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A question about job titles and work history

ellia

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Hi all, could you please advise me in this situation:
I have worked with the same employer for 4 years, performing the same duties that correspond to my education and to my NOC.
However, due to how employment works in my field in my country, my job titles changed through the years three times, and not one of them corresponds to my NOC.
I know that the job title doesn't matter as long as the job duties match, but how do I enter my three job titles in the work history section of the e-APR, as three separate entries, or only one? If I choose three separate entries, the system wants proof of employment for each of them, but I only have one reference letter for all of them together, that states that I have been employed for four years, my job titles were "1", "2", "3", and in all of them my job duties were "...". Do I submit that letter three times, for each job title?
 

joelmath

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If your job duties did not change significantly and match the selected NOC from start to beginning then you can submit your work experience as 1 entry with 1 of the titles. You can explain everything through an LOE and hopefully your job reference letter contains all the info that will help VO in connecting the dots.. Its just my take on your situation. You can also do what you suggested in your question "submit that letter three times, for each job title". I dont think this issue should cause any rejection if situation is explained properly and supported with letter from employer.
 

ellia

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Thank you for the opinion, joelmath!
 

Mkey

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That's exactly my situation. I chose the second option - I have submitted the same recommendation letter to different slots. It was even more tricky for me, as not only my job title changed several times, the legal entity of my company changed as well (you know it when you sit on the same place and do the same thing for 3 year but you end up with 4 different records on the work record book ??? Nuts!). So my reference letters mentioned all the circumstances under which my titles have changed and specified that I have retained the same job responsibilities.

I managed only to get separate earning certificates for different positions (but mostly because it was a different letterhead each time, so you probably don't need to bother with these).

We'll see how it goes. Fingers crossed!
 

ellia

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Mkey said:
you know it when you sit on the same place and do the same thing for 3 year but you end up with 4 different records on the work record book ??? Nuts!
Ugh, I know what you mean! I am a bit worried now, my letter doesn't explain anything, it just states that I had three job titles, "and in all of them" my duties were as stated. I wonder if that's enough. I'll try to make it as clear as possible in the LoE, but I'm kinda wondering now which of the two options is less likely to be considered misrepresentation in my case...

Anyway, thanks for the information, Mkey!
 

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ellia said:
I am a bit worried now, my letter doesn't explain anything, it just states that I had three job titles, "and in all of them" my duties were as stated. I wonder if that's enough.
I didn't mention any details when the position changed for a similar one, but for the one which was completely irrelevant I explained in 2 sentences something like "that it was done due to legal requirements for a company to join a local high-tech park".
Not sure if it's needed but I thought if I can explain it a short form why not.

Good luck!
 

kryt0n

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Reviving an old thread.

I created two entries for my job although the roles/noc didn't change. I separated them because my title and salary changed, but my roles remained the same.

I'm uploading the same reference letter to both which says something like:
1-worked xx-yy with title 2171a salary $xx
2-worked yy-zz with title 2171b salary $xxx

Job duties for the entirety of employment were:
......


Hopefully I've not screwed this up!
 

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uppperkut said:
I used the last job title myself. My letters show my titles throughout the years and I'll also explain that in the LOE.

Hope that helps.
Thank you.

Mines a bit more grey than that.

As a government job we are just put into pay bands. So my separate slots are me going up a band. My job title went from CAAS-CMASS-3b1a to CAAS-CMASS-3b1... no joke. So I entered them separately. My letter says they were separate but the letter says my duties stayed the same.

Time will tell, I guess!
 

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kryt0n said:
Thank you.

Mines a bit more grey than that.

As a government job we are just put into pay bands. So my separate slots are me going up a band. My job title went from CAAS-CMASS-3b1a to CAAS-CMASS-3b1... no joke. So I entered them separately. My letter says they were separate but the letter says my duties stayed the same.

Time will tell, I guess!
In that case, I would probably just upload the experience letter twice for both jobs. Also make sure you explain in the LOE. (I know I will)
 

kryt0n

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uppperkut said:
In that case, I would probably just upload the experience letter twice for both jobs. Also make sure you explain in the LOE. (I know I will)
Thank you. I'm not really sure what I need to explain too much though. My letter from HR and another from my manager are quite clear that I had two positions with litterally a single letter change in the title and will a pay increase, but my job was the same. My managers letter states simply that my duties for the whole time I was employed were the same...

I'm not even sure how I would explain this any further in my LOE... That I separated them because my job title changed?
 

uppperkut

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kryt0n said:
Thank you. I'm not really sure what I need to explain too much though. My letter from HR and another from my manager are quite clear that I had two positions with litterally a single letter change in the title and will a pay increase, but my job was the same. My managers letter states simply that my duties for the whole time I was employed were the same...

I'm not even sure how I would explain this any further in my LOE... That I separated them because my job title changed?
Yeah why not? I'm no expert but I guess anything that reassures the reviewing officer is a good thing. :]
 

Abrarmatin

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Hi, actually I am having confusion regarding work experience certificate.After reading several comments in this forum ,I found that experience letter is called Reference letter,Is it correct?

To make things more clear, I have job experience in past within 10 years in two companies and then I left job and completed my education.Now I am housewife and main applicant. I already have experience letter from both companies stating that my job title, duration in the company, but their is no explanation of duties which come under my job title. Is it ok, if I give my job responsibilities in separate letter which is signed by myself, Is it called LOE?


To submit EE application and profile in website ,do I need to attach any documents?as I am new and in procedure of gathering information.

Thanks in advance if anyone can help to give me information.
 

gautam1

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Thank you. I'm not really sure what I need to explain too much though. My letter from HR and another from my manager are quite clear that I had two positions with litterally a single letter change in the title and will a pay increase, but my job was the same. My managers letter states simply that my duties for the whole time I was employed were the same...

I'm not even sure how I would explain this any further in my LOE... That I separated them because my job title changed?
Hi, two tittle same noc and same company. Roles and duties mentioned same throughout. Only one letter mentioning all this.

Should i create two entries with different job tittle or just
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