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Billoo3108

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Hi Legal Falcon,

I am 56 days into the process since AOR and MED passed and wanting to order GCMS notes from GET GCMS website but the site does not accept USD.

I therefore plan to order in INR however when doing so it shows a name of random person "Manmeet Singh Rai", which makes me doubt whether its safe to disclose my credit or bank details to this payment channel.

Would you know or confirm if this is a legit site to order GCMS ?https://www.getgcms.com/

Thanks
 

cansha

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Hi Legal Falcon,

I am 56 days into the process since AOR and MED passed and wanting to order GCMS notes from GET GCMS website but the site does not accept USD.

I therefore plan to order in INR however when doing so it shows a name of random person "Manmeet Singh Rai", which makes me doubt whether its safe to disclose my credit or bank details to this payment channel.

Would you know or confirm if this is a legit site to order GCMS ?https://www.getgcms.com/

Thanks
@legalfalcon is Manmeet Singh Rai :D
 

legalfalcon

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Hi Legal Falcon,

I am 56 days into the process since AOR and MED passed and wanting to order GCMS notes from GET GCMS website but the site does not accept USD.

I therefore plan to order in INR however when doing so it shows a name of random person "Manmeet Singh Rai", which makes me doubt whether its safe to disclose my credit or bank details to this payment channel.

Would you know or confirm if this is a legit site to order GCMS ?https://www.getgcms.com/

Thanks
If you are trying to make a payment from outside India in INR, or with an international card, the payment gateway will not allow it. International cards are accepted only fo payments in USD or CAD.

If your payment is declined, then you will need to contact your financial institution to verify the issue.

Since international corporations are not authorized to incorporate in India without the approval of the Reserve Bank of India, the Indian entity in India is working under my name, since I am a licensed lawyer in India, until the RBI clearance is granted.

If this would not have been legit, then your card would have been charged.

And if you continue to face the issue, please contact the financial institution that issued your the card, as to why it was declined.
 
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legalfalcon

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Mr Legalfalcon,

emails are not secure communication channel. Does your website service offer any secure methods of delivering the consent form? For instance, my online bank requested the latest copy of my driver license a few days ago. They emailed me a link to their upload page, where documents can be attached and sent using end-to-end encryption. Email do not provide this level of security by default, a special trusted channel would have to be established first, but this cannot be easily automated with hundreds of customers. Therefore, emails should never be used to ask for any sensitive/private information.
Emails are not encrypted. However, the payments are, and the servers of GET GCMS are maintained by Google. To read more on their encryption you can check here- https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6330403?hl=en
 

legalfalcon

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Dear @legalfalcon :

I have ordered my GCMS through getgcms.com on Oct 2nd 2018 and received it on Nov 1st 2018. Delivery was just on time! Following are the extracts from Page 1 and 2:

APPLICATION: Exxx xxxxxx
Created Date: 2018/03/29 08:20:50
Created By: EAIMEL
Updated Date: 2018/08/28 16:58:50
Updated By: AD19081
Primary Office: CPC-Ottawa
Secondary Office: Centralized Intake Office
App#: Exxx xxxxxx
App Status: Open
App Status Reason: In Progress
Submission Date: 2018/06/01
Ree d Date: 2018/06/02
Rec'd Via: On-line
Lock-In Date: 2018/06/02
Category: SW1-FED

ASSESSMENTS
Eligibility: Met
Security: Not Started
HIRV:
Criminality: Not Started
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed
Misrepresentation:
Info Sharing: Complete
Other Reqs:
Final:

APPLICATION ASSIGNMENT
Assigned To: RC-9515
Assigned By: JM01158
Due Date: 2018/09/28

After ordering GCMS on Oct 2nd, my status was updated to: “we are processing your Background check” on Oct 15th and received another ghost update on October 18th. Is it possible to assume at which stage my file is stuck now?

Also based on the above extracts, can you please tell that what are the chances of rejection? If everything goes smooth then how long it might gonna take to get the PPR mail based on current trend?

Based on your status as shown on page 2, your eligibility is met. You car read the concerned officer's notes in the last few pages on eligibility to see if it has been passed by an assistant / analyst or an officer. The eligibility takes place in 2 stages, first an assistant will review and make a recommendation, and then an officer will make a final determination.

The eligibility is the most crucial stage or the EE process, and if you are through, i.e. if your eligibility is passed by an officer, then your chances of rejection are next to zero, barring any issues with security.
 
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legalfalcon

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@legalfalcon Dear legalfalcon, since in my GCMS notes it was mentioned by case officer "Review Required" for "Insufficient evidence of job duties as per NOC" following that I have submitted revised proof of work exp. which has clear details of job duties matching with the NOC. On Oct 25 I have got their acknowledgment email as well stating they have received the doc.

Please advise what should be my next step from here since online application status has not changed and not sure how much time it takes.

Thanks again!

Regards.
As per the mandatory documents, your reference letter should have the job duties, and the job duties should substantially match the job duties for the NOC code you have selected.

If the job duties are an issue, then the officer concerned will make a final determination on whether you meet the eligibility requirement. Further, if you sent a new document, whether it will be taken on record and considered, depends on the discretion of the officer reviewing your file. It takes 3-5 weeks before your documents sent via CSE can be added to your file and reviewed.
 
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legalfalcon

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12-04-2016
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Grateful for your prompt response. What about the eligibility? Is it confirmed I have passed the eligibility? May I know at what stage Schedule A is being asked?

Thanks in advance
Sch A is usually asked to initiate your BGC, and at the end stage of your eligibility.

See your GCMs notes to see if your eligibility is passed, or just recommended passed by an assistant or an analyst.
 

Billoo3108

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If you are trying to make a payment from outside India in INR, or with an international card, the payment gateway will not allow it. International cards are accepted only fo payments in USD or CAD.

If your payment is declined, then you will need to contact your financial institution to verify the issue.

Since international corporations are not authorized to incorporate in India without the approval of the Reserve Bank of India, the Indian entity in India is working under my name, since I am a licensed lawyer in India, until the RBI clearance is granted.

If this would not have been legit, then your card would have been charged.

And if you continue to face the issue, please contact the financial institution that issued your the card, as to why it was declined.
Thanks for your prompt response. I was trying to pay in USD yesterday through DISCOVER/VISA card but did not accept it . Will try again today.

Thanks!
 

legalfalcon

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03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
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12-04-2016
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Thanks for your prompt response. I was trying to pay in USD yesterday through DISCOVER/VISA card but did not accept it . Will try again today.

Thanks!
If your transaction is declined, then you will need to contact your financial institution. In most cases that is where the issue is. For USD, if one payment gateway does not work, you can try paypal.
 

Billoo3108

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Sep 22, 2017
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If you are trying to make a payment from outside India in INR, or with an international card, the payment gateway will not allow it. International cards are accepted only fo payments in USD or CAD.

If your payment is declined, then you will need to contact your financial institution to verify the issue.

Since international corporations are not authorized to incorporate in India without the approval of the Reserve Bank of India, the Indian entity in India is working under my name, since I am a licensed lawyer in India, until the RBI clearance is granted.

If this would not have been legit, then your card would have been charged.

And if you continue to face the issue, please contact the financial institution that issued your the card, as to why it was declined.
Hi Mr Legal Falcon,

I submitted request for GCMS notes today. My spouse would not be accompanying me in the move if the PR is received, however I had to add his details in the application because we are married.

In GCMS consent form, I am asked to provide spouse's signature because I checked a box while submitting GCMS notes which required me to indicate if spouse is added to the application.

I am the principal applicant and spouse will not accompany to Canada as of now, so do I still need to provide his signatures in the consent form to fetch status update on my application ?

Thanks!
 

legalfalcon

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01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi Mr Legal Falcon,

I submitted request for GCMS notes today. My spouse would not be accompanying me in the move if the PR is received, however I had to add his details in the application because we are married.

In GCMS consent form, I am asked to provide spouse's signature because I checked a box while submitting GCMS notes which required me to indicate if spouse is added to the application.

I am the principal applicant and spouse will not accompany to Canada as of now, so do I still need to provide his signatures in the consent form to fetch status update on my application ?

Thanks!
Yes, you will need to provide your spouse's consent to obtain the spouse's information on the GCMS notes. If you do not provide your spouse's signature, his / her information will be retracted.

Even when a spouse is non-accompanying they have to clear medicals, criminality and security. If a family member (accompanying or not) is inadmissible based on medicals, criminality or security, the entire family is inadmissible.
 

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Hi Legalfalcon! I had received CBSA notes a few days ago, and it said my medicals were passed-expired. And 2 days ago I received GCMS notes but there my medicals changed from “passed” to “not started”. My medicals did indeed expire as my file has been under processing for 17 months now. Any idea why the status would be different in both notes?
Another question is that almost every few months, CIC changed my secondary visa office on GCMS. It’s kinda weird, but in the last change, they changed it from a random visa office in a country I’ve never been to, to the visa office in my current country of residence. My primary visa office hasn’t changed though. I want to be optimistic and think thay they did this in anticiption of me wanting to submit my passport for COPR in the visa office in my country of residency, but if you have any clue on why they would change it please let me know :) thanks!
 

legalfalcon

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Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon
Hi Legalfalcon! I had received CBSA notes a few days ago, and it said my medicals were passed-expired. And 2 days ago I received GCMS notes but there my medicals changed from “passed” to “not started”. My medicals did indeed expire as my file has been under processing for 17 months now. Any idea why the status would be different in both notes?
Another question is that almost every few months, CIC changed my secondary visa office on GCMS. It’s kinda weird, but in the last change, they changed it from a random visa office in a country I’ve never been to, to the visa office in my current country of residence. My primary visa office hasn’t changed though. I want to be optimistic and think thay they did this in anticiption of me wanting to submit my passport for COPR in the visa office in my country of residency, but if you have any clue on why they would change it please let me know :) thanks!
If your Medicals are over a year old, they will expire. However, IRCC has the discretion to renew them for another year. Even you can request it and in some cases they do renew it for another year. But, this is discretionary. The status you see in the CBSA and GCMS notes, is pretty much the same. CBSA has no role in the Medicals, so if the notes are issued on different dates, see which one was the most recent and that will be you status. "Not started" and expired is pretty much the same, except that in not started, IRCC may have intended to send you a new med request, which usually they do after Security has come to an end, which is an indication that PPR is close.

There is no need to worry about the VO. It is irrelevant. As long as your application is progress, that is all that matters. IRCC will change VOs for many reasons. Form administrative, to specialized resources, to seek specific information. I would not worry too much about it.
 
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@legalfalcon
I got my second set of Gcms notes from getgcms today,I am 6 April 2018 applicant from India and my Eligibility,Criminality,Infosharing ,Security etc is passed on 18 May 18.

Following are my spouse details which are delaying our case
1)-My spouse Security is ongoing (started on 18 Sept 18) ,(3 Activities are blank 12,13 14 before security activities no-15) and S(15)1 on top of page???
2) Info sharing is complete/passed on 05 sept 18 (took 4 months as there was Usa refusal),
3)-criminality -Not started.

My question is that does it looks like my spouse is in Security screening or it is normal to have 3 blank activities and s(15)1
How can one know that he is in Security screening??i got this questions answer no where,plz suggest and it can also help others too.
I Tried to call Ircc few times but they did not gave any satisfactory answer.
How much time it can take to get our ppr.
Thanks and regards
 

legalfalcon

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App. Filed.......
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01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hlo
@legalfalcon
I got my second set of Gcms notes from getgcms today,I am 6 April 2018 applicant from India and my Eligibility,Criminality,Infosharing ,Security etc is passed on 18 May 18.

Following are my spouse details which are delaying our case
1)-My spouse Security is ongoing (started on 18 Sept 18) ,(3 Activities are blank 12,13 14 before security activities no-15) and S(15)1 on top of page???
2) Info sharing is complete/passed on 05 sept 18 (took 4 months as there was Usa refusal),
3)-criminality -Not started.

My question is that does it looks like my spouse is in Security screening or it is normal to have 3 blank activities and s(15)1
How can one know that he is in Security screening??i got this questions answer no where,plz suggest and it can also help others too.
I Tried to call Ircc few times but they did not gave any satisfactory answer.
How much time it can take to get our ppr.
Thanks and regards
To read on s15 and s16 see
https://www.getgcms.com/blog/s15-s16-top-right-gcms-denote/


All GCMS notes will have some information retracted under s16 and s16.

As regards security, there will be total of 4 activities, that will be there, but these will be retracted in the GCMS notes. Only CBSA notes will show these activities. As soon as you have all 4, your application has passed security. Based on what you stated, that you already have 4, you are very close.

To know exact details, you will need CBSA and CSIS notes.

But I feel you are almost there, and PPR should come soon.