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tdguy

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::) Hey You all, I'm new here. The Question I have is this, can a spouse visa be denied just because of an age difference? I am 24 years old and my wife is 42. We have been together since 2011 and got married in 2015. We have been long distance since 2012, as she had to leave my country after her work permit expired. I think we have a ton of evidence, as we communicate every day and she comes to visit me for 3 months out of the year, every year since 2012. Our application was submitted with ; Passport Stamps showing visits since 2012, Long essay on development of relationship, 300 photos of us from 2011- 2015, excluding 150 pages of wedding photos ( we had a large wedding) 100 pages of fb chat, skype records, telephone records, email, whatsapp to name a few, accommodation for hotel stays weve had, movie stubs, dinner receipts, fb posting of communication since 2011- 2015, receipts for wedding rings, engagement rings, liquor , food, dress, etc all wedding expenses,honeymoon photos, tickets for a trip we planned for 2016 showing both our names etc... I was just wondering, how does it look? Only red flags I see is age difference, (18 years) none of her family came ( too busy with work etc)
 

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tdguy said:
::) Hey You all, I'm new here. The Question I have is this, can a spouse visa be denied just because of an age difference? I am 24 years old and my wife is 42. We have been together since 2011 and got married in 2015. We have been long distance since 2012, as she had to leave my country after her work permit expired. I think we have a ton of evidence, as we communicate every day and she comes to visit me for 3 months out of the year, every year since 2012. Our application was submitted with ; Passport Stamps showing visits since 2012, Long essay on development of relationship, 300 photos of us from 2011- 2015, excluding 150 pages of wedding photos ( we had a large wedding) 100 pages of fb chat, skype records, telephone records, email, whatsapp to name a few, accommodation for hotel stays weve had, movie stubs, dinner receipts, fb posting of communication since 2011- 2015, receipts for wedding rings, engagement rings, liquor , food, dress, etc all wedding expenses,honeymoon photos, tickets for a trip we planned for 2016 showing both our names etc... I was just wondering, how does it look? Only red flags I see is age difference, (18 years) none of her family came ( too busy with work etc)
I distinctly remember a post from someone who had a larger age difference than this and gave WAY less proof of relationship and was completely fine and got PR. I think your proof of relationship is quite a lot. It might even hold you back a wee bit, because they might have to make copies of everything or scan everything you send, I'm thinking. I don't see a problem honestly with this situation, especially with so much proof and that you're both adults who can make your own choices in relationships.
 

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My sponsor is over 20 years younger than me. Not a problem...
 

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Hey tdguy........ how are you doing. I dont think that age will be a problem for you because alot of ppl have hugh age gap between them and they get tru....but really and truly it depends on the immigration officer that dealing with your application. Some immigration officer will look past the age thing and some will make a fuss of it.. As long as you both lover each other you will be fine and make sure that you have alot of evidence to prove your relationship....But dont dwell on the age thing to much though
 

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Hey, tdguy.

So, technically, age difference of a large number is a red flag for the CIC, but it doesn't automatically mean that you'll be denied.

It sounds like you have ample evidence to prove your relationship, not to mention it is genuine. You've been together for 4 years. You're married. You spent money on rings, trips, etc. I'd be shocked if you were denied. Love doesn't take into consideration age, right?

If I can offer some advice, take advantage of the questions they ask about your relationship, how it unfolded, etc. The IMM forms will ask those questions and give you an option to continue to give explanations on another sheet of paper. I did just that. I explained how we met, why my family wasn't at our wedding, what we did to communicate when we were apart, etc.

I labeled those pages very clearly, and organized our application to include an index table of contents, and sectioned everything off using tab dividers. I included our call logs when we were apart (for a year). I had zero issues whatsoever. My spouse and I are 7 years apart, and we've spent a large chunk of time apart, too.

I also included everything you mentioned—wedding expenses, photos, tickets, call records, FB chat, etc. You're all set.

Here are some images I mentioned earlier:

<a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3303660/Application/Additional%20Pages.jpg">Additional pages format.</a>

<a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3303660/Application/Appendix-Screen-Shot.jpg">Appendix TOC.</a>

<a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3303660/Application/Proof-of-Relationship-Org.jpg">General Organization.</a>

If anything, sleep well knowing that they wouldn't deny your spouse PR without an interview or requesting additional proof first, but I think you'll be fine. Just take advantage of those spots on the IMM forms like I mentioned, and explain how your relationship unfolded. ;D
 

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Thank you you guys! I know that alot of people have large age differences etc, but most times its the guy who is older and not the other way around, I think they are a bit biased in terms of that. We do however have alot of proof, one of them being the fact that we waited four years before getting married etc is good. We have alot of communication evidence as we talk to each other every day since july 2011 (when shes not here) I aslo have a very good job, my wife has a masters degree and i am soon finishing my bachelors degree, neither of us is religious etc.... I am applying through the POS trinidad office
 

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just received COPR today....22 years age difference. The package had solid, but not extensive history/pictures/etc. and the only additional request was an police certificate from the RCMP. Applied outland and it only took 5 1/2 months.
 

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thats great news!! congratulations, but if i may ask, who was the older person? male or female?
 
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My good friend is 14 years younger then her partner, and they had 6 months relationship only they got approved in 2006. So I think you are going to be just fine.

Good luck

tdguy said:
::) Hey You all, I'm new here. The Question I have is this, can a spouse visa be denied just because of an age difference? I am 24 years old and my wife is 42. We have been together since 2011 and got married in 2015. We have been long distance since 2012, as she had to leave my country after her work permit expired. I think we have a ton of evidence, as we communicate every day and she comes to visit me for 3 months out of the year, every year since 2012. Our application was submitted with ; Passport Stamps showing visits since 2012, Long essay on development of relationship, 300 photos of us from 2011- 2015, excluding 150 pages of wedding photos ( we had a large wedding) 100 pages of fb chat, skype records, telephone records, email, whatsapp to name a few, accommodation for hotel stays weve had, movie stubs, dinner receipts, fb posting of communication since 2011- 2015, receipts for wedding rings, engagement rings, liquor , food, dress, etc all wedding expenses,honeymoon photos, tickets for a trip we planned for 2016 showing both our names etc... I was just wondering, how does it look? Only red flags I see is age difference, (18 years) none of her family came ( too busy with work etc)
 

Buletruck

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thats great news!! congratulations, but if i may ask, who was the older person? male or female?
Older male. It will all boil down to the proof you provide. Like I said, we didn't have tons of pictures (maybe 40), no chat or Txt ('cause I'm old and technology adverse), and spent the year of common law travelling with limited proof (passport stamps and flight schedules) to prove the relationship.....you'll be fine.
 

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Dragana said:
My good friend is 14 years younger then her partner, and they had 6 months relationship only they got approved in 2006. So I think you are going to be just fine.

Good luck
Different story. When the woman is younger it's not as unusual (I'm 16 years younger than my husband).

CIC looks at the application more closely when the man is significantly younger since this is atypical in most cultures.
 

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Age difference alone cannot lead to denial, however if CIC is not used to seeing such cases from your country, then you should expect greater scrutiny. Good luck !!


tdguy said:
::) Hey You all, I'm new here. The Question I have is this, can a spouse visa be denied just because of an age difference? I am 24 years old and my wife is 42. We have been together since 2011 and got married in 2015. We have been long distance since 2012, as she had to leave my country after her work permit expired. I think we have a ton of evidence, as we communicate every day and she comes to visit me for 3 months out of the year, every year since 2012. Our application was submitted with ; Passport Stamps showing visits since 2012, Long essay on development of relationship, 300 photos of us from 2011- 2015, excluding 150 pages of wedding photos ( we had a large wedding) 100 pages of fb chat, skype records, telephone records, email, whatsapp to name a few, accommodation for hotel stays weve had, movie stubs, dinner receipts, fb posting of communication since 2011- 2015, receipts for wedding rings, engagement rings, liquor , food, dress, etc all wedding expenses,honeymoon photos, tickets for a trip we planned for 2016 showing both our names etc... I was just wondering, how does it look? Only red flags I see is age difference, (18 years) none of her family came ( too busy with work etc)
 

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It also depends on your culture and whether it is common for men to marry women significantly older. If it's not common in your culture, be sure to address it upfront. It's sexist but CIC officers process applications keeping in mind the customs/norms of the region.

The other thing to keep in mind and address upfront is whether or not you wish to have children. If it's common in your culture for people to marry with the intention of also having a family, the officer would be paying attention to whether this is possible in your situation or not.
 

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A big age difference is certainly a red flag; a big age difference where the woman is the older one is even a bigger red flag. However, it is more of a problem for certain visa offices than others. In India, for example, apparently it is very uncommon for the wife to be even a few years older than the husband, so such cases get extra scrutiny.

But they would never refuse someone just because of an age difference. They would have to have other reasons as well. If there is an interview, you must explain that you two have discussed the age difference and that it does not matter to you. You should also be prepared for questions about children. The visa officer will expect you two to have discussed this and to agree on it: for example, if you both state you don't want kids, that's fine. If you both state you do want kids, are trying, and if that doesn't work you will look into adopting, that's fine too - the visa officer just wants to know that you two are in agreement.

In addition, the way to reduce the problems that might arise because of an age difference is to include more evidence that you have a genuine relationship in the application. You seem to have done that, so I think it should be OK.
 

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canadianwoman said:
A big age difference is certainly a red flag; a big age difference where the woman is the older one is even a bigger red flag. However, it is more of a problem for certain visa offices than others. In India, for example, apparently it is very uncommon for the wife to be even a few years older than the husband, so such cases get extra scrutiny.

But they would never refuse someone just because of an age difference. They would have to have other reasons as well. If there is an interview, you must explain that you two have discussed the age difference and that it does not matter to you. You should also be prepared for questions about children. The visa officer will expect you two to have discussed this and to agree on it: for example, if you both state you don't want kids, that's fine. If you both state you do want kids, are trying, and if that doesn't work you will look into adopting, that's fine too - the visa officer just wants to know that you two are in agreement.

In addition, the way to reduce the problems that might arise because of an age difference is to include more evidence that you have a genuine relationship in the application. You seem to have done that, so I think it should be OK.
Well I can say in the Caribbean it's common and that's where he's from "Trinidad " (Caribbean )
So he should be good :p