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[imm2canadaordie]

Serious talk, I know nobody knows if or when FSW will resume but raise your hand if you are still waiting without an option B in mind ?

This is no option B. No other country has immigration programs easy and cheap enough worthy of the risk. My option B is staying in unstable but highly livable conditions in my home country and trying to make it here. For those who are desperate, illegal ways and work visas is an option. For IT people there's basically no borders or limitations.

 

[seadrag0n]

Serious talk, I know nobody knows if or when FSW will resume but raise your hand if you are still waiting without an option B in mind ?

People have plan A?

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

This is no option B. No other country has immigration programs easy and cheap enough worthy of the risk. My option B is staying in unstable but highly livable conditions in my home country and trying to make it here. For those who are desperate, illegal ways and work visas is an option. For IT people there's basically no borders or limitations.

Cheap enough? One could easily immigrate to Germany if they're willing to go back to grad school for 1.5-2 years and spend about 30,000 EUR for life expenses in that time. Nothing replaces the ease and comfort of FSW for sure but FSW can never set the bar since it is (or was) ridiculously easy.

 

[jester10]

Hello all,

Have any of you tech workers explored the BC PNP Tech route? I have heard that it is exempt from LMIA, and only requires a job offer in BC.
Is this a viable option for tech workers? Is there any portal where foreign tech workers can look for these LMIA exempt jobs?

Are there any pitfalls associated with this?

 

[imm2canadaordie]

Cheap enough? One could easily immigrate to Germany if they're willing to go back to grad school for 1.5-2 years and spend about 30,000 EUR for life expenses in that time. Nothing replaces the ease and comfort of FSW for sure but FSW can never set the bar since it is (or was) ridiculously easy.

I barely scraped enough for FSW proof of funds. Plus, i'll have to start from the beginning by learning german, evaluating education etc etc which are additional costs in money, time and energy neither of which i'm willing to spend on unsure long timelines.

All that if you don't take into accound germany's own disadvantages

 

[seadrag0n]

Cheap enough? One could easily immigrate to Germany if they're willing to go back to grad school for 1.5-2 years and spend about 30,000 EUR for life expenses in that time. Nothing replaces the ease and comfort of FSW for sure but FSW can never set the bar since it is (or was) ridiculously easy.

Hey man, you got AOR yet? When are you planning to submit your application?

 

[Badgirloma]

Hello all,

Have any of you tech workers explored the BC PNP Tech route? I have heard that it is exempt from LMIA, and only requires a job offer in BC.
Is this a viable option for tech workers? Is there any portal where foreign tech workers can look for these LMIA exempt jobs?

Are there any pitfalls associated with this?

Bumping this, someone please respond

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

I barely scraped enough for FSW proof of funds. Plus, i'll have to start from the beginning by learning german, evaluating education etc etc which are additional costs in money, time and energy neither of which i'm willing to spend on unsure long timelines.

All that if you don't take into accound germany's own disadvantages

Indeed, saving 30,000 EUR (60,000 CAD) is not easy at all but as I said, FSW can never set the bar; it's just too easy. But ask yourself this; have you not worked hard for years to top your IELTS scores, save that POF, get work experience, all the while trying to not get older than 29? It's always a challenge as we all know. If staying in their home country can never be an option B for someone, that someone could really put some additional effort on top of what they've done to get some good FSW score and go somewhere in EU. Not as easy as FSW, sure, but still manageable for FSW people who are already used to working hard towards a goal.

Hey man, you got AOR yet? When are you planning to submit your application?

Hi mate. No I haven't applied yet; trying to get my medicals. I've filled out the online form (personal history etc.) now I gotta submit my documents. I think it'll take me 3-4 weeks to send the app in.

 

[HA1986]

So I have a rant and y'all the only ones who might care and understand what I have to say.

tl;dr version is, in my opinion, FSW-O normal processing won't resume until january 2022, and general FSW draws won't happen until December 2021 with 99,9% probability.

By normal processing I mean enough PPRs for this forum to notice the significant movement or stable weekly PPR updates on myimmitracker (around 10 per week or more for FSW-O like in 2020).

It's a pessimistic approach, but the most realistic and logical I could come up with. Being FSW-O stuck myself, I'd be happy to be wrong and you can screenshot this rant and post it on r/agedlikemilk if you want to if and when the opposite happens.

So my reasoning is this: so far we've only seen that IRCC only cares about their target numbers of PR landings since they purposely ignoring everyone both in social media and webform/email requests with gener. The target number for 2021 is 401 000 landed immigrants in every category and 108 500 from 401k should be us, every high skilled applicant including CEC.

Latest total numbers in google on landed permanent residents are 184 000 in July, with around 40k only in the month of July.

If we extrapolate this, we get (all numbers are landed permanent residents):
1) worst case scenario being 26k people on average per month = 314k
2) best case scenario 40k people per month every month = 384k
3) irrealistic but even better scenario with 5k monthly increments from july's 40k = 459k

Both realistic scenarios are short of their targets but best case is probably close enough to please the federal government and\or shareholders.

To achieve best case they will need to concentrate all their resources on quick guaranteed landings within the timeframe of howmuchever months left in 2021. And in IRCCs opinion, it seems, guaranteed landings are inlands, family reunification and afghan refugees.

In addition, India flight ban might also influenced their decision not to focus on outlands, since India is #1 in supplier of immigrants. As of tomorrow, India flight ban might be lifted as RSub said above that the flight IN-CA has departed and the ban wasn't renewed by the feds last week (they still might renew it on monday). Although, I don't think it'll change things because again outland PPRs demand more resources and time to land.

Alright now to my dates.

January next year for processing because new year, new targets, and there might not be enough CECs to achieve their targets in 2022 and thus processing might resume then.

Of course, there's a possibility that they'll want to clear CEC backlog (Feb 14 and 20 2021 as of now https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/check-status.html) in which case it's even worse and we can only hope for sept 2022, but I think (or rather hope) that at least one person in charge of this has enough common sense that low scoring CECs isn't really a good idea to implement on a regular basis.

December this year for general FSW draws because they don't want to run out of new CECs to process that potentially can land withing a month since there were cases where CECs got their PR in under a month and since their processing isn't first-come-first-served anymore. After December, possibility of landing a CEC this year is really low so there's really no difference for them in terms or target numbers, but they might still stretch it out to January for whatever reason.

There is no solution for us to implement unfortunately, because even if we all organised, chipped in for an expensive lawyer that will force IRCC to give us a definitive timeline, the lawsuit can take any time from 6 months when all this probably becomes irrelevant.

Good news is this conclusion made me at peace and less anxious about the wait and focus on other things in my life. And I hope it helps someone else too.

Happy to hear your thoughts on this and people telling me I'm wrong. Because I really want to be wrong and that after elections, for whatever reason, miracle happens and PPRs pour by the thousands for outlanders.

Better call Saul!

 

[tizzyboi]

Cheap enough? One could easily immigrate to Germany if they're willing to go back to grad school for 1.5-2 years and spend about 30,000 EUR for life expenses in that time. Nothing replaces the ease and comfort of FSW for sure but FSW can never set the bar since it is (or was) ridiculously easy.

and learn a new language, struggle to get a job in management/finance/accounting since good communication skills are needed in business. Most of the people i know in these industries are struggling a lot in Europe due to these reasons. Perhaps, Germany can be an option for IT/engineering people which doesn't require lot of communication skills/cultural awareness

 

[jester10]

Serious talk, I know nobody knows if or when FSW will resume but raise your hand if you are still waiting without an option B in mind ?

Option A - Waiting for FSW (forever)
Option B - Hoping for PNP Nomination
Option C - Taking the study route (CEC)
Option D - Immigrating to Afghanistan/Syria first on a non-violence job (work permit?) and then immigrating further as a refugee (Fastest way imo)

 

[izzyhu1106]

I don’t even think IRCC cares about the annual target as some consider it to be the reason why it doesn’t process outland cases.
I think they just really enjoy the work load during covid lockdowns and don’t wanna get back to pre covid working mode.
What else could explain why they don’t issue PPR for those approved cases with everything passed

 

[seadrag0n]

I don’t even think IRCC cares about the annual target as some consider it to be the reason why it doesn’t process outland cases.
I think they just really enjoy the work load during covid lockdowns and don’t wanna get back to pre covid working mode.
What else could explain why they don’t issue PPR for those approved cases with everything passed

Even if they don't reach the target this year, they will just announce a bigger target for next year, rinse and repeat.

 

[seadrag0n]

Option A - Waiting for FSW (forever)
Option B - Hoping for PNP Nomination
Option C - Taking the study route (CEC)
Option D - Immigrating to Afghanistan/Syria first on a non-violence job (work permit?) and then immigrating further as a refugee (Fastest way imo)

Options E-Z, forget about Canada and have some peace of mind. If I had a score of 471+ and waiting for ITA, I would have given up completely by now.