***** DECEMBER 2020 AOR - CEC APPLICANTS TIMELINE & UPDATES*****

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Just Called IRCC

EXPRESS ENTRY - PNP INLAND (EEBC PNP)

AOR- 09-DEC-2020
MEDICAL & BIOMETRIC REQUEST- 18-JAN-2021
BIOMETRIC DONE- 19/JAN/2021
Eligibility- NOT STARTED
MEDICAL- PASSED
CRIMINALITY- PASSED
SECURITY- NOT STARTED
VISA OFFICE- Etobicoke

We are in the same boat

 

[coolak2007]

Our Medicals were 'Passed' on Jan 19, 2021 (CEC Express Entry PR Application Submission Date/AOR: 04-Dec-2020), but today changed to 'You do not need a medical exam. We will send you a message if this changes'. I'm CEC Inland with Family of 2. Today, also got third Ghost Update (2 in April, 1 today). Does anyone experienced this? Is it because Medical expire in one year (we did our last Medical on May 08, 2020)?. Also, recently done re-medicals on 09 May 2021 voluntarily. We have not yet ordered the GCMS Notes (we have BOWP approved in Feb-2021). Please let me know @legalfalcon or advanced member.

Review of eligibility

• We are reviewing whether you meet the eligibility requirements.

Review of medical results

• You do not need a medical exam. We will send you a message if this changes.

Review of additional documents

• We do not need additional documents.

Interview

• You do not need an interview. We will send you a message if this changes.

Biometrics

• We do not need your fingerprints. We will send you a message if this changes.

Background check

• We are processing your background check. We will send you a message if we need more information.

Final decision

• Your application is in progress. We will send you a message once the final decision has been made.

 

[sandhu5555]

We are in the same boat

BC PNP?

 

[upon]

BC PNP?

Manitoba PNP.
Was your file transferred to Etobicoke or it was there initially? What is your primary and secondary office?
Was your R10 done at Etobicoke or different office?

My file was transferred to Etobicoke after R10 done at CIO.

 

[Vikram_kumar123]

Hello @legalfalcon and everyone,

I have received my GCMS notes today and it says -
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EE Eligibility:
ANALYST RECOMMENDATION: Review Required
OFFICER REVIEW REQUIRED: CANNOT ASSES FORIEGN WORK EXPERIENCE,
DECLARED DATE WORK PERIOD APPEARS NOT TO COINSIDE WITH LOE.
A.11.2: Review Required
R87.1: CEC MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Review Required.
RPRF: Complete
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Comprehensive Ranking System(CRS) CRS Score at initiation to apply (ITA)
490 CRS points minimum score for round: 471 CRS at application (APR):
490/ Verified CRS score: 440.I have reviewed the following for CRS points:
Qualifying job offer: LMIA exempted under C12; Letter dated 2020-11-24 EDOC#########.
PA gained points as MARRIED at ITA and APR PA gained points for 2 years
Canadian Work Experience with "Employer Name#######" EDOC#########.
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INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): NO
ADVERSE INFORMATION; application in status
PA: WP valid until 2022-10-25 (LMIA Exempt: C12, NOC 2171000)

Could you please tell if IRCC removed 50 points because of Foreign work experience only or for Job offer also ?
Though, it seems, only for Foreign work experience. If yes, please advise what should I do ?

 

[legalfalcon]

Hello @legalfalcon and everyone,

I have received my GCMS notes today and it says -
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EE Eligibility:
ANALYST RECOMMENDATION: Review Required
OFFICER REVIEW REQUIRED: CANNOT ASSES FORIEGN WORK EXPERIENCE,
DECLARED DATE WORK PERIOD APPEARS NOT TO COINSIDE WITH LOE.
A.11.2: Review Required
R87.1: CEC MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Review Required.
RPRF: Complete
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Comprehensive Ranking System(CRS) CRS Score at initiation to apply (ITA)
490 CRS points minimum score for round: 471 CRS at application (APR):
490/ Verified CRS score: 440.I have reviewed the following for CRS points:
Qualifying job offer: LMIA exempted under C12; Letter dated 2020-11-24 EDOC#########.
PA gained points as MARRIED at ITA and APR PA gained points for 2 years
Canadian Work Experience with "Employer Name#######" EDOC#########.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): NO
ADVERSE INFORMATION; application in status
PA: WP valid until 2022-10-25 (LMIA Exempt: C12, NOC 2171000)

Could you please tell if IRCC removed 50 points because of Foreign work experience only or for Job offer also ?
Though, it seems, only for Foreign work experience. If yes, please advise what should I do ?

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

 

[Canada_123]

Hello, I’m applying for express entry. I have a question regarding police clearance certificate. My husband is a permanent resident of Canada and is a non accompanying family member on my application. The document checklist on my express entry profile says he needs to submit his police clearance certificate. He only has his older police clearance certificate from 2016 from the time when he applied for his permanent resident and he hasn’t gone back to his home country since 2015. Please advise if he needs to get a new Police clearance certificate from his country for my express entry application or his old one would still work. Does he need to provide any explanation letter with it? I’m not entirely sure what we should do this case. Please advise. Thanks in advance.

 

[Vikram_kumar123]

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

Hi @legalfalcon,
Could you please tell if IRCC removed 50 points because of Foreign work experience only or for Job offer also ?
Though, it seems, only for Foreign work experience. If yes, please advise what should I do ?

 

[Augustiner]

Hello, I’m applying for express entry. I have a question regarding police clearance certificate. My husband is a permanent resident of Canada and is a non accompanying family member on my application. The document checklist on my express entry profile says he needs to submit his police clearance certificate. He only has his older police clearance certificate from 2016 from the time when he applied for his permanent resident and he hasn’t gone back to his home country since 2015. Please advise if he needs to get a new Police clearance certificate from his country for my express entry application or his old one would still work. Does he need to provide any explanation letter with it? I’m not entirely sure what we should do this case. Please advise. Thanks in advance.

For any other country, the police certificate must be issued after the last time you stayed there for 6 months or more in a row.
Police certificates for Express Entry applications - Canada.ca

 

[Canada_123]

For any other country, the police certificate must be issued after the last time you stayed there for 6 months or more in a row.
Police certificates for Express Entry applications - Canada.ca

So he won’t need to provide another one as has not gone back to his country ever since he got his PR and police clearance done right? The officer may ask if needed. Also would he need to get his RCMP one done or he does not need to provide that either as this is for the time he spent in Canada?

 

[legalfalcon]

Hi @legalfalcon,
Could you please tell if IRCC removed 50 points because of Foreign work experience only or for Job offer also ?
Though, it seems, only for Foreign work experience. If yes, please advise what should I do ?

Check the calculation in the middle of the GCMS notes. Also, this is just review required and not a final determination, which will be done by an officer.

Further, check if your document for arranged offer of employment clearly meets the requirement that your current employer made you an offer to give you a full-time job for at least one year if you’re accepted as a permanent resident

 

[Augustiner]

So he won’t need to provide another one as has not gone back to his country ever since he got his PR and police clearance done right? The officer may ask if needed. Also would he need to get his RCMP one done or he does not need to provide that either as this is for the time he spent in Canada?

Correct! RCMP is not required but they might ask for it. It is up to him to provide it up front, but it is not a requirement.
I would do it because it is a simple process, cost only $50, and it would help the process faster. It took me 2 weeks to get the result in the post mailbox to provide them.
He is good for now. It is up to you to decide to do the rcmp or not. Both options are fine.

 

[Vikram_kumar123]

Correct! RCMP is not required but they might ask for it. It is up to him to provide it up front, but it is not a requirement.
I would do it because it is a simple process, cost only $50, and it would help the process faster. It took me 2 weeks to get the result in the post mailbox to provide them.
He is good for now. It is up to you to decide to do the rcmp or not. Both options are fine.

Hi Augustiner,

Could you please tell the RCMP process or provide good link where I can get the information. I am thinking to have it in advance, as you have recommended, even though IRCC didn't ask yet.

Thanks,

 

[Augustiner]

There are several threads on this CEC section. Please read them. I searched rcmp for immigration in my city and found the location, made a call and had done it.
My case is I read from this forum (so helpful) and saw that many have been asked to provide rcmp. So, I decided to do it. 3 weeks after receiving the report in the mail, IRCC asked me for it , so I provide it on the same day. It came out to be fine!
I do not want to interrupt this thread because it is for December 2020 timeline. You can find good guidelines specifically for rcmp out there.

 

[Canada_123]

Correct! RCMP is not required but they might ask for it. It is up to him to provide it up front, but it is not a requirement.
I would do it because it is a simple process, cost only $50, and it would help the process faster. It took me 2 weeks to get the result in the post mailbox to provide them.
He is good for now. It is up to you to decide to do the rcmp or not. Both options are fine.

Thank you so much for the response. Much appreciated.