What will CRS score cut off after 3 years?

[Durgeshsharma]

Hello guys,

Hope you all are doing great!!

My name is Durgesh from Punjab.

I just got some information from internet regarding Canada PR.

I have bachelor degree and 28 years old age. If we calculate the score with 8,7,7,7 bands with 4 years of experiences then score goes to 460. Means I am out from the cut off.

Now, I am planning to go for masters and learn French. It will take two years.

So guys, what are the your opinions on it..

Please share

 

[oinkario]

If a substantial portion of your degree+French plan is for immigration, I suggest serious consideration of how this works compared against studying in Canada or PNP programs that might be suitable. Nobody knows how EE FSW is going to work out in two years and what the CRS system will look like.

It’d be really painful to be 30 years old and just a few points off. Explore your options fully before committing.

 

[vikramnaik14]

Definitely your chances would improve with Masters and French. The French might also give you an edge when searching for a job in Canada. The expectation is that when the draws resume cutoffs will be around 480+, probably closer to 490. One note on French - you will definitely need 2 years if you are a beginner as the level of French in those exams to get 7 all around is high. Most people (including myself) don't clear it in first try. Ideally if you study at C1 level then you might have a more easier time cracking those exams.

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

Definitely your chances would improve with Masters and French. The French might also give you an edge when searching for a job in Canada. The expectation is that when the draws resume cutoffs will be around 480+, probably closer to 490. One note on French - you will definitely need 2 years if you are a beginner as the level of French in those exams to get 7 all around is high. Most people (including myself) don't clear it in first try. Ideally if you study at C1 level then you might have a more easier time cracking those exams.

Untrue. You don't "definitely" need 2 years to get your french to an NCLC7. I did it in 9-ish months, several people here have done it in 6 months, all the while having fullime jobs and other responsibilities. Depending on your english scores, your CRS will get a 50 point bonus as well as 3-4 points for each competency of the exam. For example, my score went from 456 to 521 solely because of an NCLC 7 in french.

 

[Durgeshsharma]

If a substantial portion of your degree+French plan is for immigration, I suggest serious consideration of how this works compared against studying in Canada or PNP programs that might be suitable. Nobody knows how EE FSW is going to work out in two years and what the CRS system will look like.

It’d be really painful to be 30 years old and just a few points off. Explore your options fully before committing.

Yes, it is difficult to get prediction on it specially when we are applying after 2-3 years. But i think the basic criteria will never change.

I have heard some news that 60 million people get retired in 2030 and also Canada Govt announced that they will invite 4 lace immigrants per year. So, do you still thinking CRS system will change?

 

[Durgeshsharma]

Untrue. You don't "definitely" need 2 years to get your french to an NCLC7. I did it in 9-ish months, several people here have done it in 6 months, all the while having fullime jobs and other responsibilities. Depending on your english scores, your CRS will get a 50 point bonus as well as 3-4 points for each competency of the exam. For example, my score went from 456 to 521 solely because of an NCLC 7 in french.

Sounds Good!! Your words boost me to enter this competition.

I know it is not difficult to learn french. I am doing full time job and trying to find ways where i can learn french at home. I have also installed one application iits Duolingo. Hopefully it works for me. Can you please share your statergy that how can you learn french?

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

Sounds Good!! Your words boost me to enter this competition.

I know it is not difficult to learn french. I am doing full time job and trying to find ways where i can learn french at home. I have also installed one application iits Duolingo. Hopefully it works for me. Can you please share your statergy that how can you learn french?

Learning on your own at home is inefficient, and you will likely not make the progress you want. If this is your plan, it might take you 2+ years. I'd say, take intensive classes at Alliance Francaise or look for private tutors (either in person classes in your city, or on italki.com). Once you get to B1, you can take the 'Lingoda sprint' (google it). You can take it earlier as well, but I don't think it'll be useful prior to B1 (but you can take it as many times as you want). Duolingo is fine, but it won't do much by itself. Duolingo Stories on the app are good, and maybe the exercises can be good practice, but you won't learn any french using duolingo by itself.

 

[Durgeshsharma]

Learning on your own at home is inefficient, and you will likely not make the progress you want. If this is your plan, it might take you 2+ years. I'd say, take intensive classes at Alliance Francaise or look for private tutors (either in person classes in your city, or on italki.com). Once you get to B1, you can take the 'Lingoda sprint' (google it). You can take it earlier as well, but I don't think it'll be useful prior to B1 (but you can take it as many times as you want). Duolingo is fine, but it won't do much by itself. Duolingo Stories on the app are good, and maybe the exercises can be good practice, but you won't learn any french using duolingo by itself.

Thanks buddy to sharing this.

I have checked Alliance Francaise(Chandigarh) weekends programs they are all fine & suitable for my timing.

Thanks again.

 

[oinkario]

Thanks buddy to sharing this.

I have checked Alliance Francaise(Chandigarh) weekends programs they are all fine & suitable for my timing.

Thanks again.

AF courses are good. I took them in Shanghai but ended up not needing points from French.

You could also consider getting beyond 8777 band on IELTS for up to 12 points. That way you start at 472. With good progress on French (say, something like 3+3+1+0 to CRS on four sections), you might not need to wait till finishing the Masters. The faster it is done, the less uncertainty about the program.

 

[Durgeshsharma]

AF courses are good. I took them in Shanghai but ended up not needing points from French.

You could also consider getting beyond 8777 band on IELTS for up to 12 points. That way you start at 472. With good progress on French (say, something like 3+3+1+0 to CRS on four sections), you might not need to wait till finishing the Masters. The faster it is done, the less uncertainty about the program.

Yes, you are right. We can also focusing on IELTS score. But if we compare 472 score with today then we have nothing, because after the 2-3 years the competition become to high. So, that's why i am thinking about Learn french + Masters.

I have also visited some consultancy, maximum of them are said, GO with study visa. That's make me uncomfortable & not acceptable (have not enough budget).

 

[oinkario]

Yes, you are right. We can also focusing on IELTS score. But if we compare 472 score with today then we have nothing, because after the 2-3 years the competition become to high. So, that's why i am thinking about Learn french + Masters.

I have also visited some consultancy, maximum of them are said, GO with study visa. That's make me uncomfortable & not acceptable (have not enough budget).

I agree that 472 is possibly not enough. The point I was trying to make is that starting from 472 takes away the need to get 4*CLB7 on French, if you want to stand a chance while working towards Master degree. This way even if one or two of the TEF sections is a challenge for you, you’re still good with just a couple of +3s or even +1s.

Also, what’s your NOC? This could matter for some PNP programs.

 

[Durgeshsharma]

I agree that 472 is possibly not enough. The point I was trying to make is that starting from 472 takes away the need to get 4*CLB7 on French, if you want to stand a chance while working towards Master degree. This way even if one or two of the TEF sections is a challenge for you, you’re still good with just a couple of +3s or even +1s.

Also, what’s your NOC? This could matter for some PNP programs.

NOC :- 0124 or 1123. I am confused between them. But many of people choose 0124 for Digital Marketing.

 

[vikramnaik14]

Weekend classes at Alliance drag much longer; if possible try to see if weekday classes work out. If you are an absolute beginner then you will start with A1; each level takes 6 months as levels are broken down into 2 parts - each of 3 months. To get to a b2 level that would mean 2 years. As someone said a private tutor can speed things up.

 

[Durgeshsharma]

Weekend classes at Alliance drag much longer; if possible try to see if weekday classes work out. If you are an absolute beginner then you will start with A1; each level takes 6 months as levels are broken down into 2 parts - each of 3 months. To get to a b2 level that would mean 2 years. As someone said a private tutor can speed things up.

Yes
I have already went through those courses. It takes time to become fluent on it. I am working in IT sector where sat & sun off.
So, Weekend classes are best option for me. I will start from A1 level if I choose with Alliance. Otherwise I am also looking to find private tutor.

 

[Sunny2869]

First need to improve score in IELTS after that you can decide to take classes for french.