3-year Bachelor degree to Master's, how?

[Wiki]

Hello all,

I am holding a Bachelor degree in Business Administration (Hons) in Malaysia. Here, the majority of the universities only have 3-year option for Bachelor of BA (and other business related) degrees. The course I did was 120 credits completed in a matter of 3 years. I believe this sort of structure in Business schools here is similar to British's education Business school system.

Anyway, my question, can I possibly get into any MBA or MSc (in business related categories) by holding a 3-year Bachelor degree from Malaysia?

As nearly every Uni's requirement for Master's is "a 4 year Bachelor degree from a reputable institution", I would greatly appreciate to hear your input regarding what's the requirement for someone like me in order to proceed into any Master's degree program in Canada.

Thanks in advance.

 

[tiger007]

Hello all,

I am holding a Bachelor degree in Business Administration (Hons) in Malaysia. Here, the majority of the universities only have 3-year option for Bachelor of BA (and other business related) degrees. The course I did was 120 credits completed in a matter of 3 years. I believe this sort of structure in Business schools here is similar to British's education Business school system.

Anyway, my question, can I possibly get into any MBA or MSc (in business related categories) by holding a 3-year Bachelor degree from Malaysia?

As nearly every Uni's requirement for Master's is "a 4 year Bachelor degree from a reputable institution", I would greatly appreciate to hear your input regarding what's the requirement for someone like me in order to proceed into any Master's degree program in Canada.

Thanks in advance.

Hi,

Assuming you fulfill all criteria for admission to that Masters degree in your filed, depending upon different universities ( for example for avg. MBA - requirements such as GMAT, work ex, IELTS etc.).. yet.. ALL Canadian Universities require 4 years UG level degree for admissions to their Master degree programmes.

Only way to meet this criteria from your native country is to do a 1 year or 2 years Master degree in your filed of study (i.e Business administration or related fields). Can be a 1 or 2 years MBA/Msc./M.A etc. As long as it is a recognized valid 1 or 2 years Master level degree form a recognized university in Malaysia.. you will be eligible to apply for Master degree in Canadian universities.

Best of Luck.


***All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too.

 

[Wiki]

Thanks a bunch for the prompt and informative reply, tiger007.

As my intention is to study and later work (and get PR) in Canada, would it not be possible to get into a Master's Certificate program from a College such as Seneca, which they require a 3-year Diploma (while I have a 3-year degree), then later on proceeding into a Master's degree from a reputable university in Canada?

And since in that case I would have studied for two years in Canada, wouldn't that way be more efficient for later obtaining work permit and eventually PR as opposed to spending only one year doing my Master's in Canada?

Appreciate any input.

 

[tiger007]

Thanks a bunch for the prompt and informative reply, tiger007.

As my intention is to study and later work (and get PR) in Canada, would it not be possible to get into a Master's Certificate program from a College such as Seneca, which they require a 3-year Diploma (while I have a 3-year degree), then later on proceeding into a Master's degree from a reputable university in Canada?

And since in that case I would have studied for two years in Canada, wouldn't that way be more efficient for later obtaining work permit and eventually PR as opposed to spending only one year doing my Master's in Canada?

Appreciate any input.

Hi,

Seneca is NOT a university. It's a Canadian college. And those courses are NOT Master's certificate. Those are PG level certificate programmes, marketed mainly to international students.. who don't qualify for Master's and are looking a quicker way to get into Canada. Many Ontario based colleges offer PG business related certificates. Now, Most universities require Bachelor level 4 years degree OR 3 years Bachelor +1 year Master/2 years Master from your native country or any other country to be eligible and be equivalent to their 4 years UG degree. I've never heard of International students meeting this requirement by doing such PG certificate courses from Canadian colleges. The universities MAY accept 3 years a Bachelors(of your native country)+1 acd. year/2 sem/atleast 8 months of actual studied PG certificate course from Canadian colleges... for that you need to shoot emails to all universities..and ask..if they accept or not. If they do...then very well..you can go ahead and study 1 year PG certificate business related programmes in any of the Ontario based colleges( only other PG business related course offered outside Ontario is in Red River College, Winnipeg, Manitoba..which offers a higher credit 1 year PG diploma in IB... (I'm sure universities MAY accept that PG diploma..higher chance). So..you need to confirm on this.
Yes..that 1 year studied... will be counted for PGWP.. and who knows..if you perform really well..and coupled with your skills, academic standing, quality of internship done(if a co-op programme), along with ur networking skills and luck..you may bag a skilled job after the PG certificate course..and hence be eligible for PR under federal CEC or Ontario PNP. But, usually it's safer to do 1 2 acd. years/4 sem/16 months of actual study..course and be eligible for 3 years PGWP..which will give you more than enough time to pursue PR/immigration. There are many student immigration programmes, each province (PNPs) and federal CEC, having their own set of criteria. In some like Sask. and Manitoba, unskilled full time jobs are also eligible for being counted as work ex required(usually 6-12) to be eligible to apply for PNP nomination and PR. Or learn intermediate level French.. DELF B1..and you get direct PR after doing any post secondary 2 acd. years/1800 hours course in French-Canadian province of Quebec. So..if PR is what you looking for and if you can learn French (it's very well possible to learn in 2 years, DELF B1 level)..then you get direct CSQ(Quebec selection certificate) and PR. That's the easiest way... no need to find job or work or be dependent on any employer..but u got to learn French.

To know more about various student immigration programmes see:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/various-immigration-programmes-for-international-students-in-canada-t100908.0.html

Here's the list of all recognized Canadian colleges and universities (listed province wise), where international students are eligible for off campus work permit + PGWP:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/institutions/participants.asp

Best of Luck.



**All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too.

 

[Wiki]

Once again, thank you very much for providing me with all these detailed information.

I did mix up PG certificate with Master's certificate so thanks for clarifying. I will check to see what the universities would tell me if I wanted to pursue Master's after PG certificate in Canada. In the meantime, I will check the viability of the other possible options provided by you in the web-links.

In case I run into any misunderstanding of the programs later on, I would appreciate if you could help me out.

Thanks once more.

 

[wJaz]

I have the same problem as yours. So I decided to find some universities who accept the 3 years Degree. I have a UK's 3 years bachelors degree.

And i'm looking for MBA. So far the only reasonable option is Concordia University. As they accept 3 years degree provided if someone has a good profile with high GMAT Score.

There are other universities aswell.. So keep trying to and can find plenty but still you got to have a strong profile. either something like IELTS 8+ band or GMAT or GRE.

Hope that helps.

 

[tiger007]

I have the same problem as yours. So I decided to find some universities who accept the 3 years Degree. I have a UK's 3 years bachelors degree.

And i'm looking for MBA. So far the only reasonable option is Concordia University. As they accept 3 years degree provided if someone has a good profile with high GMAT Score.

There are other universities aswell.. So keep trying to and can find plenty but still you got to have a strong profile. either something like IELTS 8+ band or GMAT or GRE.

Hope that helps.

+1

very good piece of information relevant to the above forum member's question.

 

[wJaz]

+1

very good piece of information relevant to the above forum member's question.

not as better as you can give to us

I still need some of your time to explain me the CAQ process lol

 

[tiger007]

I still need some of your time to explain me the CAQ process lol

Hi,

CAQ- Québec Acceptance Certificate. International students need to get a CAQ from Quebec govt., after getting admission to ANY recognized educational institute in Quebec. One needs to separately apply for CAQ. Once u get CAQ, usually within 20 days..to 30 days(including postage time), only then one can apply for a Canadian study permit. The CAQ has to be attached with the entire visa application package. This system is in place only in the province of Quebec, because of it's greater autonomy among all Canadian provinces to accept and select it's own international students and immigrants respectively.

Infact, some educational institutes in Quebec, may require international students to apply for "Comparative Evaluation of Studies", with the Ministry of Education, Govt. of Quebec... which usually takes 1-2 months, before granting admission. Then after getting the evaluation report... one gets admission, then one has to apply for CAQ, which takes upto 1 month. So, international students may need to start the application process anywhere between 1-3 months earlier from the anticipated date to apply for a study permit.

To know more about studying in Quebec:
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/students/obtaining-authorizations/index.html

To know more about CAQ:
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/students/obtaining-authorizations/certificat-acceptation/index.html
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/students/obtaining-authorizations/certificat-acceptation/processing-times.html




**All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too.

 

[enfield]

Hi,

I have the same problem as yours. So I decided to find some universities who accept the 3 years Degree. I have a UK's 3 years bachelors degree.

And i'm looking for MBA. So far the only reasonable option is Concordia University. As they accept 3 years degree provided if someone has a good profile with high GMAT Score.

There are other universities aswell.. So keep trying to and can find plenty but still you got to have a strong profile. either something like IELTS 8+ band or GMAT or GRE.

Hope that helps.

1. Not possible, the total UG education must equal to 16 years (or 15 + 1 years).

 

[wJaz]

Do you know how was Canada founded and by who ? do you know they still regard the Queen?

Well.. I have a professional qualification ACCA and BSc in Applied Accountancy. So, to make matter worse.. They dont understand the level of education of ACCA. Its equal to masters in UK.

But anyway, WES (World Education Services) in Canada Toronto office.. they Evaluate ACCA has 4 years Canadian bachelors. And Yet those universities dont know about it and still dont accept WES Evaluation. Silly isnt it ?

its better to do something like M.Com , B.com from Asia rather than doing an expensive ACCA qualification with years of experience in Accounting firms.

Well to my dear Canadians .. how about Studying A.B.C for 10 years and then do the X.Y.Z in rest 6 years to make that " so called 16 years UG ".

There's a good example of Australia, they still are in common wealth but look how well they do with regards of universities and admissions. They always recognize something from United Kingdom even if its from a private collage because they know that UK educated HALF of the world. To me, I'm very happy to study something straight from United Kingdom. I salute to them, I Thank them aswel.. And its not cheap to study ACCA.

But yet again... Some universities require that 4 years ABC + XYZ which someone can do in 3 years with good grades

Cheers. Hope that helps and adds frustration to my fellow 3 years Under graduates.

 

[wJaz]

Hi,

CAQ- Québec Acceptance Certificate. International students need to get a CAQ from Quebec govt., after getting admission to ANY recognized educational institute in Quebec. One needs to separately apply for CAQ. Once u get CAQ, usually within 20 days..to 30 days(including postage time), only then one can apply for a Canadian study permit. The CAQ has to be attached with the entire visa application package. This system is in place only in the province of Quebec, because of it's greater autonomy among all Canadian provinces to accept and select it's own international students and immigrants respectively.

Infact, some educational institutes in Quebec, may require international students to apply for "Comparative Evaluation of Studies", with the Ministry of Education, Govt. of Quebec... which usually takes 1-2 months, before granting admission. Then after getting the evaluation report... one gets admission, then one has to apply for CAQ, which takes upto 1 month. So, international students may need to start the application process anywhere between 1-3 months earlier from the anticipated date to apply for a study permit.

To know more about studying in Quebec:
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/students/obtaining-authorizations/index.html

To know more about CAQ:
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/students/obtaining-authorizations/certificat-acceptation/index.html
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/students/obtaining-authorizations/certificat-acceptation/processing-times.html


**All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too.

Thanks mate.. I'm doing a deep research on the website these days. Thank Alot. I will read the documents information on Website now.

 

[tipsy]

it's very frustrating also for me who came from Philippines. I am a graduate of 4 years bachelor degree and at the same time a graduate of 2 years Diploma certificate which happens that I have taken together at the same time. When I inquire to almost all university they said I have to finish my Masters degree in my home country. If I finish i there and come to Canada then VO will not approve my SP as i already have MSc, so why would I take same degree?

 

[vash021]

in my case I finished my 4 year bachelors in computer science in 2 years because it was a trimester school and some of my previous sbujects were credited

will i be able to apply for masters in canada? I did 6 years of UG(4 years nusing with bachelors degree and 2 years computer science with bachelors degree)

I have already been rejected from Carleton University saying that admissions are competitive
what other universities will I have a chance to get admitted? no colleges please

Thank you

 

[Regina]

Wiki,

Entrance Requirements:

1. Education:
An acceptable 3 or 4 year undergraduate degree in any discipline with a minimum B average (GPA of 3.0 on a scale of 4.33 or local equivalent) in the last 60 credits.

http://www.tru.ca/business/mba/applying.html