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Ness_Fern

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Hi everyone!

This post is mainly for those who have applied towards the end of July or in August. I understand their chances of getting through are pretty dim (me included..!) but hopefully this is like a ray of hope for them. So just.. hang in there till you hear from the CIO.

I've been reading through some of the threads pertaining to NOC 1122 on this forum and a couple of things stand out:
1) A majority chunk of people have applied early July 2011
2) Only a handful of them have got their BDs or CCs charged till date
3) Almost all members on the forum are applicants. Do we have anyone who's a registered member of CIC? That would be helpful.

I felt, there were also a few general issues. For instance -
1) There isn't too much clarity on what exactly is the procedure followed by CIO Nova Scotia once the application has been received. To be specific, at what stage, exactly, is the CIC website updated; is it as soon as they receive the application or is it after the completeness check or is it once they encash your fees? Most of the responses here seem speculations based on what people report their application status to be.
2) People who've sent their applications early July, have they used the new set of forms? Or have they proceeded with the old forms? For people who's applications have reached CIO after 18th July, I guess it would be imperative to have the forms with 2D barcodes. Is there anyone who has sent their forms to CIO NS after 18th July without the 2D barcode form and have got the fees encashed by CIO? I doubt there would be anyone!

I'd like to give a little background here. My cousin is a registered member of CIC, based in Vancouver, Canada. She's been practising as a lawyer and an immigration consultant.
She handles cases from world over. And as far as I am concerned, I trust her judgement when it comes to how and what the immigration authorities think.

As for my personal case with respect to immigrating to Canada, I've been trying since 2 years now. Last year, I wasn't all that prepared with my documents and stuff, so missed out on being included in the cap by a real long shot.
This year I had everything in order, my entire file was set before 1st July (that's when the new rules were issued, along with some other forms) but my cousin had inside information that few forms were about to be revised. That happened only on the 4th of July, if I'm not mistaken. As a result of this, my cousin suggested that I re-do all the forms and send in the latest forms. I know the website mentions that old forms will be accepted till Nov 18, but as per my cousin, we shouldn't be risking that. Reason being, if they receive 2 applications, one with old forms and one with new on the same day and if its the final day for the cap to be reached and assuming only 1 application can be considered, the one with the latest forms will get through, hands down!!!
I ended up sending across my application to CIO only on 22nd Aug. Yeah! I know! Pretty late!

And till date, until I read the posts on this forum, I didn't know how big a deal that was coz my cousin seemed very positive about it.
What she mentioned was we need to religiously follow the count on the website. As long as it doesn't say that the cap has been reached, we can send our applications and there's a full possibility that it will be considered.
To my bad luck, my application reached CIO on 22nd morning and the site was updated by noon that the cap for 1122 has been reached. So, I'm quite on the edge here.

What happens with my application remains to be seen but I'd like to clear a few things that could be of help to future applicants -
I'll begin by quoting a case my cousin told me about. There were 2 applicants, one from the London VO and the other from the New Delhi, India VO.
Both applicants had the exact same qualification, same number of years of work experience, same age and all other criteria seemed fine.
Unfortunately, there was only 1 place left for the cap to be filled, and only 1 of them could make it through.
At such a time, the guy who applied through the London VO was chosen. I'm not sure as to why exactly they picked the person!
Of course, this incident was before the cap system was introduced and applicants were selected on basis of pure merit.

Basically, the point being, some of it still applies, when there are too many applicants. True that the system works on a first come - first serve basis but at times its a judgement call that the officers take.
Applicants with the most "relevant" experience are considered.
Tip: If your job reference letter has the exact wordings of the JD specified by the CIC for NOC 1122, your file is given a higher importance than others who don't have it.
Another thing is to have the latest forms in your application with all supporting documents intact and properly organized, thereby reducing the work for the officer.
If you have a close look at the application package and if you've been tracking all the forms since last year like I did, you would have noticed that a few forms were revised in November 2010, some were revised in Feb, March or Apr 2011, I'm not really sure on the dates. I ended up preparing my application package 3 times during the whole year, thanks to change in forms. But the moot point is, every form has a bar code like thing at the bottom of the page where the date is inscribed. During the completeness stage, CIO checks that all those dates are the latest. If they aren't, they straight reject your form. Most of these forms, when they're revised no official notification is put up on the CIC site, unless its a major one like the 2D barcode form that was changed lately. The download link is updated with the new form, that's it!
This is in addition to other criteira being met (proof of funds, fee clearance, documents needed etc)
One more parameter that's considered is your total score. The higher your score, the better your chances!

As per my cousin, the number updated on the website for applications received, is most likely before the completeness check happens. Not sure though! I'm open to discussing other theories. Problem is - there's no one to confirm it!
As applications keep getting rejected during the completeness check and payment clearance, other applicants stand a good chance to get through.

Ultimately, no one but the CIO can say who will get through and who won't but good indicators would be to keep tracking everyone who have applied post July 2011 or mid-Aug 2011. You could track whether their BDs or CCs are being encashed. More importantly who gets a rejection letter / email stating reason as cap filled. If we even manage to find one person with such a reason, we can safely assume that everyone who has applied after that will be rejected. Until then.. there is always hope! 8)

Good luck to all.... :)
 

Omo Naija

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Wow !!! :eek:

What a long read :'(

Nice points though ;D


Ness_Fern said:
Hi everyone!

This post is mainly for those who have applied towards the end of July or in August. I understand their chances of getting through are pretty dim (me included..!) but hopefully this is like a ray of hope for them. So just.. hang in there till you hear from the CIO.

I've been reading through some of the threads pertaining to NOC 1122 on this forum and a couple of things stand out:
1) A majority chunk of people have applied early July 2011
2) Only a handful of them have got their BDs or CCs charged till date
3) Almost all members on the forum are applicants. Do we have anyone who's a registered member of CIC? That would be helpful.

I felt, there were also a few general issues. For instance -
1) There isn't too much clarity on what exactly is the procedure followed by CIO Nova Scotia once the application has been received. To be specific, at what stage, exactly, is the CIC website updated; is it as soon as they receive the application or is it after the completeness check or is it once they encash your fees? Most of the responses here seem speculations based on what people report their application status to be.
2) People who've sent their applications early July, have they used the new set of forms? Or have they proceeded with the old forms? For people who's applications have reached CIO after 18th July, I guess it would be imperative to have the forms with 2D barcodes. Is there anyone who has sent their forms to CIO NS after 18th July without the 2D barcode form and have got the fees encashed by CIO? I doubt there would be anyone!

I'd like to give a little background here. My cousin is a registered member of CIC, based in Vancouver, Canada. She's been practising as a lawyer and an immigration consultant.
She handles cases from world over. And as far as I am concerned, I trust her judgement when it comes to how and what the immigration authorities think.

As for my personal case with respect to immigrating to Canada, I've been trying since 2 years now. Last year, I wasn't all that prepared with my documents and stuff, so missed out on being included in the cap by a real long shot.
This year I had everything in order, my entire file was set before 1st July (that's when the new rules were issued, along with some other forms) but my cousin had inside information that few forms were about to be revised. That happened only on the 4th of July, if I'm not mistaken. As a result of this, my cousin suggested that I re-do all the forms and send in the latest forms. I know the website mentions that old forms will be accepted till Nov 18, but as per my cousin, we shouldn't be risking that. Reason being, if they receive 2 applications, one with old forms and one with new on the same day and if its the final day for the cap to be reached and assuming only 1 application can be considered, the one with the latest forms will get through, hands down!!!
I ended up sending across my application to CIO only on 22nd Aug. Yeah! I know! Pretty late!

And till date, until I read the posts on this forum, I didn't know how big a deal that was coz my cousin seemed very positive about it.
What she mentioned was we need to religiously follow the count on the website. As long as it doesn't say that the cap has been reached, we can send our applications and there's a full possibility that it will be considered.
To my bad luck, my application reached CIO on 22nd morning and the site was updated by noon that the cap for 1122 has been reached. So, I'm quite on the edge here.

What happens with my application remains to be seen but I'd like to clear a few things that could be of help to future applicants -
I'll begin by quoting a case my cousin told me about. There were 2 applicants, one from the London VO and the other from the New Delhi, India VO.
Both applicants had the exact same qualification, same number of years of work experience, same age and all other criteria seemed fine.
Unfortunately, there was only 1 place left for the cap to be filled, and only 1 of them could make it through.
At such a time, the guy who applied through the London VO was chosen. I'm not sure as to why exactly they picked the person!
Of course, this incident was before the cap system was introduced and applicants were selected on basis of pure merit.

Basically, the point being, some of it still applies, when there are too many applicants. True that the system works on a first come - first serve basis but at times its a judgement call that the officers take.
Applicants with the most "relevant" experience are considered.
Tip: If your job reference letter has the exact wordings of the JD specified by the CIC for NOC 1122, your file is given a higher importance than others who don't have it.
Another thing is to have the latest forms in your application with all supporting documents intact and properly organized, thereby reducing the work for the officer.
If you have a close look at the application package and if you've been tracking all the forms since last year like I did, you would have noticed that a few forms were revised in November 2010, some were revised in Feb, March or Apr 2011, I'm not really sure on the dates. I ended up preparing my application package 3 times during the whole year, thanks to change in forms. But the moot point is, every form has a bar code like thing at the bottom of the page where the date is inscribed. During the completeness stage, CIO checks that all those dates are the latest. If they aren't, they straight reject your form. Most of these forms, when they're revised no official notification is put up on the CIC site, unless its a major one like the 2D barcode form that was changed lately. The download link is updated with the new form, that's it!
This is in addition to other criteira being met (proof of funds, fee clearance, documents needed etc)
One more parameter that's considered is your total score. The higher your score, the better your chances!

As per my cousin, the number updated on the website for applications received, is most likely before the completeness check happens. Not sure though! I'm open to discussing other theories. Problem is - there's no one to confirm it!
As applications keep getting rejected during the completeness check and payment clearance, other applicants stand a good chance to get through.

Ultimately, no one but the CIO can say who will get through and who won't but good indicators would be to keep tracking everyone who have applied post July 2011 or mid-Aug 2011. You could track whether their BDs or CCs are being encashed. More importantly who gets a rejection letter / email stating reason as cap filled. If we even manage to find one person with such a reason, we can safely assume that everyone who has applied after that will be rejected. Until then.. there is always hope! 8)

Good luck to all.... :)
 

Ness_Fern

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17-05-2017
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17-05-2017
AOR Received.
04-08-2017
IELTS Request
29-04-2017
Med's Request
17-05-2017
Med's Done....
13-07-2017
Passport Req..
28-08-2017
VISA ISSUED...
18-09-2017
LANDED..........
15-03-2018
Omo Naija said:
Wow !!! :eek:

What a long read :'(

Nice points though ;D
Thank you! :)
 

yon

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TAKE REST AND DO SOMETHING ELSE. 8) 8) 8)

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COOLIZIM

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Ness_Fern said:
Hi everyone!

This post is mainly for those who have applied towards the end of July or in August. I understand their chances of getting through are pretty dim (me included..!) but hopefully this is like a ray of hope for them. So just.. hang in there till you hear from the CIO.

I've been reading through some of the threads pertaining to NOC 1122 on this forum and a couple of things stand out:
1) A majority chunk of people have applied early July 2011
2) Only a handful of them have got their BDs or CCs charged till date
3) Almost all members on the forum are applicants. Do we have anyone who's a registered member of CIC? That would be helpful.

I felt, there were also a few general issues. For instance -
1) There isn't too much clarity on what exactly is the procedure followed by CIO Nova Scotia once the application has been received. To be specific, at what stage, exactly, is the CIC website updated; is it as soon as they receive the application or is it after the completeness check or is it once they encash your fees? Most of the responses here seem speculations based on what people report their application status to be.
2) People who've sent their applications early July, have they used the new set of forms? Or have they proceeded with the old forms? For people who's applications have reached CIO after 18th July, I guess it would be imperative to have the forms with 2D barcodes. Is there anyone who has sent their forms to CIO NS after 18th July without the 2D barcode form and have got the fees encashed by CIO? I doubt there would be anyone!

I'd like to give a little background here. My cousin is a registered member of CIC, based in Vancouver, Canada. She's been practising as a lawyer and an immigration consultant.
She handles cases from world over. And as far as I am concerned, I trust her judgement when it comes to how and what the immigration authorities think.

As for my personal case with respect to immigrating to Canada, I've been trying since 2 years now. Last year, I wasn't all that prepared with my documents and stuff, so missed out on being included in the cap by a real long shot.
This year I had everything in order, my entire file was set before 1st July (that's when the new rules were issued, along with some other forms) but my cousin had inside information that few forms were about to be revised. That happened only on the 4th of July, if I'm not mistaken. As a result of this, my cousin suggested that I re-do all the forms and send in the latest forms. I know the website mentions that old forms will be accepted till Nov 18, but as per my cousin, we shouldn't be risking that. Reason being, if they receive 2 applications, one with old forms and one with new on the same day and if its the final day for the cap to be reached and assuming only 1 application can be considered, the one with the latest forms will get through, hands down!!!
I ended up sending across my application to CIO only on 22nd Aug. Yeah! I know! Pretty late!

And till date, until I read the posts on this forum, I didn't know how big a deal that was coz my cousin seemed very positive about it.
What she mentioned was we need to religiously follow the count on the website. As long as it doesn't say that the cap has been reached, we can send our applications and there's a full possibility that it will be considered.
To my bad luck, my application reached CIO on 22nd morning and the site was updated by noon that the cap for 1122 has been reached. So, I'm quite on the edge here.

What happens with my application remains to be seen but I'd like to clear a few things that could be of help to future applicants -
I'll begin by quoting a case my cousin told me about. There were 2 applicants, one from the London VO and the other from the New Delhi, India VO.
Both applicants had the exact same qualification, same number of years of work experience, same age and all other criteria seemed fine.
Unfortunately, there was only 1 place left for the cap to be filled, and only 1 of them could make it through.
At such a time, the guy who applied through the London VO was chosen. I'm not sure as to why exactly they picked the person!
Of course, this incident was before the cap system was introduced and applicants were selected on basis of pure merit.

Basically, the point being, some of it still applies, when there are too many applicants. True that the system works on a first come - first serve basis but at times its a judgement call that the officers take.
Applicants with the most "relevant" experience are considered.
Tip: If your job reference letter has the exact wordings of the JD specified by the CIC for NOC 1122, your file is given a higher importance than others who don't have it.
Another thing is to have the latest forms in your application with all supporting documents intact and properly organized, thereby reducing the work for the officer.
If you have a close look at the application package and if you've been tracking all the forms since last year like I did, you would have noticed that a few forms were revised in November 2010, some were revised in Feb, March or Apr 2011, I'm not really sure on the dates. I ended up preparing my application package 3 times during the whole year, thanks to change in forms. But the moot point is, every form has a bar code like thing at the bottom of the page where the date is inscribed. During the completeness stage, CIO checks that all those dates are the latest. If they aren't, they straight reject your form. Most of these forms, when they're revised no official notification is put up on the CIC site, unless its a major one like the 2D barcode form that was changed lately. The download link is updated with the new form, that's it!
This is in addition to other criteira being met (proof of funds, fee clearance, documents needed etc)
One more parameter that's considered is your total score. The higher your score, the better your chances!

As per my cousin, the number updated on the website for applications received, is most likely before the completeness check happens. Not sure though! I'm open to discussing other theories. Problem is - there's no one to confirm it!
As applications keep getting rejected during the completeness check and payment clearance, other applicants stand a good chance to get through.

Ultimately, no one but the CIO can say who will get through and who won't but good indicators would be to keep tracking everyone who have applied post July 2011 or mid-Aug 2011. You could track whether their BDs or CCs are being encashed. More importantly who gets a rejection letter / email stating reason as cap filled. If we even manage to find one person with such a reason, we can safely assume that everyone who has applied after that will be rejected. Until then.. there is always hope! 8)

Good luck to all.... :)

Ness_Fern,

Great points you have raised +1 for you....

Please can you explain this" During the completeness stage, CIO checks that all those dates are the latest. If they aren't, they straight reject your form. Most of these forms, when they're revised no official notification is put up on the CIC site, unless its a major one like the 2D barcode form that was changed lately. The download link is updated with the new form, that's it!

What do you mean by the latest , do you mean the dates or the form itself?
 

Ness_Fern

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Toronto
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0125
Pre-Assessed..
Yes
App. Filed.......
04-08-2017
Doc's Request.
17-05-2017
Nomination.....
17-05-2017
AOR Received.
04-08-2017
IELTS Request
29-04-2017
Med's Request
17-05-2017
Med's Done....
13-07-2017
Passport Req..
28-08-2017
VISA ISSUED...
18-09-2017
LANDED..........
15-03-2018
Yon : Well, I have nothing better to do at the moment. Hence, the post! :p ..Thought, might as well be of some help to some one than whiling away time! :)

yon said:
TAKE REST AND DO SOMETHING ELSE. 8) 8) 8)

NO ONE ANSWERS OUR QUESTIONS EVEN YOU CALL CIC OFFICE. THEIR ANSWERS ARE STANDARD.
Coolizim : What I meant was, the application package consists of various forms, right?! Pick any one form and observe the bottom left hand corner. It has the form number and a date mentioned in brackets. For example, IMM 5476 (10-2008). Here, "10-1008" represents October 2008. This is the date when the form was revised. If you download the forms from the CIC website right now, every form will have a number similar to this. And most of them will state the date as "07-2011" i.e July 2011. That indicates its the latest..! This is what they check.
This is mainly a problem if you've been working on your file months in advance, which most of us do, coz obviously, it takes time to get all your documents in place, it doesn't happen overnight! And since downloading the forms from the website is something all of us do first, right at the beginning, we don't have a reason to go back to the website and check if anything's changed. That's where we're trapped.
I'm not sure but I think about 1 or 2 forms were revised sometime in April or May. By "revised" I mean, the form is the same, just the printed dates at the bottom of the form change. Hence, its a revised form! That's what matters! Content on the form remains the same.
I hope I've answered your question!

I again would like to stress on the point that this is just one of the probable reasons CIO could reject your file. Not something they have to do. It's likely to happen for a category like 1122 where demand is more than supply!

COOLIZIM said:
Ness_Fern,

Great points you have raised +1 for you....

Please can you explain this" During the completeness stage, CIO checks that all those dates are the latest. If they aren't, they straight reject your form. Most of these forms, when they're revised no official notification is put up on the CIC site, unless its a major one like the 2D barcode form that was changed lately. The download link is updated with the new form, that's it!

What do you mean by the latest , do you mean the dates or the form itself?
 

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Ness_Fern said:
Hi everyone!

This post is mainly for those who have applied towards the end of July or in August. I understand their chances of getting through are pretty dim (me included..!) but hopefully this is like a ray of hope for them. So just.. hang in there till you hear from the CIO.

I've been reading through some of the threads pertaining to NOC 1122 on this forum and a couple of things stand out:
1) A majority chunk of people have applied early July 2011
2) Only a handful of them have got their BDs or CCs charged till date
3) Almost all members on the forum are applicants. Do we have anyone who's a registered member of CIC? That would be helpful.

I felt, there were also a few general issues. For instance -
1) There isn't too much clarity on what exactly is the procedure followed by CIO Nova Scotia once the application has been received. To be specific, at what stage, exactly, is the CIC website updated; is it as soon as they receive the application or is it after the completeness check or is it once they encash your fees? Most of the responses here seem speculations based on what people report their application status to be.
2) People who've sent their applications early July, have they used the new set of forms? Or have they proceeded with the old forms? For people who's applications have reached CIO after 18th July, I guess it would be imperative to have the forms with 2D barcodes. Is there anyone who has sent their forms to CIO NS after 18th July without the 2D barcode form and have got the fees encashed by CIO? I doubt there would be anyone!

I'd like to give a little background here. My cousin is a registered member of CIC, based in Vancouver, Canada. She's been practising as a lawyer and an immigration consultant.
She handles cases from world over. And as far as I am concerned, I trust her judgement when it comes to how and what the immigration authorities think.

As for my personal case with respect to immigrating to Canada, I've been trying since 2 years now. Last year, I wasn't all that prepared with my documents and stuff, so missed out on being included in the cap by a real long shot.
This year I had everything in order, my entire file was set before 1st July (that's when the new rules were issued, along with some other forms) but my cousin had inside information that few forms were about to be revised. That happened only on the 4th of July, if I'm not mistaken. As a result of this, my cousin suggested that I re-do all the forms and send in the latest forms. I know the website mentions that old forms will be accepted till Nov 18, but as per my cousin, we shouldn't be risking that. Reason being, if they receive 2 applications, one with old forms and one with new on the same day and if its the final day for the cap to be reached and assuming only 1 application can be considered, the one with the latest forms will get through, hands down!!!
I ended up sending across my application to CIO only on 22nd Aug. Yeah! I know! Pretty late!

And till date, until I read the posts on this forum, I didn't know how big a deal that was coz my cousin seemed very positive about it.
What she mentioned was we need to religiously follow the count on the website. As long as it doesn't say that the cap has been reached, we can send our applications and there's a full possibility that it will be considered.
To my bad luck, my application reached CIO on 22nd morning and the site was updated by noon that the cap for 1122 has been reached. So, I'm quite on the edge here.

What happens with my application remains to be seen but I'd like to clear a few things that could be of help to future applicants -
I'll begin by quoting a case my cousin told me about. There were 2 applicants, one from the London VO and the other from the New Delhi, India VO.
Both applicants had the exact same qualification, same number of years of work experience, same age and all other criteria seemed fine.
Unfortunately, there was only 1 place left for the cap to be filled, and only 1 of them could make it through.
At such a time, the guy who applied through the London VO was chosen. I'm not sure as to why exactly they picked the person!
Of course, this incident was before the cap system was introduced and applicants were selected on basis of pure merit.

Basically, the point being, some of it still applies, when there are too many applicants. True that the system works on a first come - first serve basis but at times its a judgement call that the officers take.
Applicants with the most "relevant" experience are considered.
Tip: If your job reference letter has the exact wordings of the JD specified by the CIC for NOC 1122, your file is given a higher importance than others who don't have it.
Another thing is to have the latest forms in your application with all supporting documents intact and properly organized, thereby reducing the work for the officer.
If you have a close look at the application package and if you've been tracking all the forms since last year like I did, you would have noticed that a few forms were revised in November 2010, some were revised in Feb, March or Apr 2011, I'm not really sure on the dates. I ended up preparing my application package 3 times during the whole year, thanks to change in forms. But the moot point is, every form has a bar code like thing at the bottom of the page where the date is inscribed. During the completeness stage, CIO checks that all those dates are the latest. If they aren't, they straight reject your form. Most of these forms, when they're revised no official notification is put up on the CIC site, unless its a major one like the 2D barcode form that was changed lately. The download link is updated with the new form, that's it!
This is in addition to other criteira being met (proof of funds, fee clearance, documents needed etc)
One more parameter that's considered is your total score. The higher your score, the better your chances!

As per my cousin, the number updated on the website for applications received, is most likely before the completeness check happens. Not sure though! I'm open to discussing other theories. Problem is - there's no one to confirm it!
As applications keep getting rejected during the completeness check and payment clearance, other applicants stand a good chance to get through.

Ultimately, no one but the CIO can say who will get through and who won't but good indicators would be to keep tracking everyone who have applied post July 2011 or mid-Aug 2011. You could track whether their BDs or CCs are being encashed. More importantly who gets a rejection letter / email stating reason as cap filled. If we even manage to find one person with such a reason, we can safely assume that everyone who has applied after that will be rejected. Until then.. there is always hope! 8)

Good luck to all.... :)
Ness_fern

Appreciate the time and effort spend on writing this.
Indeed thoughts to ponder but I am afraid there are unclear questions ,some being quite relevant.
1. You have mentioned a scenario where two applications with same criteria was send to the NS office but they picked the one from London VO. Why would this be the case when it happened before the cap quota was introduced? Ideally they should have allowed both through and I cant resist but say, these are speculated scenarios.
2. It does not matter if the applicants have used the old or new forms as it clearly says on the CIC website that they will start rejecting them only after 14th Nov 11. I really hope that you make it but think that you delayed it a bit although you were on top of the game - with a cousin who is a registered member of CIC & experience she may have shared with last years data - NOC 1122 was the first to be capped in 4 months although it was newly introduced. Yes of course, it is advisable to use the new forms but there is no harm if you have all the necessary docs & can meet the criteria of 67 pts.
3. According to OP 6 manual, it says that all applications that successfully pass the completeness check is considered although the cap is met with an earlier application received on the same day. [This info was shared in earlier posts by other members]
4. We have seen number of applicants in this forum who were rejected as they used the exact wording to describe the job roles & responsibilities. An exact replica will only do harm as CIC do not want to see a copy/paste but a description of your actual duties to compare and see if there is 70-80% match.
5. Not an argument but I do not think the numbers updated on the website are of applications received - below is how the info reads. ''The number of COMPLETE Federal Skilled Worker applications received as of X, 2011 is approximate''. If it is the prior,then they would end up updating the count as 500 but will have a shortfall if a large count of applications are deemed incomplete.

We all have speculations on what is happening and we can only hope for the best - fingers crossed !

Sanity
 

yon

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Hi Ness,

possible to ask your cousin 's sistor whether her firm received the application back in local office of Vancouver ?

Ness_Fern said:
Yon : Well, I have nothing better to do at the moment. Hence, the post! :p ..Thought, might as well be of some help to some one than whiling away time! :)
 

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sanity said:
Ness_fern


2. It does not matter if the applicants have used the old or new forms as it clearly says on the CIC website that they will start rejecting them only after 14th Nov 11. I really hope that you make it but think that you delayed it a bit although you were on top of the game - with a cousin who is a registered member of CIC & experience she may have shared with last years data - NOC 1122 was the first to be capped in 4 months although it was newly introduced. Yes of course, it is advisable to use the new forms but there is no harm if you have all the necessary docs & can meet the criteria of 67 pts.

Sanity
Thanks sanity, i totally i agree with you ,
@Ness_Fern

Moreover , many of applicants who sent there applications forms before July the 1st get their CC/BD enchashed before july applications been updated (07-2011) which means the CIC did not reject their applications because of this reasons
 

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sanity said:
Ness_fern

Hi there,

I've just checked the status of my BD, it has not yet got encashed :(. My app. reached on 13th July'11. As per my consultant my application was one of the strongest as the roles and responsibilities were a perfect match with NOC 1122 (I'm not sure about this compliment/comment from her, as I've been reading a lot about fraud consultants). Let's see what is going to happen....
 

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Sanity:

I agree with what you have to say, most of the things are, indeed, speculations.

The case I mentioned is quite old, and it did happen. Its a personal thing but as much as I read responses on forums like this one, I get the feeling that CIO does have a preference for London VO. Why.. I'm not sure! It's just something I feel, not based on any facts and stories like these strengthen the feeling all the more. My cousin got her immigration done about 6 years back. She got through from the London VO. She's an Indian citizen but at that time was living in Middle East. Hence, she could apply through London VO. She was even called for an interview, which she and her family cleared.

My case, was a classic one of tragedy. Long story and very difficult to explain about why I didn't make it in time last year. I like to believe at times one is just not destined for it. We can all do our bit to make it happen but even my cousin says, there's a certain amount of luck factor involved. Moreover, the wait period paid off for me. This year when I applied, my score is easily over 70... 73 to be precise! Sadly, I really don't think I'll make it through!

I wasn't aware about Point #3 that you mentioned. Wow! That's definitely a sign of little relief. Thanks for the update!!! :)

I agree with your last point. In my opinion, the numbers mentioned on the website for applications received are after the completeness check has been done.

Really hope some applicant from the late-July or early-Aug batch confirms something atleast.
Forums like these are the best way to get information.

Cheers!

P.S. Thanks for the update on encashment! :)



Coolizim :

I'm not really sure if I'm making any sense in what I'm about to say but this is what my cousin had explained to me initially. I hope I'm recollecting it right..!

What she said was, the CIO maintains records of applications and works on them on a per annum basis i.e from July to June.
Hence, for example, if last year (in 2010) NOC 1122 was capped in 4 months i.e in October / November, any applications received after that till end June 2011, will be rejected because the category has not opened up for the next year. Only once the official announcement is out, people can start sending in their applications. And this year, I guess, the announcement was out towards the last week of June or first week July. So that's when one gets considered for this years quota.

Do you know of any applicants who sent their forms before July 2011 i.e. sometime end-June 2011 and their BDs or CCs have been encashed??
I'm guessing even though the applicant's might have posted their applications end-June, it must have landed at CIO NS only after 1st July, which is why it's being considered.


Yon :

I'm confused! Who's application are we discussing? If you're asking about mine... My cousin had suggested that I send my application independently, for tax reasons on her part as she was providing a free service. So although, she did scrutinize my file and have a look over it and ensure everything was in place, if at all the application is returned, it would be delivered to my home address in India. Will definitely update it out here, if that happens!!! I haven't asked her about others files though. She didn't have too many 1122 applications this year. There were mostly doctors and investors cases she was working on.
 

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I am surprised by the number of people who thought the advice on this one post was a lot of help. Guys, please beware what you believe. Inaccurate and misleading information such as those in the text below may cost you your application, and therefore your dream of making it to Canada. The CIC website and the its program guides are pretty straightforward. You hardly need any outside guidance if you just read the instructions carefully.

For now, out of genuine concern for everybody, let me just say:

1. my cousin had inside information that few forms were about to be revised - This hardly counts as insider information. If you subscribed to the CIC updates via their media centre, you would have had this information way before July 1. Alternately, you could have simply googled "Federal Skilled Worker Canada updates 2011" before July 1, just as I did, and found out what the new policies were, and whether or not there was any need to use new forms.

2.if they receive 2 applications, one with old forms and one with new on the same day and if its the final day for the cap to be reached and assuming only 1 application can be considered, the one with the latest forms will get through, hands down! Simply NOT TRUE. You just might have missed the cap because of the ill advise of your cousin to unnecessarily revise completely filled out perfectly acceptable forms.

3. If your job reference letter has the exact wordings of the JD specified by the CIC for NOC 1122, your file is given a higher importance than others who don't have it. NOT ONLY IS THIS NOT TRUE, IT IS ALSO THE SURE WAY TO GET YOUR APPLICATION REJECTED. There are two ways to validate my statement here: 1) use your logic, 2) read the CIC guide for crying out loud.

4. The higher your score, the better your chances! NOT TRUE. Just cross the threshold of 67 and you should be ok. You have as much chances as any Tom, Dick, and Harry who obtained 70 or better.

Now guys, I have had the good fortune of having met some incredibly wonderful people in this forum who I am sure will make wonderful neighbors for me and my family in Canada. I want them to get through the process successfully. I am saying my piece now because I have seen too many unqualified opinions (purporting to be "insider information") that may just get in the way of their successful application.

Ness_Fern said:
Hi everyone!

This post is mainly for those who have applied towards the end of July or in August. I understand their chances of getting through are pretty dim (me included..!) but hopefully this is like a ray of hope for them. So just.. hang in there till you hear from the CIO.

I've been reading through some of the threads pertaining to NOC 1122 on this forum and a couple of things stand out:
1) A majority chunk of people have applied early July 2011
2) Only a handful of them have got their BDs or CCs charged till date
3) Almost all members on the forum are applicants. Do we have anyone who's a registered member of CIC? That would be helpful.

I felt, there were also a few general issues. For instance -
1) There isn't too much clarity on what exactly is the procedure followed by CIO Nova Scotia once the application has been received. To be specific, at what stage, exactly, is the CIC website updated; is it as soon as they receive the application or is it after the completeness check or is it once they encash your fees? Most of the responses here seem speculations based on what people report their application status to be.
2) People who've sent their applications early July, have they used the new set of forms? Or have they proceeded with the old forms? For people who's applications have reached CIO after 18th July, I guess it would be imperative to have the forms with 2D barcodes. Is there anyone who has sent their forms to CIO NS after 18th July without the 2D barcode form and have got the fees encashed by CIO? I doubt there would be anyone!

I'd like to give a little background here. My cousin is a registered member of CIC, based in Vancouver, Canada. She's been practising as a lawyer and an immigration consultant.
She handles cases from world over. And as far as I am concerned, I trust her judgement when it comes to how and what the immigration authorities think.

As for my personal case with respect to immigrating to Canada, I've been trying since 2 years now. Last year, I wasn't all that prepared with my documents and stuff, so missed out on being included in the cap by a real long shot.
This year I had everything in order, my entire file was set before 1st July (that's when the new rules were issued, along with some other forms) but my cousin had inside information that few forms were about to be revised. That happened only on the 4th of July, if I'm not mistaken. As a result of this, my cousin suggested that I re-do all the forms and send in the latest forms. I know the website mentions that old forms will be accepted till Nov 18, but as per my cousin, we shouldn't be risking that. Reason being, if they receive 2 applications, one with old forms and one with new on the same day and if its the final day for the cap to be reached and assuming only 1 application can be considered, the one with the latest forms will get through, hands down!!!
I ended up sending across my application to CIO only on 22nd Aug. Yeah! I know! Pretty late!

And till date, until I read the posts on this forum, I didn't know how big a deal that was coz my cousin seemed very positive about it.
What she mentioned was we need to religiously follow the count on the website. As long as it doesn't say that the cap has been reached, we can send our applications and there's a full possibility that it will be considered.
To my bad luck, my application reached CIO on 22nd morning and the site was updated by noon that the cap for 1122 has been reached. So, I'm quite on the edge here.

What happens with my application remains to be seen but I'd like to clear a few things that could be of help to future applicants -
I'll begin by quoting a case my cousin told me about. There were 2 applicants, one from the London VO and the other from the New Delhi, India VO.
Both applicants had the exact same qualification, same number of years of work experience, same age and all other criteria seemed fine.
Unfortunately, there was only 1 place left for the cap to be filled, and only 1 of them could make it through.
At such a time, the guy who applied through the London VO was chosen. I'm not sure as to why exactly they picked the person!
Of course, this incident was before the cap system was introduced and applicants were selected on basis of pure merit.

Basically, the point being, some of it still applies, when there are too many applicants. True that the system works on a first come - first serve basis but at times its a judgement call that the officers take.
Applicants with the most "relevant" experience are considered.
Tip: If your job reference letter has the exact wordings of the JD specified by the CIC for NOC 1122, your file is given a higher importance than others who don't have it.
Another thing is to have the latest forms in your application with all supporting documents intact and properly organized, thereby reducing the work for the officer.
If you have a close look at the application package and if you've been tracking all the forms since last year like I did, you would have noticed that a few forms were revised in November 2010, some were revised in Feb, March or Apr 2011, I'm not really sure on the dates. I ended up preparing my application package 3 times during the whole year, thanks to change in forms. But the moot point is, every form has a bar code like thing at the bottom of the page where the date is inscribed. During the completeness stage, CIO checks that all those dates are the latest. If they aren't, they straight reject your form. Most of these forms, when they're revised no official notification is put up on the CIC site, unless its a major one like the 2D barcode form that was changed lately. The download link is updated with the new form, that's it!
This is in addition to other criteira being met (proof of funds, fee clearance, documents needed etc)
One more parameter that's considered is your total score. The higher your score, the better your chances!

As per my cousin, the number updated on the website for applications received, is most likely before the completeness check happens. Not sure though! I'm open to discussing other theories. Problem is - there's no one to confirm it!
As applications keep getting rejected during the completeness check and payment clearance, other applicants stand a good chance to get through.

Ultimately, no one but the CIO can say who will get through and who won't but good indicators would be to keep tracking everyone who have applied post July 2011 or mid-Aug 2011. You could track whether their BDs or CCs are being encashed. More importantly who gets a rejection letter / email stating reason as cap filled. If we even manage to find one person with such a reason, we can safely assume that everyone who has applied after that will be rejected. Until then.. there is always hope! 8)

Good luck to all.... :)
 

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Apologies for putting this negative information first on this forum

"All those applicants who claimed to have received an email from CIC about NOC 1122 CAP getting hit on 08/07/2011 and their applications getting returned because of this reason were "ABSOLUTELY RIGHT".

I hereby confirm the return of my application from CIC, NS. My consultant's branch office in Canada has received a couple of applications back from CIC stating that the CAP was hit. My application was received on 13/07/2011.

Even I require some time to digest this information, but this is a FACT.
 

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alaindotcom said:
I am surprised by the number of people who thought the advice on this one post was a lot of help. Guys, please beware what you believe. Inaccurate and misleading information such as those in the text below may cost you your application, and therefore your dream of making it to Canada. The CIC website and the its program guides are pretty straightforward. You hardly need any outside guidance if you just read the instructions carefully.

For now, out of genuine concern for everybody, let me just say:

1. my cousin had inside information that few forms were about to be revised - This hardly counts as insider information. If you subscribed to the CIC updates via their media centre, you would have had this information way before July 1. Alternately, you could have simply googled "Federal Skilled Worker Canada updates 2011" before July 1, just as I did, and found out what the new policies were, and whether or not there was any need to use new forms.

2.if they receive 2 applications, one with old forms and one with new on the same day and if its the final day for the cap to be reached and assuming only 1 application can be considered, the one with the latest forms will get through, hands down! Simply NOT TRUE. You just might have missed the cap because of the ill advise of your cousin to unnecessarily revise completely filled out perfectly acceptable forms.

3. If your job reference letter has the exact wordings of the JD specified by the CIC for NOC 1122, your file is given a higher importance than others who don't have it. NOT ONLY IS THIS NOT TRUE, IT IS ALSO THE SURE WAY TO GET YOUR APPLICATION REJECTED. There are two ways to validate my statement here: 1) use your logic, 2) read the CIC guide for crying out loud.

4. The higher your score, the better your chances! NOT TRUE. Just cross the threshold of 67 and you should be ok. You have as much chances as any Tom, Dick, and Harry who obtained 70 or better.

Now guys, I have had the good fortune of having met some incredibly wonderful people in this forum who I am sure will make wonderful neighbors for me and my family in Canada. I want them to get through the process successfully. I am saying my piece now because I have seen too many unqualified opinions (purporting to be "insider information") that may just get in the way of their successful application.
i agree!!