1122 Post Application ON July 2011 Lets Share

[Omo Naija]

WOW... SO SORRY TO HEAR THIS :'(

It is well...

Hello dear forum members. We received NER one hour ago.


FSW-Centralized-Intake-Office FSW-Centralized_Intake-Office @ cic.gc.ca


FEDERAL SKILLED WORKER
CENTRALIZED INTAKE OFFICE
P.O. BOX 7500
SYDNEY, NS B1P0A9


UCI: xxxxxxxx

*xxxxxxxx*


Application: E0000xxxxx

*E0000xxxxx*


Dear xxxxx xxxxx:


This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada as a Federal Skilled Worker. I have now completed the assessment of your application and have determined that you are not eligible for processing in this category for the following reason(s):

The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration issued Instructions which were published in the Canada Gazette on June 25, 2011. Only applicants who meet the criteria specified in these Ministerial Instructions are eligible to be processed in the Federal Skilled Worker class.

You have indicated that you have work experience in an occupation with the following NOC (National Occupational Classification) code: 1122. Although this NOC code corresponds to the occupations specified in the Instructions identified by the Minister, you have not provided sufficient evidence that you performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation or that you performed a substantial number of the main duties of the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC, including all of the essential duties.

After taking into consideration the work experience supporting documentation on file, I am not satisfied that you have performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation or that you performed a substantial number of the main duties of the position as described in NOC. As such, I am not satisfied that you are a 1122 – PROFESSIONAL OCCUPATIONS IN BUSINESS SERVICES TO MANAGEMENT.

Since you did not provide evidence that you have an Arranged Employment Offer, you do not meet the requirements of the Ministerial Instructions and your application is not eligible for processing

Note: Any reference to work experience in a NOC code other than those identified by the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration and published in the Canada Gazette on June 25, 2011 is not assessed for eligibility under Ministerial Instructions.

Your application, therefore, does not meet the requirements of the Ministerial Instructions.

Subsections 87.3(2)-(3) are the pertinent sections of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act:

The processing of applications and requests is to be conducted in a manner that, in the opinion of the Minister, will best support the attainment of the immigration goals established by the Government of Canada.

...the Minister may give instructions with respect to the processing of applications and requests, including instructions

(a) establishing categories of applications or requests to which the instructions apply;

(b) establishing an order, by category or otherwise, for the processing of applications or requests;

(c) setting the number of applications or requests, by category or otherwise, to be processed in any year; and

(d) providing for the disposition of applications and requests, including those made subsequent to the first application or request.



The processing fee and, if applicable, the Right of Permanent Residence Fee that you paid are refundable. You will receive a cheque within eight to twelve weeks OR if you paid by credit card you will receive a credit on the credit card provided within eight to twelve weeks.

The refund cheque will be sent to the address provided in your application. If you have changed your address please advise us immediately of the new address. Address changes should be faxed to (902) 270-3561. PLEASE NOTE THIS FAX IS ONLY FOR ADDRESS CHANGES.


Note:

Any requests made on the basis of humanitarian and compassionate grounds accompanying a Federal Skilled Worker application cannot be processed unless the application is otherwise eligible for processing under the Ministerial Instructions.

Any requests for positive substituted evaluation accompanying a Federal Skilled Worker application cannot be processed unless the application has met the minimum requirements outlined under Regulation 75(2).

There are many ways to immigrate to Canada. Although you have not satisfied the requirements to apply under the Federal Skilled Worker class, you may qualify under another category. To learn more about your options, visit http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.asp.


Thank you for your interest in Canada.

 

[richardo3]

Helloooo Guys...it has been a while....i just received an email from CIO as follow:

Good Morning

I can currently find no record of your submission. This, however, does not indicate we have not received it. We currently have a large intake of files. Please allow an addition 3 to 4 weeks for the creation of a record. Please re-inquire then.

Thank you

D.A.

Hi - is this the full response? Its not written in good English....?? 'Please allow an addition 3 to 4 weeks ....' is not correct and doesn't make sense....

 

[echoes1978]

Sad news. But can you tell what work experience documents you submited at CIO ??? This will clear the situation to others. And if all is correct than why they give NER ? So please tell all of us the details of you work exp.

Beside detailed job duties explained in Schedule 3 form by myself, I submitted employment contracts (although on my employment contracts it's written that they represent very strong business secret and must not be shared with anyone).

I also submitted 2 reference letters from my current and my previous colleagues. I can't submit reference letter from my supervisor since in this crazy country in which I live in, you can get fired because you want to leave the company (by asking your references). Also in HR department there is a woman who is in affair with my boss and she will tell him about me asking references. At this stage of application that is not possible for me to do and I told that to CIC.

I also submitted pension insurance and health insurance confirmations from which can clearly be seen that I'm working full time with job title BUSINESS DEVELOPER AND ANALYST.

Why the hell did Vienna visa office mentioned on their checklist that if we can't submit reference letters, that we can send written explanation?

Can I go to the court with that Vienna visa office checklist fact and put an appeal ?

 

[gladiusraj]

Yes you can go court my friend. Can you tell me the job duties you explained in schedule 3 form is also mentioned on companies letter head ???? Or it's only in schedule 3 form ???
I mean the duties letter is on company letter head or only in that form ? Please clear.......
Secondly have you also submite the salary related documents or not ?

Beside detailed job duties explained in Schedule 3 form by myself, I submitted employment contracts (although on my employment contracts it's written that they represent very strong business secret and must not be shared with anyone).

I also submitted 2 reference letters from my current and my previous colleagues. I can't submit reference letter from my supervisor since in this crazy country in which I live in, you can get fired because you want to leave the company (by asking your references). Also in HR department there is a woman who is in affair with my boss and she will tell him about me asking references. At this stage of application that is not possible for me to do and I told that to CIC.

I also submitted pension insurance and health insurance confirmations from which can clearly be seen that I'm working full time with job title BUSINESS DEVELOPER AND ANALYST.

Why the hell did Vienna visa office mentioned on their checklist that if we can't submit reference letters, that we can send written explanation?

Can I go to the court with that Vienna visa office checklist fact and put an appeal ?

 

[spicey]

Hello dear forum members. We received NER one hour ago.


FSW-Centralized-Intake-Office FSW-Centralized_Intake-Office @ cic.gc.ca


FEDERAL SKILLED WORKER
CENTRALIZED INTAKE OFFICE
P.O. BOX 7500
SYDNEY, NS B1P0A9


UCI: xxxxxxxx

*xxxxxxxx*


Application: E0000xxxxx

*E0000xxxxx*


Dear xxxxx xxxxx:


This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada as a Federal Skilled Worker. I have now completed the assessment of your application and have determined that you are not eligible for processing in this category for the following reason(s):

The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration issued Instructions which were published in the Canada Gazette on June 25, 2011. Only applicants who meet the criteria specified in these Ministerial Instructions are eligible to be processed in the Federal Skilled Worker class.

You have indicated that you have work experience in an occupation with the following NOC (National Occupational Classification) code: 1122. Although this NOC code corresponds to the occupations specified in the Instructions identified by the Minister, you have not provided sufficient evidence that you performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation or that you performed a substantial number of the main duties of the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC, including all of the essential duties.

After taking into consideration the work experience supporting documentation on file, I am not satisfied that you have performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation or that you performed a substantial number of the main duties of the position as described in NOC. As such, I am not satisfied that you are a 1122  PROFESSIONAL OCCUPATIONS IN BUSINESS SERVICES TO MANAGEMENT.

Since you did not provide evidence that you have an Arranged Employment Offer, you do not meet the requirements of the Ministerial Instructions and your application is not eligible for processing

Note: Any reference to work experience in a NOC code other than those identified by the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration and published in the Canada Gazette on June 25, 2011 is not assessed for eligibility under Ministerial Instructions.

Your application, therefore, does not meet the requirements of the Ministerial Instructions.

Subsections 87.3(2)-(3) are the pertinent sections of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act:

The processing of applications and requests is to be conducted in a manner that, in the opinion of the Minister, will best support the attainment of the immigration goals established by the Government of Canada.

...the Minister may give instructions with respect to the processing of applications and requests, including instructions

(a) establishing categories of applications or requests to which the instructions apply;

(b) establishing an order, by category or otherwise, for the processing of applications or requests;

(c) setting the number of applications or requests, by category or otherwise, to be processed in any year; and

(d) providing for the disposition of applications and requests, including those made subsequent to the first application or request.



The processing fee and, if applicable, the Right of Permanent Residence Fee that you paid are refundable. You will receive a cheque within eight to twelve weeks OR if you paid by credit card you will receive a credit on the credit card provided within eight to twelve weeks.

The refund cheque will be sent to the address provided in your application. If you have changed your address please advise us immediately of the new address. Address changes should be faxed to (902) 270-3561. PLEASE NOTE THIS FAX IS ONLY FOR ADDRESS CHANGES.


Note:

Any requests made on the basis of humanitarian and compassionate grounds accompanying a Federal Skilled Worker application cannot be processed unless the application is otherwise eligible for processing under the Ministerial Instructions.

Any requests for positive substituted evaluation accompanying a Federal Skilled Worker application cannot be processed unless the application has met the minimum requirements outlined under Regulation 75(2).

There are many ways to immigrate to Canada. Although you have not satisfied the requirements to apply under the Federal Skilled Worker class, you may qualify under another category. To learn more about your options, visit http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.asp.


Thank you for your interest in Canada.

Dear echoes1978,
Am speechless as you need to urgently put yourself together and do them a mail for reconsideration.

Am present day employers cannot disclosure the data of their existing staff except for some cadres of staff hence the Written Explanation.

The VO checklist was correct until July 18th when the new CIO checklist comprised that of the visa offices.

I hope you seek advise from Qarax,Wanne and other champion forumities.

Hope it helps.

 

[COOLIZIM]

Hi - is this the full response? Its not written in good English....?? 'Please allow an addition 3 to 4 weeks ....' is not correct and doesn't make sense....

@ Recardo...This is the exact email i've received

 

[COOLIZIM]

It's a positive sign I feel. B'coz your application is reached on 2nd Aug 2011 that means only 1 and half month is complete of your application. Secondly the timeline for CIO of giving AOR/PER is 90 days. I think you should wait for 4 weeks. They are right buddy

I dont think its positive or negative..it just an indication that they did not open my file yet....

 

[echoes1978]

Yes you can go court my friend. Can you tell me the job duties you explained in schedule 3 form is also mentioned on companies letter head ???? Or it's only in schedule 3 form ???
I mean the duties letter is on company letter head or only in that form ? Please clear.......
Secondly have you also submite the salary related documents or not ?

yes, all job duties which my colleagues signed are on company letter head and on Schedule 3 form and salary was mentioned in employment contract as a monthly salary amount which will be paid 12 times a year

I will send you PM shortly

 

[HelloCanada!]

Sorry, echoes1978, that was a nice try anyways...
You can apply under province programme, some immigration agencies assist to get job offer quite fast. Don't waste your time with cort thoughts, it's really useless and will create just more problems for you. I think as NOC 1122 in highly competetive, they reject applications if they have even a minimum concern about it. Looks like they choose only the best of the best for this occupation. Even the fact you are from Europe didn't help. Also now it's clear that even if CC was charged it does't garantee anything...
Well, good luck to all who still in the race!

 

[alaindotcom]

Beside detailed job duties explained in Schedule 3 form by myself, I submitted employment contracts (although on my employment contracts it's written that they represent very strong business secret and must not be shared with anyone).

I also submitted 2 reference letters from my current and my previous colleagues. I can't submit reference letter from my supervisor since in this crazy country in which I live in, you can get fired because you want to leave the company (by asking your references). Also in HR department there is a woman who is in affair with my boss and she will tell him about me asking references. At this stage of application that is not possible for me to do and I told that to CIC.

I also submitted pension insurance and health insurance confirmations from which can clearly be seen that I'm working full time with job title BUSINESS DEVELOPER AND ANALYST.

Why the hell did Vienna visa office mentioned on their checklist that if we can't submit reference letters, that we can send written explanation?

Can I go to the court with that Vienna visa office checklist fact and put an appeal ?

I am sorry to learn about your NER, echoes. Did you submit a detailed job description for your Business Developer and Analyst role (even one that is not certified by your employer)? Your job title may have watered-down your application as there is a different NOC for business development altogether.

I wish you luck in your next steps. Please continue to share your experiences in the forum as you move towards your Plan B or C, etc. I have not received a PER yet so I am all for exploring other avenues for immigrating to Canada, just in case I also need a Plan B or C.

 

[momad]

congratulations to all of you who have recevied a favourable response.

just a word of advise.

accoring to my consultant - CIO is heavily loaded with the volume of applications recived to date. therefore there is a severe backlog in processing (the number of visa officers and the number of applications they can process per day is limited) given this information, i think that they would not find it feasible to allocate personell to update records and reply our little emails.

(my strong opinion is) the CIO will dedicate most of its workforce to clear backlogs. responding to emails will not be priority. so they would probably have a standard response depending on the date of your application reaching the CIO.

if you think about it, the first week they received several thousand applications for all NOC (mentioned elsewhere in this forum), if they had 20 application procesing officers checking 20 applications per person per day that is only 2000 per week. 20 processing officers in a country like canada is a fantasy. so you can imagine how slow it will be.

so my suggestion is, hold back and wait. nothing is concrete until your application either receives a PER or you receive it back by post. being eager and sending emails is not helping us but throwing us into deeper confusion and more guessing.



hope my thoughts help some of you.

 

[AVSNEH]

It should not be only on Companies letter head but duly signed by your Manager (Sr. Manager) or HR Head.....
Company Stamp should also be there...... Above comment is given by my consultant before applying to this process....

The same problem was there with my organisation but i clearly said to my VP-HR and asked for my exp. letter.

Yes you can go court my friend. Can you tell me the job duties you explained in schedule 3 form is also mentioned on companies letter head ???? Or it's only in schedule 3 form ???
I mean the duties letter is on company letter head or only in that form ? Please clear.......
Secondly have you also submite the salary related documents or not ?

 

[Phil Chen]

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It will taste owsome with beer.....

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Nice to be with you....

 

[echoes1978]

I am sorry to learn about your NER, echoes. Did you submit a detailed job description for your Business Developer and Analyst role (even one that is not certified by your employer)? Your job title may have watered-down your application as there is a different NOC for business development altogether.

I wish you luck in your next steps. Please continue to share your experiences in the forum as you move towards your Plan B or C, etc.

I submitted detailed job description. Many people on this site said that job title is not that important as job duties. In NOC 1122 example job titles, there are many similar to mine.

In Republic of Croatia we dont have many multinational companies with consultant business.

CIC should really clarify in their instructions that people who cant get their reference letters from HR dept. or manager should not apply. We cant force companies to issue reference letters.

My other option is International Experience Canada program.

 

[SmGrGe]

I submitted detailed job description. Many people on this site said that job title is not that important as job duties. In NOC 1122 example job titles, there are many similar to mine.

In Republic of Croatia we dont have many multinational companies with consultant business.

CIC should really clarify in their instructions that people who cant get their reference letters from HR dept. or manager should not apply. We cant force companies to issue reference letters.

My other option is International Experience Canada program.

Isnt that only for French citizens...?