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[Ranger91]

Dammm you all were busy eh

 

[dankboi]

 

[Windsor37]

Alberta is basically the Texas of Canada for all practical purposes. It has a really strong oil and gas industry and so I have been seeing jobs in that sector. Having said that, a lot of these seem to require more digging than just typical job search sites. They like to hire through contacts and references based on the what I have been finding. Upping my linkedin game has helped a bit. Ontario has a LOT of jobs especially in Pharma and biochem. They require years of experience for the good research positions though. The territories have jobs in the mining sector but there is a limit to how much I am willing to freeze and pay 20 bucks for milk while hanging out with cute polar bears lol

On the flipside though, in the territories housing, wouldn't be too problematic.

 

[novascotia27]

For PNP candidates, saw this in Kubeir's group:

This is totally BS and spreading misinformation… A PNP applicant is nominated based on a bonafide intention to move there, and is not a condition to maintain the permanent residency status.

A permanent resident has the right to live, work and pursue a living anywhere in Canada and their rights are fully protected under the Charter of Rights and Freedom. The requirements for Citizenship are clear and does not involve PNP nomination compliance. This guy must’ve done something else that has a material adverse effect on his application.

 

[seadrag0n]

This is totally BS and spreading misinformation… A PNP applicant is nominated based on a bonafide intention to move there, and is not a condition to maintain the permanent residency status.

A permanent resident has the right to live, work and pursue a living anywhere in Canada and their rights are fully protected under the Charter of Rights and Freedom. The requirements for Citizenship are clear and does not involve PNP nomination compliance. This guy must’ve done something else that has a material adverse effect on his application.

You are required to submit a signed letter to both the province and IRCC during the application process about your intention to reside in the nominated province, that should have some meaning no?

 

[Maybe.Moving]

True. That's how pathetic Canada's job market is in STEM. Canada's STEM job market = IT/compsci jobs in Ontario. One particular profession in one particular province. BC has some IT/compsci jobs too. The rest of STEM (which would probably be about 95% if you deduce IT) will encounter what I mentioned; well except construction, mining, oil & gas, energy fellas.

Now I believe you peeps have enough brain cells to not go "oh I found a job in Canada so Canada has a great job market!".

To add to what you said, it doesn't seem to be only about STEM jobs. It is STEM + experience and not STEM + education. Someone with a PhD in a STEM field will be over 30 years old when they complete their education (in the US). They can only start acquiring work experience after that. And that adds more years. Regardless of how "in demand" STEM-folk are, they are likely to have a low CRS. Unless they find a job, or get very lucky with a PNP...it would be nearly impossible to get an ITA. In other words, education incurs a massive penalty. If you complete a computer science diploma and work for a few years and you are golden. (No disrespect meant to anyone who studies computer science ). Somehow, it just doesn't make all that much sense to me.

 

[EscoBlades]

Yes, the Charter of Rights and Freedom does protect the mobility of newly minted PRs, but there still has to be some common sense on both the part of said applicant, and IRCC.

Much in the same way that someone who applies for, and gets PR from outside of Quebec, moves to Quebec almost immediately after getting their COPR, is going to raise suspicion, regardless of legality.

As with most things to come from these useless Facebook groups, there is probably a bit of embellishment in that story.

 

[Ar12345]

This is totally BS and spreading misinformation… A PNP applicant is nominated based on a bonafide intention to move there, and is not a condition to maintain the permanent residency status.

A permanent resident has the right to live, work and pursue a living anywhere in Canada and their rights are fully protected under the Charter of Rights and Freedom. The requirements for Citizenship are clear and does not involve PNP nomination compliance. This guy must’ve done something else that has a material adverse effect on his application.

I agree about rights and all that but I'd rather not leave a PNP province in a week after promising to IRCC in
good faith" that I will stay. Or even better, not get desperate enough to go for PNP without having done the basic research to make sure I can survive there till I can become a citizen. Fact of the matter is this person didn't even try- he/she left in a week (if this is real). That's bad faith misrepresentation straight up. Misrepresentation is against IRPA.

Permanent residents aren't citizens. Until we become citizens, IRCC can screw with us and we need to be careful. It is what it is. At least after gaining citizenship, it would take something REALLY bad to get them involved for revocation proceedings. I personally don't want to get into some groundbreaking supreme court case arguing my "rights" after I fooled a province into nominating me tbh

 

[GandiBaat]

But Vancouver Metro's population is twice the population of Calgary Metro's.

Metro calgary is essential one city and two counties (and a half?). Metro Vancouver is multiple cities including Burnaby, Surrey and what not. Thankfully Calgary Metro has more land and that keeps prices low. Not to mention, by any standard Calgary cann't be a small city. There are 25 odd cities in entire North America with population more than 1 million, needless to say Calgary is one of them.

I had taken a very long break from this forum to work on my masters and boost my CRS. Safe to say, I’ve successfully achieved that goal. I’ve been a silent spectator on this forum for the past week, but now’s the time to get back in the game. This post sorta lifted my spirits; praying IRCC conducts all program specific draws soon. Wishful thinking I guess.

Welcome back brother!

 

[GandiBaat]

Yes, the Charter of Rights and Freedom does protect the mobility of newly minted PRs, but there still has to be some common sense on both the part of said applicant, and IRCC.

Much in the same way that someone who applies for, and gets PR from outside of Quebec, moves to Quebec almost immediately after getting their COPR, is going to raise suspicion, regardless of legality.

As with most things to come from these useless Facebook groups, there is probably a bit of embellishment in that story.

I am not a lawyer but it will come down to this.

Does "Good faith" works in court? If this was a contract or a statuary declaration or a condition on visa it would have made sense. "Good faith" cannot work like that.

 

[Alysson]

This is totally BS and spreading misinformation… A PNP applicant is nominated based on a bonafide intention to move there, and is not a condition to maintain the permanent residency status.

A permanent resident has the right to live, work and pursue a living anywhere in Canada and their rights are fully protected under the Charter of Rights and Freedom. The requirements for Citizenship are clear and does not involve PNP nomination compliance. This guy must’ve done something else that has a material adverse effect on his application.

The requirement for citizenship is having a PR, which can be taken away if it’s found that you achieved it through misrepresentation.

 

[dankboi]

I am not a lawyer but it will come down to this.

Does "Good faith" works in court? If this was a contract or a statuary declaration or a condition on visa it would have made sense. "Good faith" cannot work like that.

Since it's not a contract , isn't it fine to report to IRCC before moving away from the nominated province giving proofs that the person has lived there for a while and unable to find some good jobs or feels quite uncomfortable to live in that province

 

[dankboi]

This is totally BS and spreading misinformation… A PNP applicant is nominated based on a bonafide intention to move there, and is not a condition to maintain the permanent residency status.

A permanent resident has the right to live, work and pursue a living anywhere in Canada and their rights are fully protected under the Charter of Rights and Freedom. The requirements for Citizenship are clear and does not involve PNP nomination compliance. This guy must’ve done something else that has a material adverse effect on his application.

There's some sus backstory to this which the OP is hiding.
If i am a nominated person, ethically I'd stay in the province and I'll report to IRCC when moving, only when I reach the point of becoming homeless because of lack of work opportunities or when the weather becomes too shitty to stay. Else i won't cause i signed a letter of intent and it's a matter of trust, The province gave me 600 points.

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

The struggle is real for people from outside Canada and US. If someone from the US cannot find a job within 2 months, I'd say the person is dumb. For others, there will be a struggle because they need some time to adapt to the hiring process. For folks in India, they need to drop their personal biography in a resume. My countrymen feel proud putting their blood group, fathers name, mothers name, languages they speak, a declaration with signature, and some worst candidates paste their picture. The one-page resume works here. Many don't know what to put in their cover letter. Simple tip. Put information that's not in your resume. Folks waiting for a PR should start tweaking their resumes if they are not in North American formal instead of applying for jobs now. Now don't ask what's the format. Fking GOOGLE.

Yeah Indian fellas find it hard to find a job in Canada but the topic has nothing to do with one's nationality; I'm talking pure numbers. Canada has a pathetic STEM job market because;

- The number of currently open jobs is low,
- The frequency new jobs are added is low,
- The variety of jobs is lacking, only a few sectors are lucky,
- Most jobs are not very "skilled", Canada doesn't produce technology in many fields but only consumes,
- Pay is low compared to Sweden, Switzerland, Netherlands etc.,
- There's just a handful of global corporations in Canada, most STEM jobs are at very small startups which don't last,
- Because of the above, the corporate culture isn't strong in Canada, work feels like a school project,

I could go on and on but you get the idea hopefully.

 

[Ar12345]

Yeah Indian fellas find it hard to find a job in Canada but the topic has nothing to do with one's nationality; I'm talking pure numbers. Canada has a pathetic STEM job market because;

- The number of currently open jobs is low,
- The frequency new jobs are added is low,
- The variety of jobs is lacking, only a few sectors are lucky,
- Most jobs are not very "skilled", Canada doesn't produce technology in many fields but only consumes,
- Pay is low compared to Sweden, Switzerland, Netherlands etc.,
- There's just a handful of global corporations in Canada, most STEM jobs are at very small startups which don't last,
- Because of the above, the corporate culture isn't strong in Canada, work feels like a school project,

I could go on and on but you get the idea hopefully.

Canada has a population of 38.2 m- about 1/10th the US. It still has the same (if not higher especially in terms of healthcare) living standards as the US. End of the day, they are making enough money with a fraction of the same resources as the States. This means they are doing something right. Population to job ratio has to be fine. Every country has its moneymakers- natural resources and tech may be the strongest in Canada.

When it comes to jobs, I am an Indian and I know that how things work in India is very different from how they work in North America. I had to unlearn and re-learn a lot of things once I moved to the US. I can say with confidence and personal experience that a lot of people from outside north america and some parts are Europe are unemployable in North American/some european STEM jobs without additional training and education. If someone can find a job in a developing country like India where the population is 1.3 b, they sure can compete in Canada if they are willing to put in the necessary effort to get themselves trained and ready to go. Advantage of having a PR is that it provides you unlimited freedom to learn or work wherever. People need to humble themselves and use that freedom to better their employment chances