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bluecollar said:
Thanks, you are generally right. The problem is that the page was brand new when I have accessed for the first time and as such my browser did not have any cached info. It was simply an initial error of their webmaster with respect to the links. Anyway, at this point, I cannot change anything. I mean, the file was re-mailed one hour later after being received (because the content of new and old versions of the form is absolutely identical, I believe that only the QR info at the end is coded differently - this why old QR readers do not work and this is probably how they have caught it) but I do not hold any hopes of catching this year's 5000 train. Anyway, this is just my experience, but I am sure that everyone of the 1300 applicants who had their files returned have similar stories (perhaps some identical with mine), plus other even more absurd stories. Oh, Canada!

You should've spoken to the call centre and had their supervisor to ask CPC-M to wait for your re-submission as it was their fault.
 
As much as it is probably CIC's fault, they put the onus on the sponsor in making sure they have the latest revision forms.

I wouldn't be surprised that come Jan 2015, new forms are updated Jan 1st or Jan 2nd. May I ask which forms got updated in this year, compare to Dec forms? Just curious here.

Screech339
 
Rob_TO said:
not submitting NOA for 2010/11/12

Question here, I'm taking a look to see if I can actually sponsor my parents. It happens that I arrived to Canada in 2011. Therefore, I don't have a NOC for 2010.
Can I still apply to be their sponsor?

Thanks,
-Haz
 
Hazael said:
Question here, I'm taking a look to see if I can actually sponsor my parents. It happens that I arrived to Canada in 2011. Therefore, I don't have a NOC for 2010.
Can I still apply to be their sponsor?

Not this year.
If your 2011 income meets the 2011 LICO required for parents, then with 2011, 2012 and 2013 NOAs you could apply in January 2015.
 
Hazael said:
Question here, I'm taking a look to see if I can actually sponsor my parents. It happens that I arrived to Canada in 2011. Therefore, I don't have a NOC for 2010.
Can I still apply to be their sponsor?

Thanks,
-Haz

If you don't have NOA for 2010, you can't apply this year. You can apply in jan 2015, with 2011, 2012, 2013 NOAs.
 
There is a CIC news release that the 5000 cap has been reached.
 
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2014/2014-02-03a.asp
 
still took them a month eh......not bad....
 
canvis2006 said:
still took them a month eh......not bad....

May have took them a month to go through the applications up to first 2 weeks of submittal before it reached the limit.
 
bluecollar said:
Thanks, you are generally right. The problem is that the page was brand new when I have accessed for the first time and as such my browser did not have any cached info. It was simply an initial error of their webmaster with respect to the links. Anyway, at this point, I cannot change anything. I mean, the file was re-mailed one hour later after being received (because the content of new and old versions of the form is absolutely identical, I believe that only the QR info at the end is coded differently - this why old QR readers do not work and this is probably how they have caught it) but I do not hold any hopes of catching this year's 5000 train. Anyway, this is just my experience, but I am sure that everyone of the 1300 applicants who had their files returned have similar stories (perhaps some identical with mine), plus other even more absurd stories. Oh, Canada!

You are incorrect in thinking the only change is the QR code. In fact it is the length of the undertaking being increased to 20 years which was the reason for rejection. Compare the forms from 08-2013 to 11-2013.
 
BLT123 said:
You are incorrect in thinking the only change is the QR code. In fact it is the length of the undertaking being increased to 20 years which was the reason for rejection. Compare the forms from 08-2013 to 11-2013.

I agree with you. What I've referred to was just the info to be filled in by the applicant on the form which is identical on both versions/revisions of the form.
 
bluecollar said:
I agree with you. What I've referred to was just the info to be filled in by the applicant on the form which is identical on both versions/revisions of the form.
You may well be correct about the information to be filled in, but this is a legal contract between you and Canada. Therefore, if they allowed an old form to pass, they would be only holding you to the previous commitment, and not the new one. This would probably stand being tested in Court. Therefore, it's mandatory that the form be rejected. They could reasonably expect the applicant to check that the form being submitted was "fit for purpose", which, in your case, it blatantly would not be.
 
zardoz said:
You may well be correct about the information to be filled in, but this is a legal contract between you and Canada. Therefore, if they allowed an old form to pass, they would be only holding you to the previous commitment, and not the new one. This would probably stand being tested in Court. Therefore, it's mandatory that the form be rejected. They could reasonably expect the applicant to check that the form being submitted was "fit for purpose", which, in your case, it blatantly would not be.
I do not expect that an old form will pass, although - between us - that 10 (and now 20) years period does not mean much in a sense that there are (many) ways of bypassing/shortening it. Sadly enough, I know enough cases of (well above average income) couples who have sponsored their parents and 2-3 years down the road the parents have moved away by requesting (and receiving) government assistance - primarily for housing. Obviously, once you have broken the sponsorship commitment you will be unable to sponsor somebody else, but these couples have carefully planned everything down the road, in a sense they do not need to do it anymore. Back to my original story, I still do not know exactly what I've done wrong other than perhaps not realizing that the form posted by CIC in the right place was actually the wrong/old one. Anyway, it is all history now - meaning that none of these can be reversed anymore.
 
Hi guys! my credit card has been charged 550$ by CIC for PGP application form, what is next?
 
Almaty said:
Hi guys! my credit card has been charged 550$ by CIC for PGP application form, what is next?

Whats your application timeline? When were your documents received by CIC and when was your CC charged?