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Alberta Health Care with Visitor Record

little_apple

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Jun 11, 2013
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Visa Office......
Vienna/Austria
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 20, 2013
Doc's Request.
June 4, 2013 & February 18, 2014
AOR Received.
May 5, 2013
File Transfer...
May 27, 2013
Med's Done....
April 4, 2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
exempt
VISA ISSUED...
April 17, 2014
LANDED..........
in Calgary since March 29, 2012. Landed as PR May 3, 2014
I've been in Canada for almost two years now thanks to two work permits. My current work permit expires in the end of March . My PR (outland) is not approved yet so I applied for a visitor record which is valid until the end of September 2014.

I wrote a letter to Alberta Health Care explaining my situation and included a copy of my visitor record but a coverage was refused.

I read many times on this forum that you can get Alberta Health Insurance with a visitor record.

Can someone tell me what I did wrong?
 

Harju

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Apr 4, 2010
197
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Visa Office......
Seoul
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12/09/2010
AOR Received.
25/10/2010
Passport Req..
02/11/2011
VISA ISSUED...
28/11/2011
LANDED..........
31/12/2011
AHC will be granted to visitors on a case by case basis. Did you provide proof of your PR application and proof of acceptance of the sponsor? Their website implies that they only grant coverage to visitors with PR apps where a "positive first decision" has been received. I do not know if this means approval of the sponsor or approval in principle for an inland app. Maybe someone else with some practical experience can help.


http://www.health.alberta.ca/AHCIP/temporary-residents.html
 

Ponga

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Oct 22, 2013
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Harju said:
AHC will be granted to visitors on a case by case basis. Did you provide proof of your PR application and proof of acceptance of the sponsor? Their website implies that they only grant coverage to visitors with PR apps where a "positive first decision" has been received. I do not know if this means approval of the sponsor or approval in principle for an inland app. Maybe someone else with some practical experience can help.


http://www.health.alberta.ca/AHCIP/temporary-residents.html
Approval of sponsor is AIP.
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
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1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
little_apple said:
I read many times on this forum that you can get Alberta Health Insurance with a visitor record.

Can someone tell me what I did wrong?
In Alberta a dependent (definition which includes spouse) of an Albertan resident can be eligible for heatlhcare. So did you apply as dependent of your spouse with all their relevant info, or independently?
 

little_apple

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Jun 11, 2013
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Calgary
Category........
Visa Office......
Vienna/Austria
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 20, 2013
Doc's Request.
June 4, 2013 & February 18, 2014
AOR Received.
May 5, 2013
File Transfer...
May 27, 2013
Med's Done....
April 4, 2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
exempt
VISA ISSUED...
April 17, 2014
LANDED..........
in Calgary since March 29, 2012. Landed as PR May 3, 2014
I applied independently with visitor record and proof of PR app in process.
I'll now try to get coverage as common-law under my partner's number
 

Harju

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Apr 4, 2010
197
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Visa Office......
Seoul
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12/09/2010
AOR Received.
25/10/2010
Passport Req..
02/11/2011
VISA ISSUED...
28/11/2011
LANDED..........
31/12/2011
little_apple said:
I applied independently with visitor record and proof of PR app in process.
I'll now try to get coverage as common-law under my partner's number
Please be aware that the definition of "common law" for AHC is different from definition for Immigration purposes.

http://www.health.alberta.ca/AHCIP/status-changes.html#marriage
 

little_apple

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Jun 11, 2013
824
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Calgary
Category........
Visa Office......
Vienna/Austria
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 20, 2013
Doc's Request.
June 4, 2013 & February 18, 2014
AOR Received.
May 5, 2013
File Transfer...
May 27, 2013
Med's Done....
April 4, 2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
exempt
VISA ISSUED...
April 17, 2014
LANDED..........
in Calgary since March 29, 2012. Landed as PR May 3, 2014
Harju said:
Please be aware that the definition of "common law" for AHC is different from definition for Immigration purposes.

http://www.health.alberta.ca/AHCIP/status-changes.html#marriage
Thanks. I talked to AHCIP yesterday and they said because we haven't lived together for 3 years, we can bring a common-law agreement instead.
My friend didn't need anything as a proof and they've just been together for 15 months. It seems like I'm having a phase of bad luck at the moment ;)
 

ghunter

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Feb 4, 2013
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Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-04-2013
AOR Received.
03-05-2013
File Transfer...
16-05-2013
Med's Done....
05-03-2013
VISA ISSUED...
19-10-2013; re-issued 16-12-2013
LANDED..........
08-01-2014
little_apple said:
Thanks. I talked to AHCIP yesterday and they said because we haven't lived together for 3 years, we can bring a common-law agreement instead.
My friend didn't need anything as a proof and they've just been together for 15 months. It seems like I'm having a phase of bad luck at the moment ;)
When my common law partner was waiting for approval after his IEC expired, he tried to get AB health Care as well. They flat out told us unless he has status as PR or a work permit, or had lived together for 3 years, there is no chance of getting health care. We tried to show our sponsor approval, and were told that this AIP provision is only for Inland applicants, as their AIP is much more than just sponsor approval.

I think, as with all things, the "my friend did it" comfort blanket can be dangerous and misleading - there are incompetent workers in all professions, including government (shocking, I know) and some people do slip through the cracks and get lucky - personally I would not rely on one success over multiple others having rejections/ what the definitions say. That's just me though.

Wouldn't a common law agreement in Alberta have to say that you have been in an Adult Interdependent Relationship for 3 years anyways? As far as I know they don't recognize other provinces or CIC's definition?
 

Harju

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Apr 4, 2010
197
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Category........
Visa Office......
Seoul
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12/09/2010
AOR Received.
25/10/2010
Passport Req..
02/11/2011
VISA ISSUED...
28/11/2011
LANDED..........
31/12/2011
ghunter said:
Wouldn't a common law agreement in Alberta have to say that you have been in an Adult Interdependent Relationship for 3 years anyways? As far as I know they don't recognize other provinces or CIC's definition?
If you have a written agreement you do not need to be living together for 3 years. From what I see it is 3 years or having a child from the relationship or a written agreement.