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Sid_116

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Mar 4, 2022
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I see. One good thing about it is I know it’s being processed in my home country Philippines
I am assuming that the completion checks for the OWP are done by Canadian officers here and once the fee is paid and everything is processed, they move the file to respected countries for approvals/rejections.
Also, there is no standard time special for this category, so I assume it's 6 to 8 months. Unless, we see the first approval, we cannot decide though. Another form of milking money.
 

SmzAmir

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Oct 24, 2021
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@SmzAmir , @catmeow
I applied, June 18th and received AOR on June 24th asking for biometric fee. I was confused, as she already submitted biometrics for her visit visa which unfortunately got rejected. So, I kinda assumed that officer made a mistake and asked for biometric fee instead of $100 OWP fee. so paid both ($100+$85) and submitted the same day.
No update yet!
Have you attached the biometrics confirmation letter in the application? or mentioned that your spouse has done it before?
Because I did that and I haven't paid the biometrics fee but after AOR I saw her biometric validity date is added in her online account which means that they accepted the letter.
 

Sid_116

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Mar 4, 2022
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Have you attached the biometrics confirmation letter in the application? or mentioned that your spouse has done it before?
Because I did that and I haven't paid the biometrics fee but after AOR I saw her biometric validity date is added in her online account which means that they accepted the letter.
Yes, I have attached the letter and biometrics number updated in secure account as well. Still, they asked me to pay. As it is 85 bucks , I don't want to take the risk and will fight for refund once approved.
 

SmzAmir

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Oct 24, 2021
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Yes, I have attached the letter and biometrics number updated in secure account as well. Still, they asked me to pay. As it is 85 bucks , I don't want to take the risk and will fight for refund once approved.
It's weird... You did the right thing though. Hope we'll hear good news soon
 
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dfreyes343

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Jul 27, 2022
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Hi everyone,

I'd like to ask a few questions. I am currently in a process in the TR to PR program, through the francophone recent graduate stream. I currently live near the Quebec/Ontario border and I decided to live on the Quebec side while I was doing my studies since it was more affordable than living on the Ontario side. IRCC contacted me recently and they asked me to send them a letter where I have to declare that it is not my intention to stay in Quebec, since I declared on the application that it is my intention to live in Ontario. They also asked me to provide a few extra documents that I already have, but my main concern is the time since they told me that I have to send everything in 7 days max. Here are a couple of questions I would like to ask:

1. My plan regarding the letter is to declare that I live indeed in Quebec, but I'm planning on moving to Ontario in 2 months since I work for an Ontario employer now. However, I don't know if currently living in Quebec can have a negative impact on my application, or if 2 months is too long/not convincing for the immigration officer. What would you do in my situation?

2. IRCC asked me to fill a form again, and I need to attach an extra sheet to the form to provide full information on my history. However, I don't know how to attach an extra sheet on the same document, and the IRCC platform does not let me submit extra documents (they asked for 4 documents, and opened 4 links to provide those documents, which means I cannot upload the extra sheet as an extra document). What can I do regarding this?
 

Onepiece4444

Member
Jul 23, 2022
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Hi,
PR Application- July 27th,2021
AOR- September 2021
BIL- 14 February, 2022
ADR(pcc)- 20th February
Eligibility- passed
Info sharing- completed
Criminality- in progress since March 2022
Security- not yet started
Technically it’s been 5 months just stuck in Criminality and security not started yet. Requested for ATIP but still waiting
Where do you see Criminal and Security check? All I see is background check
 

maxiie

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Jul 21, 2021
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App. Filed.......
15-07-2021
I spoke to agent today, the wait time was higher than normal, 1.5 hr. Also has anyone noticed lately, the wait time increases instead of reducing at times. Like after 40-50 mins. My wait time was 17 mins & after another 25 mins, it was another 26 mins lol. This has happened in past too. Sean Fraser sux.

Anyways regarding OWP, I kinda knew this too. Luckily I got to speak to a nice agent this time unlike the last time. If you get a nice agent, the frustration of long wait eases up eventually. He too said that OWP processing is very straightforward. Also no back check is required from within Canada atm for temporary visa applications. Plus most of other stuff like medical etc is already processed so the OWP process actually isn’t anything greater than 1 week in my opinion. But they keep 4 months time to you know work on other applications based on what Fraser wants to focus on till just before 4 months timeline imo. Mayne just wanna be done with this misery. Sean Fraser you’re incompetent to the core.
 

jacob1234

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Aug 7, 2020
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Hi everyone,

I'd like to ask a few questions. I am currently in a process in the TR to PR program, through the francophone recent graduate stream. I currently live near the Quebec/Ontario border and I decided to live on the Quebec side while I was doing my studies since it was more affordable than living on the Ontario side. IRCC contacted me recently and they asked me to send them a letter where I have to declare that it is not my intention to stay in Quebec, since I declared on the application that it is my intention to live in Ontario. They also asked me to provide a few extra documents that I already have, but my main concern is the time since they told me that I have to send everything in 7 days max. Here are a couple of questions I would like to ask:

1. My plan regarding the letter is to declare that I live indeed in Quebec, but I'm planning on moving to Ontario in 2 months since I work for an Ontario employer now. However, I don't know if currently living in Quebec can have a negative impact on my application, or if 2 months is too long/not convincing for the immigration officer. What would you do in my situation?

2. IRCC asked me to fill a form again, and I need to attach an extra sheet to the form to provide full information on my history. However, I don't know how to attach an extra sheet on the same document, and the IRCC platform does not let me submit extra documents (they asked for 4 documents, and opened 4 links to provide those documents, which means I cannot upload the extra sheet as an extra document). What can I do regarding this?
1. Yes, it is one of the eligibility criteria that you have to prove your intent to live outside of Quebec. It may result in refusal if you don't satisfy the officer. May be you can provide your employer's job letter which states that your employer is in Ontario, sign a temporary lease for 6 months, bank statements, driving license, etc. If you cannot provide these documents/proofs within 7 days, you should consult an immigration lawyer or consultant who can provide you best advice.
2. Write the remaining history on the word document. On the top, write your name, UCI#, Form Number, and Page # as well as sign on the bottom. Attach these word document to your original printed and signed form. Then you can upload it. IRCC won't provide you with more slots to upload. You have to combine the documents if the space provided in the form is not sufficient for you.
 

Wpiumi

Star Member
Sep 23, 2021
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Hi Everyone, i got my AOR last November, Its being 8 months now still no updates yet. My husband in Sri Lanka and there situation also no very good
i Applied Work vis for both of us but we did not get anything yet i am really worry .don't know what to to .I am here now 3 years
 

Lily444

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Sep 10, 2019
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Just found out this interesting subject from fb foday..felt like sharing .

Procedural Fairness Letter


If you find yourself in a situation where IRCC sends you a Procedural Fairness Letter (PFL) it is extremely important to submit a detailed response with strong factual arguments. Most individuals do not appreciate the seriousness of the situation; they decide to respond on their own, usually with a very weak response which leads to a refusal. This is the one, single time IRCC is providing an opportunity to respond before the application is refused. It is highly recommended to retain professional help to submit a proper response, as there will not be another opportunity provided later. Sometimes, a refused application will also come with serious consequences such as becoming Inadmissible to Canada with a 5-year ban for Misrepresentation.

If you received a Procedural Fairness letter, it is recommended to retain a professional to prepare a strong and sufficient response.




A Procedural Fairness Letter is commonly issued for the following reasons:




Genuineness of the relationship

Medical Inadmissibility

Misrepresentation

Criminal Inadmissibility

Express Entry: Wrong NOC, employment letter, insufficient evidence

Security Reasons





Genuineness of relationship: subsection 12(1) and subsection 4(1)


When individuals submit their own Spousal Sponsorship application, they often a receive Procedural Fairness Letters questioning the genuineness of their relationship or IRCC is not convinced that requirements are met for sponsorship. Examples include: Not living together in Canada for Inland Sponsorship, marriage is not legally recognized, not enough evidence to establish common-law relationship, dependent children not recognized as such. In all of these situations, IRCC is not satisfied enough to approve the application for some of the following reasons:


Inconsistent information on the required forms and supporting documents



Insufficient supporting documents to serve as evidence



Previous applications submitted by either sponsor or applicant to IRCC have inconsistent information from that on the Spousal application

Often a spousal applies for PR on their own previously, and do not declare they are married. Or a previously submitted TRV / Study Permit / Work Permit does not declare a spouse, when they were in fact married



Current marriage is not recognized, as divorce of previous marriage was not finalized before new marriage. Spouse would therefore not be considered part of the Family class, and thus not eligible to be sponsored, unless they have been living together for 1 year continuously and can be considered common-law.





Medical Inadmissibility: subsection 38(1)


Individuals with a medical issue may be found Medically Inadmissible to Canada if IRCC believes that the individual will incur excessive demand on health care or social service costs in excess of $20,517 CAD per year. This is common for Parental Sponsorship applications due to the age of elderly parents and sometimes on other Permanent Resident applications. A proper response must be submitted to the Procedural Fairness Letter, along with secondary opinion / diagnoses and medical plan. Matkowsky Immigration law has extensive experience with these medical cases and can help.




Misrepresentation: subsection 40(1)


IRCC may determine an individual misrepresented if they believe they were not not truthful in an application. This can arise if a person deliberately (or mistakenly) provided false information on the forms or fraudulent documents. Sometimes, merely failing to disclose a previous refusal of a visa to USA, Australia or another country on an application will result in Inadmissibility for Misrepresentation and a 5 year ban to Canada. Sometimes, IRCC makes an error in judgement when reviewing an application. This matter needs to be clarified in a sufficient manner to avoid the application being refused and being banned from Canada.




Criminal Inadmissibility: subsection 36(1) and subsection 36(2)


If an applicant has a previous criminal issue from Canada or another country, they can be found Criminally Inadmissible to Canada which can prevent them (and other family member in the application) from obtaining Permanent Residence status, or a Temporary Resident Visa and the application will be refused. Individuals often don't realize that even an non-accompanying family member who is not applying for Permanent Residence (such as a spouse), can prevent the entire family (other spouse and children) from obtaining PR if they have a Medical or Criminal issue.


Express Entry: wrong NOC, employment letter, insufficient evidence

There are many reasons IRCC can issue a PFL for an Express Entry application. Most issues pertain to not providing enough evidence for work experience (using the wrong NOC, employment letter not listing duties). Other reasons can include Medical reasons, Criminality, Misrepresentation, or issues with dependents on the application (proving the relationship of spouse or children).



Security Reasons / Terrorism: subsection 34(1)


Individuals who served in government, military, or a position close to the government, often require to provide IRCC additional information to prevent themselves from becoming inadmissible for Security Reasons. Similarly, individuals were a member of an organization in their youth that IRCC deems to have ties to terrorism. It is extremely important to have this clarified to IRCC with a proper submission.
 

zuizui

Full Member
Jan 24, 2022
39
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Got ECOPR yesterday, this is my full timeline.

Stream: IG
Submitted: May 6 1:30 PM
Medical: Passed - Oct 28
AOR: Nov 2
Biometrics: March 3, collected on March 7
GU: March 11,12 (security, eligibility passed)
3rd GU: May 12, 2022
ADR : May 17, 2022 (uploaded PCC same day)
4th GU: May 19, 2022 We are reviewing the additional documents you provided.
1st & 2nd Portal : July 26, 2022 (Calgary office)
ECOPR : July 28
 

zuizui

Full Member
Jan 24, 2022
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Hi Everyone, i got my AOR last November, Its being 8 months now still no updates yet. My husband in Sri Lanka and there situation also no very good
i Applied Work vis for both of us but we did not get anything yet i am really worry .don't know what to to .I am here now 3 years
i got my AOR last November too. Just received portal and ecopr yesterday. check my signature for timeline