questions about asylum at POE
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Is the risk you face in Sudan because of your race, religion, nationality, political belief or membership in a particular social group (e.g. being LGBT+, being female, etc)?
If not, do you face any additional risks beyond what an ordinary civilian in Sudan face?
Refugee protection (asylum) requires falling into at least one of these two categories.
If not, do you face any additional risks beyond what an ordinary civilian in Sudan face?
Refugee protection (asylum) requires falling into at least one of these two categories.
Make sure you gather all the evidence you can before you leave Sudan in order to make a refugee claim, you will not have to present the evidence at the airport when you claim asylum but you will need it to build and win your case. Read through this thoroughly https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refugees/protection.html
Also read through this https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/refugee-claims/Pages/ClaDemGuideInstruct.aspx#:~:text=You can make a claim,Inland office (within Canada).
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Use the search function in this forum to read about other peoples experiences of claiming asylum at the airport.
Good luck!
Unless actively participating in the civil war not sure anyone could say life in Sudan is safe for anyone living there.
Are you currently living in Sudan? Many are not so you would also have to show that you have no other safe options for example if you have permanent residency elsewhere. You qualify for citizenship in another country, etc.
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Hello Daniel. Definitely you can come and submit refugee claim at the first point of entry in Canada.
You don't need an immigration lawyer or consultant. Just try to read as much as you can about the process of claiming refuge in Canada.
If you have been living outside Sudan, you are practically speaking a displaced person. A displaced person does not need to be registered with UN. You cannot go back to Sudan because of the war.
Go ahead. Get an air ticket and come to Canada.
However, you have to understand that there is a huge, very huge backlog of refugee claims. As of end of January 2025, refugee claims referred to IRB is more than 278,000!!!
You should be aware of this miserable fact. If you claim refuge/asylum in Canada, it may take at least 27 months (which is the estimated processing time for an in-Canada refugee claim), and it may really take longer.
I am not discouraging you. If you have no other option for a normal immigration path (like express entry, etc.) then you can think of coming and claiming refuge here, but again, you should reasonably expect around 2.5 years waiting for determining your claim.
This time may be shorter, much shorter. For some people, it takes only 8-9 months for the whole process from submitting a refugee claim until receiving a positive decision and applying for PR. But these are exceptions.
I hope that things are clear for you.
Note: If you have 'residency' visa in another country, like the GCC countries, this will not prevent you from claiming refuge in Canada. Such a residency visa is not considered permanent residence. GCC countries does not have such a scheme (permanent residence leading to citizenship like Canada). Even if you have a residency visa, it will not be a problem.
Good luck.
You don't need an immigration lawyer or consultant. Just try to read as much as you can about the process of claiming refuge in Canada.
If you have been living outside Sudan, you are practically speaking a displaced person. A displaced person does not need to be registered with UN. You cannot go back to Sudan because of the war.
Go ahead. Get an air ticket and come to Canada.
However, you have to understand that there is a huge, very huge backlog of refugee claims. As of end of January 2025, refugee claims referred to IRB is more than 278,000!!!
You should be aware of this miserable fact. If you claim refuge/asylum in Canada, it may take at least 27 months (which is the estimated processing time for an in-Canada refugee claim), and it may really take longer.
I am not discouraging you. If you have no other option for a normal immigration path (like express entry, etc.) then you can think of coming and claiming refuge here, but again, you should reasonably expect around 2.5 years waiting for determining your claim.
This time may be shorter, much shorter. For some people, it takes only 8-9 months for the whole process from submitting a refugee claim until receiving a positive decision and applying for PR. But these are exceptions.
I hope that things are clear for you.
Note: If you have 'residency' visa in another country, like the GCC countries, this will not prevent you from claiming refuge in Canada. Such a residency visa is not considered permanent residence. GCC countries does not have such a scheme (permanent residence leading to citizenship like Canada). Even if you have a residency visa, it will not be a problem.
Good luck.
Thank you so much for your information!!!
I do have GCC residency but ending in couple of months and not renewable + PR in African country that also has civil war ( hahaha i know right i am very unlucky ) and anti homosexuality.
Not officially. Marc Miller had highlighted international students claiming asylum as problematic and appeared as though it was one of the groups of concern for him. The data does show it is a problem but unclear if IRCC will do something about it and what can actually be done. We were expecting an asylum program reform announcement around December 2024 but never happened.
"WIll that be decline in cases without hearing like Miller suggested; that would be too unfair to a lot of people."
I think that would depend on the circumstances surrounding the claim. 4 years in Canada as a student and to suddenly claim asylum would probably raise a few eyebrows. My gut tells me that those would be the likely target for scrutiny....and H&C.
I think that would depend on the circumstances surrounding the claim. 4 years in Canada as a student and to suddenly claim asylum would probably raise a few eyebrows. My gut tells me that those would be the likely target for scrutiny....and H&C.
That's I understand for students claiming asylum just before their permit is expired but those who doesn't fall under this category, should be considered for hearing and regular process of asylum in Canada.
I can understand they want to cut down on immigrants due to housing shortage, but getting rid of skilled labor will not be a briliant idea as you always need people who have settled in Canada and proved themselves to be eligible. End of the day, you are getting taxes and money to pension plan for citizens.
I can understand they want to cut down on immigrants due to housing shortage, but getting rid of skilled labor will not be a briliant idea as you always need people who have settled in Canada and proved themselves to be eligible. End of the day, you are getting taxes and money to pension plan for citizens.
The asylum system is incredibly expensive and many do not actually add to tax base until 2nd generation. Both the asylum and refugee system is not about economic benefit. Based on pure numbers alone something needs to be done to process asylum claims faster and/or reduce the volume of applicants because if not processing times will be many years for initial hearing. Canada also needs to reduce the amount of money we are spending on asylum claimants and refugees because the amount is really out of control.
Immigration is not the reason for social & economic failings of countries and governments, it is the shiny object used to distract people from blaming those in power and those with accumulated wealth who are the true culprits.
Immigrants do not cause housing shortages, neither do they cause budget deficits- 'based on pure numbers alone' decisions by governing parties paid for by corporations is why we are in this mess.
Immigrants do not cause housing shortages, neither do they cause budget deficits- 'based on pure numbers alone' decisions by governing parties paid for by corporations is why we are in this mess.