2021 citizenship still waiting- let's gather here
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Nothing to worry about, it’s just SCR office slow in paper app, there are applicants from 2021 and early 2022 still waiting including me, it’s not because your app might have issue, it’s just the luck send our apps to busy office like SCR.
Yeah I heard horrendous stories of sluggishness hence its cherry on top and aiding more to our mental torture. Having said that, still I really wonder is it really my application is pending security clearance from CSIS that takes 6-8 months or its just that file is not being picked up by officer while eating dust. As in ATIP I couldn't find anything significant enough to conclude that SC is pending from CSIS, no sub-activities either or header itself perhaps redacted as of S15.1. But really mind boggling. Anyways wish you all folks the best of luck and sincere apologize to jeopradize this thread as newbie in delayed cases.
My GCMS notes shows
TRIAGE: 1
Location: E-Grant Review Ready PM01
1.5 months from bg complete, still waiting for LPP
TRIAGE: 1
Location: E-Grant Review Ready PM01
1.5 months from bg complete, still waiting for LPP
LPP not started as per notes? Is your file allocated to anyone (below location)?
Any relevant case notes eg file allocated, referred to L1, or a redacted officers note?
No, those fields are empty. My gcms date is 2023/04/27.
Office: VancouverCitizenship
Location: E-Grant Review Ready PM01
APPLICATION ASSIGNMENT
Due Date:
Assigned By:
AssignedTo:
SECONDARY OFFICE(S)
SECONDARY OFFICE(S): 1
Created Date: 2004/08/12
Updated Date: 2021/06/14
Primary: Y
RC Code: RC - 8090
Office Name: CPC Sydney
SIN
SIN: 0
TRIAGE
TRIAGE: 1
Created Date: 2017/04/19
Updated Date: 2017/04/19
Triage:
Hopefully your file will be assigned to an officer soon. Do apply for notes again to get the latest update!
If your LPP is complete (obviously, your file is assigned to an office) but does it also mean it is currently assigned to an officer to assign for oath? Or is it assigned to an officer for LPP and then back into a black hole until another one picks it up for oath?
Is triage bad? I have the same exact triage details as you but my location says e-Grants PE. I have no idea what it means
No, triage is not bad. In the context of Canadian immigration, triage is used to determine the order in which applications will be processed.
The e-Grants PE location means that your application is being processed by the IRCC's e-Grants Program. The e-Grants Program is a centralized processing system that is used to process a variety of immigration applications, including citizenship applications.
The fact that your application is being processed by the e-Grants Program does not mean that there is anything wrong with your application. It simply means that your application is being processed through a centralized system.
The IRCC is currently experiencing delays in processing citizenship applications. This is due to a number of factors, including the COVID-19 pandemic and the high volume of applications.
If you are concerned about the status of your application, you can contact the IRCC for more information. You can also request your GCMS notes, which will provide you with more details about the status of your application.
Here are some additional tips for speeding up the processing of your Canadian citizenship application:
- Make sure that your application is complete and accurate.
- Provide all of the required documentation.
- Be honest and upfront with the IRCC.
- Respond promptly to any requests for information.
- Be patient. The IRCC is processing applications as quickly as possible.
The problem is that contacting the IRCC is usually not very useful. Representatives don't have much more information that what is published on IRCC's website, and often even that is several month outdated, and therefore incorrect. We're are unlikely to get the kind of explanation you just gave by calling the call center. It may be useful for people who don't have internet access, otherwise this is just a hoop to jump through before being able to escalate further. The value for tax payers is somewhat questionable in my opinion.
I get a lot more from this forum by comparing notes with others, but I still had to make several of these calls just to be able to say I did it.
If IRCC cannot keep up with the applications now, this will likely become worse in the future. From what I heard, immigration targets are about 1% or more of country's population per year, which means exponential growth in application numbers.
On another note, I think most people would be ok with delays if there was some kind of a clear timeline, and they knew what to expect.
As it is, there are 10s or maybe 100s of thousands of confused folks who cannot understand why their straightforward cases collect dust for years while new applicants are flying through the whole process in 8 months. And many of us are spending a lot of time trying to see some patterns in processing times for different stages in different years, without much success.
Federal Court is already overloaded due to all the delayed applications.
I suspect that the reason for this is the target of processing 80% to the service standard (or maybe of maximizing the number processed within this standard), so the unlucky ones who lost this lottery become a very low priority. Of course the little guys doing actual processing at IRCC are helpless to change this, and cannot help all the sidelined applicants in any way. Where exactly the target comes from I am not sure, but I see the evidence of leadership putting a lot of importance into these numbers in all the media reports and interviews.
I understand your frustration. The IRCC is facing a number of challenges, including the COVID-19 pandemic, a high volume of applications, and a shortage of staff. This has led to delays in processing applications, and it can be difficult to get information about the status of an application.
I agree that it would be helpful if the IRCC could provide more information about processing times and the factors that are affecting processing times. This would help applicants to understand the situation and to make plans accordingly.
I hope that the IRCC will be able to address these challenges and to reduce processing times in the future.
One can hope, but so far I don't see any signs that this is a priority for IRCC. I heard that this backlog issue happened the same way in 2010s, when applications from later years were processed earlier than the older ones, and the Federal Court was also struggling. This procedure was not working well then, but nobody thought it was worthwhile to change it.
Well said. They previously used to term the 20% as "non routine" but have changed the terminology to "backlog", insisting that they always have a 20% backlog, in order to normalise there being a backlog. When in fact a backlog, by definition, shouldnt exist once it's cleared. As you say, the unlucky cases selected for "backlog" (previously non-routine) processing, whether by some algorithm, (un)lucky draw or officer targets, are stuck without information or end in sight, and deserve better.