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A canadian citizen who is married to a refugee women with three children

Madal

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Dear colleagues,

Can a man who is Canadian citizen and who married to a refugee women with three children sponsor them under humanitarian compassionate? Or he has to pay all the fee required to sponsor under spouse and family class.
Can anyone with the experience help.
Madal
 

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They should be sponsored via family class application. If the wife already has a refugee application ongoing then be aware that CIC will be looking very closely at the new spousal sponsorship application.
 

Madal

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Thank you
This is not a new case. It has been rejected twice while the sponsor claimed to have married the wife and the children being his biological children. What could be done.
Madal
 

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Talk to a lawyer.
 

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Madal said:
Thank you
This is not a new case. It has been rejected twice while the sponsor claimed to have married the wife and the children being his biological children. What could be done.
Madal
Oh boy. This will be tough. Take scylla's advice and talk to a lawyer.
 

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Madal said:
Thank you
This is not a new case. It has been rejected twice while the sponsor claimed to have married the wife and the children being his biological children. What could be done.
Madal
This statement right here leads me to believe that something less than above board is occuring. If this woman is a refugee from another country, currently in Canada with her 3 children, how is it that she does not have an ongoing refugee application?

You state that an application to sponsor has be rejected twice now, with a 'claim' that the woman is married to the biological father of the children. If the woman is NOT married and/or the person is NOT the biological father of the children, then this information is easily proven by CIC and therefore sounds more like a case of misrepresentation which is another issue all together different then which stream to try and process her under.

Now, if you are saying you have recently married her and she has tried to gain sponsorship on two other occasions, both times failing, then I would run far and fast if I were you because you are being used.
 

Madal

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Sorry, she is not currently in Canada, she is refugee in another country and application is not under process.
Madal
 

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Could you explain the statement about her having 2 other applications that were denied already? Without all of the pertinent information nobody is going to be able to give you accurate information at all.
 

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Alurra71 said:
Could you explain the statement about her having 2 other applications that were denied already? Without all of the pertinent information nobody is going to be able to give you accurate information at all.
I'm not sure it's worth the trouble asking. If you read through the OP's old posts, the story seems to change each time. Sometimes the husband is already a citizen and wants to sponsor his wife and children who are not in Canada, other times they are in Canada, still other times the wife has PR and is in Canada while the husband has been refused as a refugee by Canada. The one thing that seems to stay constant with each version of the story is the fact that the wife and/or husband committed misrepresentation by saying they had no spouse. IMO any further discussions are a waste of time unless the OP is willing to come forward with the full/true story.
 

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scylla said:
I'm not sure it's worth the trouble asking. If you read through the OP's old posts, the story seems to change each time. Sometimes the husband is already a citizen and wants to sponsor his wife and children who are not in Canada, other times they are in Canada, still other times the wife has PR and is in Canada while the husband has been refused as a refugee by Canada. The one thing that seems to stay constant with each version of the story is the fact that the wife and/or husband committed misrepresentation by saying they had no spouse. IMO any further discussions are a waste of time unless the OP is willing to come forward with the full/true story.
Ah, I didn't take the time to read the previous posts of this particular poster. I had thought I learned better than that, but apparently it hasn't fully sunken in YET! LOL Thank you for the heads up, Scylla, least I won't be wasting my time and effort here ;)
 

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Alurra71 said:
Ah, I didn't take the time to read the previous posts of this particular poster. I had thought I learned better than that, but apparently it hasn't fully sunken in YET! LOL Thank you for the heads up, Scylla, least I won't be wasting my time and effort here ;)
You were just trying to be helpful! :) As we all are.
 

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scylla said:
I'm not sure it's worth the trouble asking. If you read through the OP's old posts, the story seems to change each time. Sometimes the husband is already a citizen and wants to sponsor his wife and children who are not in Canada, other times they are in Canada, still other times the wife has PR and is in Canada while the husband has been refused as a refugee by Canada. The one thing that seems to stay constant with each version of the story is the fact that the wife and/or husband committed misrepresentation by saying they had no spouse. IMO any further discussions are a waste of time unless the OP is willing to come forward with the full/true story.
I kind of get the feeling that he is asking on behalf of people? Maybe he is offering services to help people immigrate (legally or through misrepresentation I am not sure) and then posting here for advice?
 

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Zarilenth said:
I kind of get the feeling that he is asking on behalf of people? Maybe he is offering services to help people immigrate (legally or through misrepresentation I am not sure) and then posting here for advice?
I think it's unlikely. In each different scenario there is a husband, a wife, three children, some kind of refugee situation and the misrepresentation / failure to declare the spouse / children. There is no way the op has three friends with this same scenario. But perhaps I'm mistaken.
 

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scylla said:
I think it's unlikely. In each different scenario there is a husband, a wife, three children, some kind of refugee situation and the misrepresentation / failure to declare the spouse / children. There is no way the op has three friends with this same scenario. But perhaps I'm mistaken.
Mmm that's very true. I was confused with the wording he was using - 'a man' and 'a woman', etc.
 

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Read his previous posts again - it does appear he is seeking help on behalf of others and perhaps offering services to help people who want to immigrate. He has inquired about different things including whether transcripts from a Kenyan school, can be used as proof of English language ability or so, etc.

There is one case (I believe is the same case in this thread) of a man who came to Canada as refugee. Apaprently, at the time he applied, his wife and/or children were living in a refugee camp, though he did not know their location. Out of fear of it delaying his application(or bad advise), he did not declare them. The man was approved and is a permanent resident (or has become a citizen).

His wife has all 3 children and has made a refugee claim in another country. She also did not declare she was married in her refugee application. The man now wants to reunite with his family but the problems are:
1. he did not declare wife and/or children, therefore can not sponsor them ever (two applications rejected)
2. the wife is also in limbo - she did not declare her husband, so even if granted refuge in this other country, she can not add her husband to her application.
3. if the authorities in her country of refuge learn of him(her husband), her status could be at risk.

It does seem the fear of misrepresentation and/or consequences thereof is weighing heavily on their minds. I believe it's the reason the OP is inquiring (on behalf of this man) if he can make a 3rd attempt (or appeal) on Humanitarian & Compasionate grounds.

scylla said:
I think it's unlikely. In each different scenario there is a husband, a wife, three children, some kind of refugee situation and the misrepresentation / failure to declare the spouse / children. There is no way the op has three friends with this same scenario. But perhaps I'm mistaken.