Name: ******
Given Name:
Type: Security

The above lines are repeated for spouse on same Page 43. Nothing more is mentioned

Page 47: Info Sharing
Type: Biographic
Partner: USA
Status: NRT
Matched Records: 0
Some more admin related details like create date etc. are given

The above details are captured for spouse as well

Page 48: Finalize Application
DOCUMENT ISSUANCE 1
Created Date: 19th May
Updated Date: 19th May

Document: Counterfoil / Vignette
Status: Not Started
Print Queue: PQ-****-****-*-Kuwait
Group # :
Printed By:
Printed Date:
Confirmed By:
Confirmed Date:
Sent By:


DOCUMENT ISSUANCE 2
Created Date: 19th May
Updated Date: 19th May
Document: COPR / CRP
Status: Not Started
Print Queue: PQ-***-****-*-NOT IN USE
Group # :
Printed By:
Printed Date:
Confirmed By:
Confirmed Date:
Sent By:

COPR
Created Date: 19th May
Updated Date: 19th May
Issued At: CPC Ottawa

Details of Page 48 repeated for Spouse

Page 75:
APPLICATION 1

It seems Secondary Office was added as Abu Dhabi on 19th May (The day my BG changed to IP)

APPLICATION 2
Field Name: Final
New Value: Approved
Updated Date: 19th May
Office : CPC Ottawa

APPLICATION 3
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated

APPLICATION 4
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started

APPLICATION 5
It seems Eligibility changed from Recommended Passed to Passed on 11th May

APPLICATION 6
It seems Criminality Passed on 17th Feb

Notes:
Date: 19th May
Officer review talks about Eligibility passed

Date: 23rd Feb
Case Analyst review recommends passed

Date: 17th Feb
Agent Review says R10 OK

I had called CIC on 19th June and they had confirmed my application was approved. Not sure when the security was done or was it needed at all.

Appreciate if you can help in understanding the process of my application so that in future we can guide others accordingly. Thanks for your time.
Hi, could you pl share info on ur bg changes? Was it ip2 when ur file got apporved (19may) or it was NA?
 
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I have a question to guys who recieved gcms recently,did you recieve your gcms notes generated close to your notes delivery dates or not