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Jojii

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Okay, below is my opinion only. You know your situation well and only can take the correct decision.

1. 2 months for GMAT! It depends on individual basis. Some people ace the GMAT after a couple of weeks of preparation and some flunk it even after 6 month of prep. I am assuming you work full time so you only have evenings and weekends to prepare. 2 months may just be enough, but just! It depends on you and you only. How well do you think you can prepare. Your scores are good and it seems you are good student. So you should pace yourself. 550 will get you nowhere as far as good B. schools are concerned. You must aim for 700 plus scores to compensate for your relatively average academics scores.

2. "all the Univ for MBA are almost at the same Level (Govt. Funded ) in Canada ( EXCEPT the top tier 5-7 Univ )".

In my opinion Queens, Schulich, Rotman, Ivey, Sauder, Desautels are the first tier schools in Canada. Amongst which Rotman and Queens are the best. Then comes your Alberta, Haskayne, Dalhousie, Degroote, Telfer, Reyerson as second teir. I might have missed a couple but any school not in this list would most probably be a waste of your money in my opinion. I have spoken to several alumus from Rotman and schulich and even they face an uphill battle for jobs in Canada. Officially the schools say that employment rate is on an average 85% after 3 months of graduation but if you look at foreign students, the employment rate is less than 50% even after 6 months of graduation. So if this is how the top schools are faring, one can imagine what would happen to 3rd teir b.school graduates.... !!


What kind of budget constraints are you talking about? Most of these schools have a fee of about 60,000 CAD to 70,000 CAD except Rotman, which is at 100,000 CAD. But Rotman has a bank loan program for international students which brings it down to 47,000 CAD. I believe you are an indian, the world is open for you, I am telling you Indian are welcome everywher in the world at the moment. You just have to find the right path. A lot of canadian and american schools run bank (candian and american banks) programs which issue loans to only Indian students. You should check for all these options. Plus in India there are multitude of education loan programs available which are not available to us Pakistani students.

An MBA is a big investment. And you have to treat it such. As I told somebody else on this forum, forget about the finances as for now. Apply in the best schools that you think you can get in to. Once you have the admission, then go scourge for finances, get loans from banks, parents, sell you car, property etc. However you manage it, if the school is good enough it will all be worth it.

An MBA application is hell lot of an effort. As a rule of a thumb it can take 3 months for your GMAT, 2 months for you essays for application, 1 month for your reference letters etc and 1 month for putting it all together. You should only now aim to get into Fall 2014 MBA sessions if you want to get into best schools. (Leave the finances behind. when the time comes, it will be sorted out.)

Ofcourse the above paragraph doesn't hold if you are really really short on money. But I am thinking that you are not that short. You need to ask yourself what you want to do? what is it in which you can excel ? Would you be able to excel in MBA?

3."Even though my work profile is in IT , I can not go for Masters in those IT related specialization in which Loads of programming in JAVA or C++ are there as my B.tech was in Electronics and I have never been into Coding Area ( Current Role is Functional Inclined not Technical )"


Secondly you have also said you don't want a masters in computer and electrical / electronics fields. I can't help but saying that your choices would become very limited after that. The best I can think of is you can do masters in Engineering Management which is very similar to MBA but much cheaper. You can also trying looking at some of the Finance side fields if your experience is relevant.

I am sorry I can't give you much help regarding which course you should select because my field is completely different so my views are restricted. You should visit university websites and search for graduate programs and look at the courses they offer. It might have something which you may find interesting.

If you can find a book called "How to Get into the Top MBA Programs, by Richard Montauk" in your local book store. Buy it! Read it!! Twice!! Its the best amongst the 20 or so books I have read on this topic. It will tell you how to apply for a proper MBA program, what skills you will need and how to acquire them if you don't have them.

I usually don't bother answering to threads on this forum, but you seem like a genuine student from a good background. PM me your email address and I will try to send you some ebooks and MBA application material which will be quite helpful in informing you what an MBA is and help you decide if you should be doing it or not !!


P.S. ohh yeah, you are correct in not selecting Post graduate diploma. You should only go for masters. Much better employment prospects, much better chances for PR. Some of the provinces even have fasttrack PR programs for Masters and Phd graduates!!
 

LION717

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I really like to read posts from this guy not because they have infinite wisdom, but 'coz they are laid out in CAPS and are colourful at the same time :)

HE HE HE I M FUNNY GUY SOMETIME TRY TO BE LITTLE WISE TOO : :p

AND MY LIFE IS COLOURFUL SO I LIKE COLOURS LOL
 

sandeep1414

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I have same question. confused between canada and australia.

In australia i have cousin brother and real sister and i can get admission in masters in information technology in swinburne university but difficult Pr.

in canada i have difficulty finding program . but pr chances are great.

I have done b.tech in c.s.e and there are very few IT programs for january.

so i have choosed software engineering technology(fast track) from centennial college. but it is a advanced diploma althought graduate students will get direct admission in 3rd semester of three year program.

i also have offer letter for wireless information networking post grad from fleming college. but it is more related to electronics and i have little interest in that.

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b.tech c.s.e 73%

diploma c.s.e 59.5%

10th c.b.s.e 80.2%

ielts 7.5 bands


plz suggest which is better for me.
 

Jojii

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I hate it when people steal somebody else's thread. You have a question, start your own thread. Don't go jumping around in threads others have posted.
But it seems to be the norm here. I wish I were the moderator and could remove this post to create a separate thread. Also nobody seems to bother about being understandable. Your post has no structure whatsoever, its difficult even to comprehend what you're talking about?

Don't mind if I seem to harsh. I got really frustrated upon seeing your random post in a random thread. A request; if you could follow some basic online etiquettes that would be nice.

Cheers,

@ Moderate: Can we please remove the above post to make it a separate thread?


sandeep1414 said:
I have same question. confused between canada and australia.

In australia i have cousin brother and real sister and i can get admission in masters in information technology in swinburne university but difficult Pr.

in canada i have difficulty finding program . but pr chances are great.

I have done b.tech in c.s.e and there are very few IT programs for january.

so i have choosed software engineering technology(fast track) from centennial college. but it is a advanced diploma althought graduate students will get direct admission in 3rd semester of three year program.

i also have offer letter for wireless information networking post grad from fleming college. but it is more related to electronics and i have little interest in that.

profile

b.tech c.s.e 73%

diploma c.s.e 59.5%

10th c.b.s.e 80.2%

ielts 7.5 bands


plz suggest which is better for me.
 
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HBK

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mayank_6 said:
but again top notch Univ are expensive, I can not consider them because of my Budget Constraints.
and You are suggesting to go only in those 5-7 Top tier Univ :)

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Now If I should not go for MBA as per your suggestion not even in these Medium Univ ( which Require Work Ex and GMAT ) and I can not go for Masters because of the Stated concerns above, then what is left with me :(
Well!! have a look at Peter B. Gustavson School of Business..........

http://www.canadian-universities.net/MBA/University_of_Victoria.html


Fees is 30000$ for international students.

It's good school.
 

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this thread may help you
 

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Well again the small Roadblock is what is the point of getting 1 year of MBA only where I will be getting only 1 year Work Permit

I would like to go for 2 year of MBA in which 1st year MBA deals with generic Subjects and last year is specialization. Besides, 2 year Duration will give me 3 year of Work permit which would turn beneficial for PR

What do you think guys ??
 
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mayank_6 said:
Well again the small Roadblock is what is the point of getting 1 year of MBA only where I will be getting only 1 year Work Permit

I would like to go for 2 year of MBA in which 1st year MBA deals with generic Subjects and last year is specialization. Besides, 2 year Duration will give me 3 year of Work permit which would turn beneficial for PR

What do you think guys ??
Which 1 year MBA program you are talking about? I am not sure what you are talking about
 

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@HBK

There is nothing to not Understand it.

I am just saying that there are certain MBA Programs in many Univ which run for only 1 year ( 12-14 Month ) so I will be getting only 1 year Work permit rather than 3 years
 
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mayank_6 said:
@ HBK

There is nothing to not Understand it.

I am just saying that there are certain MBA Programs in many Univ which run for only 1 year ( 12-14 Month ) so I will be getting only 1 year Work permit rather than 3 years
Mr. mayank,

Then probably you are wrong. I always prefer to post with full sense,understanding and most importantly fact rather than opinion.

Even 1 year MBA program with 59 credit hours course will qualify you for 3 year work permit not 1 year work permit. It's not diploma/certificate program.

well i just posted link and price tag of Peter B. Gustavson School of Business just to let you know that it's 17 months program ( sure 3 year PGWP) and it has least tuition fees in whole canada. It's fees is less it doesn't mean it's not good school. In fact competition is too high in this school.

Still if you are thinking the tuition fees of Peter B. Gustavson School of Business is high then forget about doing MBA in canada.

Still if you have doubt then check the post of enfield in this thread. i quote it below.

With 1 year MBA, you will get a 3 years Post Graduate Work Permit (NOT 1 year). One year MBA is a very intensive program with around 55 to 59 credit hours, and it's good for those who are already well established in career/networking/skills. There is 'NO difference' between the content of 2 or 1 year MBA.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t96929.0.html

Rest is upto you buddy.I just posted the fact which you were not aware. that's it.
 

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@Harsh,

Bro, I am not doubting your capability for posting sensible Queries/info and Replying effectively.

I checked the same and Yes, it is quite less as compared to other Business programs in other B-Schools. Thanks for sharing it !

It is very good that even 1 year MBA can grant me 3 years of PGWP, I was not aware of this but then if I go for 2 year MBA Program then in 1st Year , I will be getting the flavour of all the Generic Areas and 2nd Year of MBA , Specialization would be taught which, in my view , would give me Proper and wide prospects in my learning Curve. What you think ??

Could you please look into the original post in this Thread and reply with the best of your knowledge over my Dilemma of : Masters in Engg management ( which I could find only in Univ of Ottawa , Masters of Global management from Royal Roads Univ OR MBA from middle/2-Tier univ

The most important Concern is whether I would be able to crack GMAT with acceptable Scores in 1 and half Month as by 15th Jan I have to give Exam otherwise Deadlines will be over for many univ.

Request you to be direct ( even if you are harsh :) ) and don't say that its entirely depends on your Calibre as I am just seeking your opinion.

If your answer is 'No' then I will be applying to Above mentioned Master Courses or Certain Course based Master Programs which do not constitute Coding/programming in their Subject modules and ready to take Students from non IT background ( Option limited but Not Nill )
 

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LION717 said:
Y DONT U GUYS GO TO USA

AMERICAN DREAM !!!!!!! BORAT ;D
America's culture is worst in whole world... You can't concentrate on your studies in USA.