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Babi22

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Hi Guys,

I'm about to request the information form CIC about my citizenship application,

Should I request through Access to Information Act or Privacy Act ?

Should I order email or CD ?

I guess the "Type of records" is : Case file ?

Notes in Electronic file or Physical file ?

Thanks.
 

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Too early in processing for anything useful from the ATIP report
 

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cprak0 said:
Too early in processing for anything useful from the ATIP report
I can understand,

However quite strange that my application is in process at Sydney since 2 months now with no progress. Wondering about this as when you compare to other applicants most of them get transferred to local office after few days/weeks. My wife app (last January) spent 4 weeks in Sydney before it got transferred...

Will I be able to see of anything is wrong with my appication in the ATIP/Privacy Act ?
 

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Still your application is not 6 month old needless to apply for atip wait for another

few months than check..
 

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Babi22 said:
I can understand,

However quite strange that my application is in process at Sydney since 2 months now with no progress. Wondering about this as when you compare to other applicants most of them get transferred to local office after few days/weeks. My wife app (last January) spent 4 weeks in Sydney before it got transferred...

Will I be able to see of anything is wrong with my appication in the ATIP/Privacy Act ?
I applied for ATIP Jun1 and eventually got the report on aug1 coz they had some issues. I applied just coz there seemed to be nothing happening, but June 16 ecas said processing started and the transfer to local office on June 23.
ATIP just confirmed that and that its in Ottawa, RCMP clearance passed but little else.
Nothing about triage value or csis clearances... Theses are just whited out...
So nothing much to know at this stage really
 

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What about Privacy Act ? Can we get any usefull information in it if I order it ? Did you guys order by email and to receive electronic files ? Will there be any other information in the Physical file if I order it ?
 

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Babi22 said:
Hi Guys,

I'm about to request the information form CIC about my citizenship application,

Should I request through Access to Information Act or Privacy Act ?

Should I order email or CD ?

I guess the "Type of records" is : Case file ?

Notes in Electronic file or Physical file ?

Thanks.
For starters, some vocabulary:


ATIP - Access to Information and Access to Privacy Acts which include provisions that enable individual to request government records, and in case of many citizenship applicants - copies of their immigration and citizenship files.

GCMS - Global Case Management System - a portal used internally by CIC to track case progress of each file. This is also referred to in CIC documentation as electronic files.

Electronic Files - record of each application's progress as documented in CIC's internal Global Case Management System.

Paper Files - refers to copies of the actual paper application/binder that constitutes one's application, including all information submitted initially and subsequently (such as RQ responses).

Process Overview
In many cases, when there has not been an update on your application, you may want to request a copy of your case progress report. You have two routes to take in doing so - request is via the Access to Information or the Access to Privacy Acts. The key difference is that requests made under Access to Information Act can apply to either individual files, or some other government information you may want to access. Making requests under the Access to Information option will also cost you $5.00.

Submitting your request
1. To make an ATIP request please visit: https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/

2. Once you consent to the privacy notice, make sure you select and fill in appropriate information. The last question on page 1 of the form will ask you how you would like to receive your files. You have two options: by email to the email address you provided, or on a CD delivered to your specified address. This is purely a matter of preference.

3. The following page will ask you to select the Act under which you are making a request: Privacy Act (if requesting info about your own case) or Information Act (if requesting any other type of CIC related information).

4. When asked "Which Types of Records Do You Wish To Request" select case files.

Physical Files or Electronic Files?
The last question on this page will ask you "What Type of Information Would You Like To Request?". You have two options: notes in electronic file or physical file. As mentioned in the definitions above, the physical file will be a scanned copy of your physical application and any other correspondence that may have been exchanged between you and the CIC - it's the actual binder that is sitting in CIC's files waiting to be processed. As such, it likely won't show you much new information and may somewhat delay processing since the file needs to be taken out of the queue, scanned and put back.

For most folks getting the notes in the electronic file is likely the most satisfying option since it will show your file's progress and any notes that may have been entered by CIC staff.

Once you make your selections and submit your request, it should take anywhere between 4-6 weeks for the information to arrive either in your mailbox or inbox.

Repercussions
From what we have seen, there have not been any procedural drawbacks or repercussions to ordering one's own case notes or physical file copies. The only drawback I can think of is the slight delay in that scanning a physical file may add to the processing of an application that otherwise is on a fast-track or within the prescribed normal processing times.

For those who have received RQs, getting copies of these files is almost crucial - to understand exactly what is going on with the application and to further prepare for meetings with judges or other legal proceedings.

It's worth noting that in some cases making a request for copies of your physical file can stir CIC into action, as was the case with one member's application on this forum (can't remember who), who made the request and as a result of having to touch her file the CIC realized that it was in the wrong pile.

Good Luck!