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Additional document request after medicals done-Oct 2011 applications

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rambo2011

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Guys,
Some one explain what they are looking for ?

Documents Sent:Oct 7 2011
AOR received: Nov 9 2011
Medicals request: Nov 9 2011
Medicals done: Nov 18th 2011
ECAS updated: Medical results received-Dec 9th
Request for the below document: Dec 9th.....



Date: December 9, 2011


UCI: XXXXXXX
Application: EXXXXXXXXX


XXXXXX XXXXXX

Email: XXXXXX.XXXXXX



Dear XXXXXX XXXXXX:

This is in reference to your application for permanent residence in Canada. In order for us to continue the processing of your application, we require the following documents:

Ø Please provide an original letter from your employer addressed to us stating that you have fulfilled all obligations to them and that there will be no further financial or other cost to you should you become a permanent resident of Canada. This must be received at this office by: 01/09/2012


Please note:
All documents must be accompanied by English or French translations. When original documents are requested, notarised documents are not acceptable.

The above information/documents must be received in our office within 30 days from the date of this letter. Please quote your complete application number on your correspondence and address your correspondence to the address indicated below.

Thank you for the interest you have shown in Canada.





Case Processing Pilot - Ottawa | Centre de Traitement Pilote – Ottawa – 46
Citizenship and Immigration Canada | Citoyenneté et Immigration Canada
219 Laurier Avenue West Ottawa ON K1A 1L1 | 219 avenue Laurier Ouest
7th Floor | 7ème étage, Section B
Ottawa ON K1A 1L1 Canada
Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-946-6059
E-mail I Courriel : OttPilot-immigration @ cic.gc.ca
Disclaimer: By supplying your email address, you are initiating an email communication with CIC and thereby authorizing CIC to use your email address for communication with you including the transmission of personal information on your file/case.

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Désistement : En fournissant votre adresse électronique, vous établissez une communication par voie électronique avec CIC et, par conséquent, CIC est autorisé à utiliser l'adresse électronique fournie à cette fin, y compris pour la transmission de renseignements personnels au sujet de votre dossier/cas
 

sai_murthy

Hero Member
Aug 2, 2011
245
20
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
CCP-O
App. Filed.......
05-08-2011
AOR Received.
15-10-2011
File Transfer...
15-10.2011
Med's Request
15-10-2011
Med's Done....
19-10-2011
Interview........
Waivied
Passport Req..
06-12-2011
VISA ISSUED...
20-12-2011
LANDED..........
30-12-2011
Ø Please provide an original letter from your employer addressed to us stating that you have fulfilled all obligations to them and that there will be no further financial or other cost to you should you become a permanent resident of Canada. This must be received at this office by: 01/09/2012

Not sure what is the background of your employment terms & conditions.

From the letter, you posted. CIC is asking a letter from your employer, that , your employer do not have any objection on your PR appliation.
 
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rambo2011

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i work in a closed work permit as a permanent employee for the same employer (sep2009 to till date), many of my friends who work in the same company didnot get this step and got PR successfully under CEC category
 

jes_ON

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Jun 22, 2009
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Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
I can think of a couple of reasons why they may ask this -

One - did you come here as an intra-company transfer? In those situations, the employer typically pays moving expenses and other benefits (e.g. housing), in exchange for the agreed-upon term of work. If that term is violated (e.g. employee quits), then the employee may have to pay back some of those expenses - CIC wants to be sure you do not incur a debt.

Two - even if it is not an intra-company transfer, did you include a copy of your employment contract? If so, were there any similar terms that CIC should be concerned about? Did your employer finance your move to Canada?

Three - If your employer is not a private company but a quasi-official organization, and you owe some return-of-service?

Only you know if there was some type of agreement with your employer that CIC is concerned about. BTW - Just because your co-workers escaped this scrutiny does not mean they should have, or that the next applicant will.

If none of this applies or you still can't think of any reason why CIC would be concerned, you can:
1) Contact them and ask for clarification - it is possible there was some mistake.
2) Just do it. If your employer is supportive, just ask for this letter and submit it.
 
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rambo2011

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i work in intra-company transfer in a closed work permit, i have sent the employment contract ( overseas deputation agreement document) to CPP-Ottawa today, eagerly waiting for the reply from CIC.
 

jes_ON

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Jun 22, 2009
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Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
rambo2011 said:
i work in intra-company transfer in a closed work permit, i have sent the employment contract ( overseas deputation agreement document) to CPP-Ottawa today, eagerly waiting for the reply from CIC.
Hmm... why did you send them that? That is not what they requested...
 

cecapp369

Star Member
Dec 16, 2011
138
8
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-05-2012
Doc's Request.
18-01-2013
AOR Received.
28-08-2012
IELTS Request
sent with app
Med's Request
23-04-2013
Med's Done....
30-04-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
14-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
06-09-2013
LANDED..........
22-09-2013
That is what requested in my case too and even I am thinking to sending that Overseas deputation Agreement document which states the agreement between me and my employer when I am onsite.

Please share your results once you have received an update. As the other sr member mentioned to NOT to send that, I would be waiting for your update before I proceed with sending the same in my case.

Mine is also an Intra-Company transfer and closed WP. However, i have no financial obligations If I receive my PR. Can I also mention them all these facts?

Please advise
 

sweetakash

Star Member
Sep 24, 2011
100
2
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo - Transferred to Ottawa CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-SEP-2011
AOR Received.
8-NOV-2011
File Transfer...
8-NOV-2011
Med's Request
8-NOV-2011
Med's Done....
28-NOV-2011
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
04-JAN-2012
VISA ISSUED...
10-JAN-2012
LANDED..........
10-JAN-2012
Hello cecapp369, rambo2011,

This type of document/declaration request seems to be something totally new demand from CIC.

I searched both Canada Visa and Trackitt forums to find any similar cases, but there are none.
I have seen doc requests reference letters or job description letters or tax (T4) etc being asked for, but nothing like this.
Looks like they have recently changed some rules or added some additional docs of this nature.

Can you please specify from your eCAS status, when exactly they started processing your application?
 

sai_murthy

Hero Member
Aug 2, 2011
245
20
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
CCP-O
App. Filed.......
05-08-2011
AOR Received.
15-10-2011
File Transfer...
15-10.2011
Med's Request
15-10-2011
Med's Done....
19-10-2011
Interview........
Waivied
Passport Req..
06-12-2011
VISA ISSUED...
20-12-2011
LANDED..........
30-12-2011
Looks like it is a new demand.

Also, check from your company Intranet Site, like, if you can disclose "Overseas deputation Agreement document" to anyone or not.

Because, sometimes CIC will do background verification with employer.
 

jes_ON

VIP Member
Jun 22, 2009
12,091
1,421
Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
I didn't say you SHOULDN'T send the agreement, I simply said that is not what CIC requested. They want a letter from your employer, with a current date, stating that there are no financial or other obligations. There is a world of difference between that and an original employment agreement.

If you don't give them what they ask for, or at least demonstrate your efforts to get it, chances are your application will be rejected.
 

cecapp369

Star Member
Dec 16, 2011
138
8
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-05-2012
Doc's Request.
18-01-2013
AOR Received.
28-08-2012
IELTS Request
sent with app
Med's Request
23-04-2013
Med's Done....
30-04-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
14-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
06-09-2013
LANDED..........
22-09-2013
Hi Rambo,

I have a msg from in my inbox, but not sure how to reply that. Thats why I am posting the reply here for your question

hi,

did you get any reply from CEC ? did they accept your explanation?
I haven't send the requested document yet ( No fin obligation letter). I am actually waiting to hear from you on your status as you have already sent the deputation letter. Please share your results with me when you get an update.

Thanks
 

cecapp369

Star Member
Dec 16, 2011
138
8
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-05-2012
Doc's Request.
18-01-2013
AOR Received.
28-08-2012
IELTS Request
sent with app
Med's Request
23-04-2013
Med's Done....
30-04-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
14-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
06-09-2013
LANDED..........
22-09-2013
Hi Rambo,

I am planning to send the letter mentioned below for their query on "No financial obligation letter from Employer"... please share your thoughts...

Dear Sir,

In regards to the query that I have received on Dec 17th, pertaining to my Permanent Residency Application number XXXX, I would like to inform you that So and So Ltd do not provide any support for their employees in filing for their Permanent Residence and from seeking immigration. However, SO AND SO Ltd do not hold any employee financially and legally liable in case he/she applies and obtains immigration from Canada. In support of the above mentioned, I have attached a Deputation Agreement signed between I and SO AND SO Ltd which governs my employment, visa status and terms & conditions in Canada. Herein the agreement, SO AND SO has never mentioned any objection for an employee applying for immigration. Hence, my current employer is legally/financially not objectionable if I obtain a Permanent Residence. I request you to kindly consider my request and further process my application. Should you have any questions then please feel free to contact me.

Does this sound OK?
 
R

rambo2011

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cecapp369 said:
Hi Rambo,

I am planning to send the letter mentioned below for their query on "No financial obligation letter from Employer"... please share your thoughts...

Dear Sir,

In regards to the query that I have received on Dec 17th, pertaining to my Permanent Residency Application number XXXX, I would like to inform you that So and So Ltd do not provide any support for their employees in filing for their Permanent Residence and from seeking immigration. However, SO AND SO Ltd do not hold any employee financially and legally liable in case he/she applies and obtains immigration from Canada. In support of the above mentioned, I have attached a Deputation Agreement signed between I and SO AND SO Ltd which governs my employment, visa status and terms & conditions in Canada. Herein the agreement, SO AND SO has never mentioned any objection for an employee applying for immigration. Hence, my current employer is legally/financially not objectionable if I obtain a Permanent Residence. I request you to kindly consider my request and further process my application. Should you have any questions then please feel free to contact me.

Does this sound OK?
i still didnot get any update from CIC when i submitted the ODA agreement document, waiting for reply from CIC. You can send this mail and wait for the reply from cic.
 

cecapp369

Star Member
Dec 16, 2011
138
8
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-05-2012
Doc's Request.
18-01-2013
AOR Received.
28-08-2012
IELTS Request
sent with app
Med's Request
23-04-2013
Med's Done....
30-04-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
14-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
06-09-2013
LANDED..........
22-09-2013
Hi Rambo2011,

Let me know if you receive any reply from them for the deputation agreement. I haven't sent yet as I would like to proceed based on the response you will receive. As I have another 15 more days to send this, I will be waiting for your reply.

Thank you,
CECAPP369
 
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rambo2011

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This is the reply from CIC for sending the ODA (contracts), since my company cannot provide the requested document.

We will consider the information you have provided along with the fact that you are unable to provide us with the document we have requested of you, and we will advise you shortly as to our decision. I should point out to you that failure to comply with our requests may result in the refusal of your application.