38th Draw// July 13, 2016 // 482 points // 747 Invites

[johnjkjk]

Then what's going to happen after August? cut off will dip down back to 470-480?

Last low score was February with 453. In May, the cut off were 534 and 484.

ITAs from the middle or end of August are unlikely to result in a landed immigrant in 2016 so it would come in the 2017 target, which if assumed to be an extrapolation of this year's target (but it may be based on some unpublished ministerial guidance with a lower/higher target) and given that pre-EE backlog should have been cleared by then, it is likely for ITAs to increase to as high as 2000 or more. Whether this immediately results in a fall in scores depends upon how many hundreds of people have accumulated between 460-481, especially towards the higher end (475-481). Also normally around 900 people with a score of above 460 enter the pool per draw so.

So unless the pre-EE backlog has not been cleared, scores will fall, the question is by how much?

 

[carlucho34]

I may need some help with this.

My partner's got a a bachelor degree from back home, and a diploma for a 2-year program here in Canada. Still he only has 8 points, it should be 9, right?

Am I doing something wrong?

You may be discouraged but I am kicking myself. I created my profile in March but made an error in calculations- I though that "two or more" degrees would be merely worth an extra 8 points and didn't get my second qualification assesed. I didn't realise that I would miss out on 25 points for skills transferability. By the time I got my second ECA with a score in the 470-480 range, I just missed the boat.

 

[dell2]

I may need some help with this.

My partner's got a a bachelor degree from back home, and a diploma for a 2-year program here in Canada. Still he only has 8 points, it should be 9, right?

Am I doing something wrong?

Check these links and check your CRS as well to confirm.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/eca-conversion.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-factors.asp

 

[Alexios07]

ITAs from the middle or end of August are unlikely to result in a landed immigrant in 2016 so it would come in the 2017 target, which if assumed to be an extrapolation of this year's target (but it may be based on some unpublished ministerial guidance with a lower/higher target) and given that pre-EE backlog should have been cleared by then, it is likely for ITAs to increase to as high as 2000 or more. Whether this immediately results in a fall in scores depends upon how many hundreds of people have accumulated between 460-481, especially towards the higher end (475-481). Also normally around 900 people with a score of above 460 enter the pool per draw so.

So unless the pre-EE backlog has not been cleared, scores will fall, the question is by how much?

I believe there is no way IRCC can clear up the backlog within this year or even next year, according to their most updated data:

PR Application Processing (As of March 31st, 2016)

There are still 383,159 applications in processing as of March 2016 which went down 9% from 421,171 from March 2015.

Check these links and check your CRS as well to confirm.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/eca-conversion.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-factors.asp

Please use the crs calculation tool for the best result

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

 

[dell2]

Please use the crs calculation tool for the best result

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

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Yes, this too, i forgot to add. Thank you.

 

[sms_1190]

I believe there is no way IRCC can clear up the backlog within this year or even next year, according to their most updated data:

PR Application Processing (As of March 31st, 2016)

There are still 383,159 applications in processing as of March 2016 which went down 9% from 421,171 from March 2015.

Please use the crs calculation tool for the best result

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

We shouldn't worry about 383K. We should check 153,913 from economics. As of Mar 2016, they have processed 42,657. There are still 117943 spots are available. Lets assume from this number, they will process 20K from express entry. Then there would be approx 100k spots for inventory of 153k-20k(of express entry). From my calculation, next year is sure for express entry as they have predicted.

PS : This is only for information.

 

[Alexios07]

We shouldn't worry about 383K. We should check 153,913 from economics. As of Mar 2016, they have processed 42,657. There are still 117943 spots are available. Lets assume from this number, they will process 20K from express entry. Then there would be approx 100k spots for inventory of 153k-20k(of express entry). From my calculation, next year is sure for express entry as they have predicted.

PS : This is only for information.

Well, some members are saying that the ITAs per draw will go up in September if the backlog is cleared. I just pointed out that the backlog cannot be cleared within this year and the next. Hence, ITAs and cut off will stay in 470-488 range.

 

[pooja.m]

You may be discouraged but I am kicking myself. I created my profile in March but made an error in calculations- I though that "two or more" degrees would be merely worth an extra 8 points and didn't get my second qualification assesed. I didn't realise that I would miss out on 25 points for skills transferability. By the time I got my second ECA with a score in the 470-480 range, I just missed the boat.

Hey if we have master degree which is equivalent to canada's master degree and we get master's ECA done then can we claim for that two or more degree?

Or we have to get the bacholre's assessed?

 

[sms_1190]

Well, some members are saying that the ITAs per draw will go up in September if the backlog is cleared. I just pointed out that the backlog cannot be cleared within this year and the next. Hence, ITAs and cut off will stay in 470-488 range.

Yeah, That's true. But if you compare the end of this year, the percentage of backlog would be low compared to current one. That means they can draw more people and cut off would surely go down.

 

[ash_rock]

Although my patience level is quite high, but sitting at 481 for 2 months and seeing draw points like 482 pass by, is testing the level! I am hopeful though, that there should be a draw for below 481 in the next couple of draws given the lower ITAs in the past couple of draws.

 

[TimeLord18]

Hey if we have master degree which is equivalent to canada's master degree and we get master's ECA done then can we claim for that two or more degree?

Or we have to get the bacholre's assessed?

If you have a degree equivalent to an Master's degree you can just select education level as Master's. You get more points for Master's degree compared to Two or more degrees.

Only the Master's degree need to be assessed.

 

[dell2]

Hey if we have master degree which is equivalent to Canada's master degree and we get master's ECA done then can we claim for that two or more degree?

Or we have to get the bachelor's assessed?

If your masters is assessed as Canadian Master you can select Masters

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/eca-conversion.asp

University degree at the Master’s level

ECA assessment results:

Master's Degree
Master's Degree (Taught)
Master of [name of discipline]
Master's degree, specializing in [name of discipline]
Master’s degree with a focus in [area of concentration]
One-year Master’s degree with a focus in [area of concentration]
Two-year Master’s degree with a focus in [area of concentration]
Master of Business Administration
One-year Master of Business Administration degree
One-year Master degree
Master degree


Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees.

Important notice: One must be for a program of three or more years.

ECA assessment results:

A three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree

PLUS any of the results in the sections below (not including secondary/high school), or:

Post-Bachelor's Certificate
Post-undergraduate certificate
Post-Bachelor's Diploma
Post-undergraduate diploma
Graduate Certificate
Graduate Certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]
Postgraduate certificate
Postgraduate Diploma
Graduate Diploma with a focus in [area of concentration]
Graduate diploma
two-year Postgraduate Diploma, specializing in [name of discipline]
two-year Bachelor’s after degree with a focus in [area of concentration]
one-year Postgraduate Certificate in [name of discipline]
one-year of graduate study with a focus in [area of concentration]
Dual Bachelor’s degree (four years)

 

[kevon2310]

Never have I ever hated the number 481 so much. Where do all these folks at 482 keep coming from

 

[kevon2310]

Although my patience level is quite high, but sitting at 481 for 2 months and seeing draw points like 482 pass by, is testing the level! I am hopeful though, that there should be a draw for below 481 in the next couple of draws given the lower ITAs in the past couple of draws.

Lets hope its the next draw because I dont know how much longer I can handle seeing another 482

 

[dell2]

I Think they are just copy pasting points and being lazy