2 pending criminal charges,praa denied and inland sponsor application

[Creampop]

If this moron actually gets accepted into this country, then we might as well just admit defeat right now and forget about any sustainable future for Canada.

There are honest, hard-working, LAW-ABIDING people with zero history of violence, with no criminal records, who are waiting in line (sometimes for YEARS) before being allowed into Canada. The fact that this guy is still here in the country and milking the legal system just makes a mockery of the whole immigration system, and makes Canada look like a big joke.

I am sorry but this is completely unfair, people have bad times in life, younger people do stupid things... you never gotten drunk tuyen? you can be law abiding and still do something stupid. we don't know the circumstances as to how any of these things happened and it is not right to judge. maybe if you don't have anything useful to input into the topic you should restrain yourself from commenting...

 

[crassy]

I have to agree with creampop and charlie

I can't see any possibility you getting approved for the second stage regardless of you having the AIP (first stage) because the second stage actually focuses on the applicant (you) for security, medical and criminal history! so having those charges in your record will probably result in disapproval of second stage! people with Canadian citizenship can get deported for severe criminal charges let alone a person who is not even a PR!
if they do however drop all the charges if you agree to go home on your own then you might have a chance applying out land! which in my opinion is best option just as creampop suggested.

Canadian citizens cannot be deported. What can happen is that if citizenship was obtained fraudulently, it can be revoked and then they can be deported, but that takes years and a lot of legal proceedings, and it would go right up to the minister. However, it is illegal for a Canadian citizen who holds legal citizenship to be deported. Imagine the precedent that would set!

 

[scylla]

I agree with the other recommendations given.

Your best option is to leave Canada now and have the charged dropped. Then have your wife sponsor you for PR using the outland process. If you leave by November 14th as they have requested then no ARC will be required.

I think any other route is doomed to fail. You will be fored to leave Canada regardless and it will take you much longer to return.

But it's obviously your choice...

 

[Peaches14]

These charges regardless of whether they are dropped or not, whether you are innocent or not, will be recorded on file with the police department as at the very least, an incident, of which there are not one but two, very serious offenses. You have not denied that you are guilty of them, just that they are somebody else's fault. Even if you leave Canada and the sponsorship is done outside of Canada, when a police check in Canada is done it will show up on your record. Your lawyer is letting you know what he can do for you not what outcome he can guarantee. Your decision now will be based on how much more money and time you are willing to spend, whether or not you want to continue to put yourself and your loved ones through added stress and whether adding a possible criminal and deportation record to your profile is an option. I know you want to hear a positive side to this but there isn't one. Yes, we all make mistakes and we all have to pay for them one way or the other, at some time or another.

 

[Kollyjoe]

I thank you guys again for all those commets,But i want to clearify some issue about me applying for a arc or nots.
I was a refugee claimant, but the refugee was denied,appeal was denied,and my final lifeline Praa was also denied july 19th 2012,
Since then he has told me, since my praa is denied i have to leave. But he couldn't remove me since july because one of the court did not grant his request.and basically he requested that if they could stay those charges, he can remove me as i'm a subject of a removal order.and ones a refugee is denied in canada, authomatically, he/she becomes a subject of a removal order.
But now after 5 months also his request was granted.they agreed to "stay"both charges.
And he bought a ticket for me cos i told him i can't afford it.that is my whole situation.
Now are you guys saying if i leave on that very date he asked me to leave, i will not need an arc to return to canada.?and would a stayed charges be eligible for arc as i wasent convicted.and never had a conviction in my entire 5 years stay in canada.
With my sponsorship thing,my wife want me to filled everything up, and submit it to mississauge before for outland before i leave and again i don't have problem proving our relationship is genuie so trying to scritinize our relation wouldn't mean anything like i said we have overwheming evidence. The differences is the sponsorship i have in now is common law based.the new one we are doing now is spouse based.
Two key question.
Will i need arc or not and wht is the differences between someone who needs arc and me
And if i do need arc,will stayed charges affect it's ability of it getting approved. Or not because all that matters now is i have zero conviction and i would have fought those two charges succesfully.i already paid all the legal fees but my officer decision of me to leave even before those trial was a shocker.
Any helpful advice would be appreciated.

 

[McDutch]

Your wife/girlfriend pressed charges against you for assault. (Unless you are not talking about the same woman)
No matter how much evidence you think you have for your genuine relationship, this is a massive MASSIVE red flag for any officer.

Your chances are really really slim.

 

[scylla]

ARC information is here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/inadmissibility/arc.asp

ANY charges that are not completely dropped will have a huge impact on your sponsorship application and may very well result in your file being refused. You should read up on being inadmissible to Canada:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/inadmissibility/index.asp

As others have stated, your application will be reviewed by CIC very closely because as a failed refugee claimant, CIC will probably suspect you have entered into a marriage of convenience (MOC) just so you can remain in Canada.

 

[Kollyjoe]

Nope,! She did not, she was trying to scare me and everything took a whole a new turn, telling police i intensionally hit why i was driving which i did not.when police came they just told me im under arrest,without listening to any side of my story.this was pretty much an arument in a car that got her upset.she never meant it she was thing this was a joke.she cry everyday anytime we talk and apologise.because throughout our 4 years relationshp i never hit her.she is so reeckless that she call police on my about two years ago because i wouldnt give her my laptop.she was taken to her friend and i wasnt charged or anything because police found no wrong on my side.wgen i was arrested, she was suprised just because she said i hit her. But i wonder what any one will do when you are driving on hwy 401 and someone suddenly obstruct your view un xpectedly.why driving @ a speed between 100/120/hr.fear got into me and i had to get her away from my view.
Any.
And again about cic scrutinizing my relationship.we have a great history of living together here but either she come back home to marry me or we marry here before i leave. All im doing is just trying to save that cost of her coming which cost another 3000$.i just want to submit and outland application and then leave

 

[bagelbagel81]

Just a thought, but slow down?

 

[Forester2000]

I don't think you stand a chance either way buddy....maybe time for both of you to move to your home country. :

 

[tuyen]

I am sorry but this is completely unfair, people have bad times in life, younger people do stupid things...

If it happens once, it's an isolated incident that you can call being young and stupid. If it happens multiple times, it's called a pattern of behaviour.

you never gotten drunk tuyen?

No, I've never been drunk.
Does that shock you? Are you surprised that not EVERYBODY in the world is a total jackass with a history of bad behaviour?

you can be law abiding and still do something stupid. we don't know the circumstances as to how any of these things happened and it is not right to judge. maybe if you don't have anything useful to input into the topic you should restrain yourself from commenting...

No, I will not refrain from commenting. In Canada, we have what's called FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. It means we're allowed to voice our opinions, even when others might disagree with them. And just because YOU want to be all sensitive and feel sorry for people who deserve no sympathy, doesn't mean that EVERYONE feels the same way you do. Some of us want to help ensure that Canada remain a strong and decent country in which to raise our children and many future generations thereafter.

Allowing people with criminal charges into the country is a recipe for disaster. I don't care what their excuse is, or how "young and stupid" they were. There comes a point in life where your actions will have consequences. Sometimes it could take years (or even decades) for that to catch up with you, but eventually it will. And one place it should definitely catch up to everyone is at the Canadian border.

 

[Creampop]

you are right Canada has freedom of speech, most people just know when to use it! This is a immigration forum where people come for HELP and SUPPORT, not to be judge, but as my mother always told me growing up, opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one... this person hasn't even went to court yet so NO CONVICTION your gonna go and scream @ me about FREEDOM of SPEECH, what about INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY?

 

[Forester2000]

Actually he already admitted to driving WAY over the speed limit and having no regard for police officers. That's an admission of guilt in itself. Never mind compromising the safety of his Canadian girlfriend while breaking the speed limit. There is probably a very good reason why CIC refused his entry.

 

[Creampop]

Actually he already admitted to driving WAY over the speed limit and having no regard for police officers. That's an admission of guilt in itself. Never mind compromising the safety of his Canadian girlfriend while breaking the speed limit. There is probably a very good reason why CIC refused his entry.

130 is pretty normal for the 401, anyone who drives it daily would know... admitting to it or not still does not make it a conviction. and still a speeding ticket a reason for denying a immigration application, highly doubt that otherwise we could all be in that category. he also admitted that his GF called the cops to scare him, this is something that obviously backfired in her face as I am sure this isn't the outcome she had expected but I do know people do stupid things and understand that those stupid things are part of LIFE! anyway back to my point we come here for support, help, someone to just talk to who knows what you are going thru not to be treated like dirt under someone's feet.

 

[Forester2000]

Actually I have driven the 401 daily and 130 is excessive never mind illegal. Seems that breaking the law these days is OK just don't get caught or convicted!