Spousal sponsorship Pakistani sponsor (Canadian PR)

[cjj]

Hi Canada Visa community,hope everyone is doing well?
In the past I have seen alot of knowledgeble and experienced people giving their views and opinion on certain topics and I have come in a situation where I would please like your opinion on it if possible,Thanks.

I am a permanent resident of Canada and have applied for Canadian Citizenship (hopefully will get it in the coming months).My current nationality is Pakistani (Catholic Christian) and I have been in a relationship with a woman also from Pakistan (Catholic Christian) (Ofcourse who is my girlfriend as well) since Dec 2020.We are of the same age and I added her on Shaadi.com (Matrimonial Website for south east asians) in dec 2020 and after speaking to her for a month I asked her to be my girlfriend (7th Jan 2021).We have massive amounts of conversations in all platforms (whatsapp,messenger,video calls etc).We have sent each other gifts as well on ocassions like valentines day,her birthday and vice versa.
We continued to speak and get to know each other better and better.Mid of july last year we decided on meeting each other in Person and our plan was to meet in dubai in december 2021 to celebrate Christmas,My birthday.New years and the 1 year anniversary where I poped the question to her to be my girlfriend (7th Jan).
We ended up taking the trip from dec 2021-jan 2022 where we have massive amount of pictures and receipts of our expenses,living together etc.

Now i intend to get court married to her in June/July in Pakistan.The reason for my backstory is to give you an understanding of my situation and I wanted to know if I need to take any documents from here in Canada to present the Lawyers in the court marriage process.We do not intend to do a traditional wedding because firstly that would take up alot of time and planning which we both mutually agreed on.Secondly My parents are not in favour of her (unfortunately) and do not want to do anything with it so Its best they do not know and as consulting adults aged over 21 we dont need parents consent.We would have the court marriage with witnessess and pictures taken out as well.We decided to have a small dinner with selected people due to the Covid situation as well.Apart from that we have conversations to prove each and everything.

Does anyone please also know what documents I need to bring back to Canada to then apply for spousal sponsorship?
Will not having my parents at the court marriage impact my spousal sponsorship process?
Is a court marriage better vs Tradtional marriage?
Help would highly be appreciated in this regard.
Thankyou

 

[scylla]

Hi Canada Visa community,hope everyone is doing well?
In the past I have seen alot of knowledgeble and experienced people giving their views and opinion on certain topics and I have come in a situation where I would please like your opinion on it if possible,Thanks.

I am a permanent resident of Canada and have applied for Canadian Citizenship (hopefully will get it in the coming months).My current nationality is Pakistani (Catholic Christian) and I have been in a relationship with a woman also from Pakistan (Catholic Christian) (Ofcourse who is my girlfriend as well) since Dec 2020.We are of the same age and I added her on Shaadi.com (Matrimonial Website for south east asians) in dec 2020 and after speaking to her for a month I asked her to be my girlfriend (7th Jan 2021).We have massive amounts of conversations in all platforms (whatsapp,messenger,video calls etc).We have sent each other gifts as well on ocassions like valentines day,her birthday and vice versa.
We continued to speak and get to know each other better and better.Mid of july last year we decided on meeting each other in Person and our plan was to meet in dubai in december 2021 to celebrate Christmas,My birthday.New years and the 1 year anniversary where I poped the question to her to be my girlfriend (7th Jan).
We ended up taking the trip from dec 2021-jan 2022 where we have massive amount of pictures and receipts of our expenses,living together etc.

Now i intend to get court married to her in June/July in Pakistan.The reason for my backstory is to give you an understanding of my situation and I wanted to know if I need to take any documents from here in Canada to present the Lawyers in the court marriage process.We do not intend to do a traditional wedding because firstly that would take up alot of time and planning which we both mutually agreed on.Secondly My parents are not in favour of her (unfortunately) and do not want to do anything with it so Its best they do not know and as consulting adults aged over 21 we dont need parents consent.We would have the court marriage with witnessess and pictures taken out as well.We decided to have a small dinner with selected people due to the Covid situation as well.Apart from that we have conversations to prove each and everything.

Does anyone please also know what documents I need to bring back to Canada to then apply for spousal sponsorship?
Will not having my parents at the court marriage impact my spousal sponsorship process?
Is a court marriage better vs Tradtional marriage?
Help would highly be appreciated in this regard.
Thankyou

Traditional marraige is better than court marriage.

Have you only visited each other in person once before? If so, my recommendation would be to do another trip before getting married.

 

[DimT44]

Hi Canada Visa community,hope everyone is doing well?
In the past I have seen alot of knowledgeble and experienced people giving their views and opinion on certain topics and I have come in a situation where I would please like your opinion on it if possible,Thanks.

I am a permanent resident of Canada and have applied for Canadian Citizenship (hopefully will get it in the coming months).My current nationality is Pakistani (Catholic Christian) and I have been in a relationship with a woman also from Pakistan (Catholic Christian) (Ofcourse who is my girlfriend as well) since Dec 2020.We are of the same age and I added her on Shaadi.com (Matrimonial Website for south east asians) in dec 2020 and after speaking to her for a month I asked her to be my girlfriend (7th Jan 2021).We have massive amounts of conversations in all platforms (whatsapp,messenger,video calls etc).We have sent each other gifts as well on ocassions like valentines day,her birthday and vice versa.
We continued to speak and get to know each other better and better.Mid of july last year we decided on meeting each other in Person and our plan was to meet in dubai in december 2021 to celebrate Christmas,My birthday.New years and the 1 year anniversary where I poped the question to her to be my girlfriend (7th Jan).
We ended up taking the trip from dec 2021-jan 2022 where we have massive amount of pictures and receipts of our expenses,living together etc.

Now i intend to get court married to her in June/July in Pakistan.The reason for my backstory is to give you an understanding of my situation and I wanted to know if I need to take any documents from here in Canada to present the Lawyers in the court marriage process.We do not intend to do a traditional wedding because firstly that would take up alot of time and planning which we both mutually agreed on.Secondly My parents are not in favour of her (unfortunately) and do not want to do anything with it so Its best they do not know and as consulting adults aged over 21 we dont need parents consent.We would have the court marriage with witnessess and pictures taken out as well.We decided to have a small dinner with selected people due to the Covid situation as well.Apart from that we have conversations to prove each and everything.

Does anyone please also know what documents I need to bring back to Canada to then apply for spousal sponsorship?
Will not having my parents at the court marriage impact my spousal sponsorship process?
Is a court marriage better vs Tradtional marriage?
Help would highly be appreciated in this regard.
Thankyou

Didn't you get an answer for this somewhere else on the forum? If there's something in particular that wasn't clear or you need clarification on please specify.

Does anyone please also know what documents I need to bring back to Canada to then apply for spousal sponsorship?

The list of documents is long (birth certificates, marriage documents, police certificates, etc). I recommend you download the application forms and look at the document checklist to find these before you travel.

Will not having my parents at the court marriage impact my spousal sponsorship process?

Not a big issue. You're certainly not the first. But what's important is to have others at the wedding. If not family then friends for example.

Is a court marriage better vs Tradtional marriage?

It's better to have a full wedding. If anything is "missing" it's better to include a letter of explanation. Even if that letter says that you don't like to have traditional weddings, for example.

 

[cjj]

Traditional marraige is better than court marriage.

Have you only visited each other in person once before? If so, my recommendation would be to do another trip before getting married.

yes we have visited each other only once.We dont want to delay it any further with a second visit since we both are dead set about getting married.Traditional is better but fretting having a hugh event because of Covid,will take the Court marriage route.

 

[scylla]

yes we have visited each other only once.We dont want to delay it any further with a second visit since we both are dead set about getting married.Traditional is better but fretting having a hugh event because of Covid,will take the Court marriage route.

I can understand that.

You want to aim to have a strong application and avoid red flags that concern IRCC. A second trip before you get married would be ideal for your application given most of your relationship has been long distance. But appreciate why this may not be what you want to do.

I think having a small event is reasonable given COVID. I would definitely not limit it to just the court ceremony and have a small dinner afterwards (even if it's just a few friends). A traditional marriage would be preferables but the application is still certainly doable with a court marriage.

In terms of documentation for the application, your best course of action is to dedicate time to reading through the application details and guide on the IRCC site so that you understand the application requirements and any country specific requirements.

Good luck.

 

[armoured]

I think having a small event is reasonable given COVID. I would definitely not limit it to just the court ceremony and have a small dinner afterwards (even if it's just a few friends). A traditional marriage would be preferables but the application is still certainly doable with a court marriage.

Agree and repeat/underline points I made before: if application is less strong in some areas, strengthen in others.

Ie: if no traditional, have other 'marriage events' - even if small - with friends and family.

You will also see in the application docs possibility to include photos - make them varied, different trips, different locations, different people present (friends and family), etc. It is an important component that the marriage/relationship are public - and one reason why the traditional marriage ceremonies are key, because they are public and include family/extended family etc.

Short letters of support from friends/family too - I emphasize short and factual because "we saw them as a couple on these occasions and also attended ceremony/dinner' is much better than "oh, they really love each other."

It's not end of world that one side of family's parents won't attend - if other relatives from that side can attend or whatever, that's good as it also demonstrates relationship public and known to that side.

 

[cjj]

I can understand that.

You want to aim to have a strong application and avoid red flags that concern IRCC. A second trip before you get married would be ideal for your application given most of your relationship has been long distance. But appreciate why this may not be what you want to do.

I think having a small event is reasonable given COVID. I would definitely not limit it to just the court ceremony and have a small dinner afterwards (even if it's just a few friends). A traditional marriage would be preferables but the application is still certainly doable with a court marriage.

In terms of documentation for the application, your best course of action is to dedicate time to reading through the application details and guide on the IRCC site so that you understand the application requirements and any country specific requirements.

Good luck.

@scylla ,Yes you put forward alot of good points.I appreciate the help and advice and will definetly take this into consideration when planning our next steps.
Thankyou