After 36 months: I go for Mandamus! Who else here has hired a lawyer?

[walitys]

Hi all,

big thanks to all, who sent me supportive comments and personal messages!

The Hearing was exhausting.
Mine lasted 1 h 40 min.. I was accompanied by a lawyer (I am the main applicant and wanted to strengthen our main position).
2nd family member's lasted 40 min.
3rd family member's - 50 min. (I was permitted to accompany them and to hand over documents)

The judge did not show much of emotion, but was reserved friendly. The judge did not give us any hints, if the decision will be positive or negative.
I had a suitcase full of documents. But the judge did NOT look at: OHIP, ATM printouts, bank & CC statements, statements of colleagues, printouts of e-mail exchange, photos (have you ever watched a "Green Card" movie?

The main focus was on 1) reading passport stamps, which did not come out well in xerox, 2) Notices of Assessment, 3) Memberships in professional organizations, 4) rental agreements, rental cheques.
The judge was making notes and asked for additional docs like COLOR copies of all passports and all copies of tax assessments for the relevant period of time. We were given 7 days to submit them.

My lawyer (funny, but my lawyer spoke to 7 other lawyers and no one has ever been to a hearing with a CJ - it is apparently NOT a common practice) was permitted to come in. The main purpose was to defend me, in case the Judge would behave in a prejudiced way. But the Judge was neutral, so there was no need for the lawyer to intervene.

The Judge told me, that the decision can be made within 60 days, but probably - as soon as the additional documents arrive, so it won't take "too long".
I personally do not think, the judge will wait: the Mandamus court date is approaching. I expect judge's decision next week.

Best of luck to all of you (and ourselves)!
I will keep you posted.

 

[nguyentu2001]

when submitting RQ, I was also ask to submit colour copies of all passport stamps so I used every high resolution scanner to make it clear.

It looks like things are going well with you and your family. Good luck with your application. Hopefully it will send soon in your favour.

 

[Feb2012]

Walitys:
Thank you very much for the precious info you are giving to all.

I wish you all the best for you and your family members.

 

[walitys]

Walitys:
Thank you very much for the precious info you are giving to all.

I wish you all the best for you and your family members.

Thank you for your good wishes, Feb2012. Good luck to you, too!

 

[ZYXWVU98]

hi, walitys, I thought when you submit RQ, notice of tax assessments, rental agreements should already been included in the documents you submitted with the RQ. the judge has checked the passport stamps with you in the hearing, why he still needs color copy of all passport pages? Thanks.

 

[allyp]

Walitys:

Best of luck to you. I am sure you will get a reply soon.

 

[walitys]

Hi ZYXW, as we got our RQs back in 2011 the necessity of submitting COLOR copies was NOT yet invented. Maybe it was just about to come up, but the creator of our RQ letters did not put it in writing. So I sent in b&w copies. We sent in a package for a family, where only ONE copy of rental agreement was included. Later ()or should I say recently) our three files got "processed" separately (do not ask me why) and the single copy of agreement was "assigned" to one applicant (labeling others as homeless?)... CICs logic is weird, but there is a system in it.
???

 

[walitys]

Walitys:

Best of luck to you. I am sure you will get a reply soon.

Thank you, allyp. I will get back to you. Soon, I hope
8)

 

[J.M.]

hi, walitys, I thought when you submit RQ, notice of tax assessments, rental agreements should already been included in the documents you submitted with the RQ. the judge has checked the passport stamps with you in the hearing, why he still needs color copy of all passport pages? Thanks.

As walitys mentioned above, the stamps did not come out very well in the black and white copies provided. I would assume the judge wants clearer photographs and color always looks nicer?

 

[Canadian2007]

hi Walitys,

Best wishes for you! however my question is, you seem to have concrete evidence of residence, so why would there be a shred of doubt that the decision can be negative? Judges have to make decisions based on evidence not whatever they think right!

 

[Newbie2014]

The Hearing was exhausting.
Mine lasted 1 h 40 min..
2nd family member's lasted 40 min.
3rd family member's - 50 min.

I'm surprised the interviews took so long given the already strong support which they require as part of the RQ (tax assessments, lease/mortgage agreements, health records). If it is not too personal, could you give us a general idea of what consumed so much time in the interview? Is it because the discussion was more along the lines of a conversation than an interrogation?

If it was a conversation-type of discussion, then it is understandable if alot of time passed just discussing mundane things like which soccer club your child plays in, etc. However, if it was a interrogation-type of discussion, then the judge must have asked very many questions for it to take that long.

 

[allyp]

The Judge told me, that the decision can be made within 60 days, but probably - as soon as the additional documents arrive, so it won't take "too long".
I personally do not think, the judge will wait: the Mandamus court date is approaching. I expect judge's decision next week.

Hi Walitys.

Hopefully, you should get a decision next week from the judge. Can you share when is your Mandamus court date?

 

[kimosabe]

Thanks for sharing, man. Looking forward to your update, and hopefully it's an "all's well that ends well" type of resolution. Good luck.

 

[egyo]

All the best!

 

[Akroom]

I do have a question when is the accepted time for me to writ a mandumus now i am on my 30 month after applying for the citizenship.will appreciate your answer.
also do any one know any good lawyer in montreal??? any suggestions???

thanks