Home Childcare Provider Pilot 2019

[KylinZ]

I knew it! I spoken with an ircc agent, and the public policy is just BASICALLY telling us that they will just go back to normal processing days or a bit faster (according to last month’s news of finalizing the first stage 1500 applicants). So the same requirements: 2 years of work experience to have PR.
i told her that we are all confused because they used the word PUBLIC POLICY and EXEMPTION only to realize that these words are nothing special.

Did you ask whats the purpose of that announcement?

 

[ProudNanny]

Did you ask whats the purpose of that announcement?

Yes I did. I asked them what is the advantage for me as a 2020 applicant? So the purpose of that public policy is just informing the public that they will use special measure to keep up with the normal pacing of processing. That’s all.

 

[KylinZ]

Yes I did. I asked them what is the advantage for me as a 2020 applicant? So the purpose of that public policy is just informing the public that they will use special measure to keep up with the normal pacing of processing. That’s all.

My goodness, so Im right after all. It’s just a show. Like a second the motion to the announcement made last month.

 

[ProudNanny]

My goodness, so Im right after all. It’s just a show. Like a second the motion to the announcement made last month.

Exactly. That’s what I thought too. I already knew what she will tell me. I just called to confirm my hunch. Hahaha! Not really disappointed even if I am 2020 IN-CANADA applicant. But to be honest, granting of PR for someone with zero work experience is a fairy tale. They can only give open work permit.

 

[Geoche]

Well let's put it this way, for outside Canada 2019 applicants no decision made and it's mid 2021. 2019 applicants if no issues at all they should have been granted open work permit 2020 and next year 2022 they can apply for PR. If no decision made this year for their applications, I think it's fair to grant them PR even without 24 hrs working experience in Canada.
The situation is not funny at all. The announcements are just to confuse and give hopes to us who have been waiting for a very long time just to received biometrics instructions and medicals. For me it is not fairy tale but it's fair and reasonable that they will get approve for PR instead of just open work permit because of the long processing time.

 

[ProudNanny]

Well let's put it this way, for outside Canada 2019 applicants no decision made and it's mid 2021. 2019 applicants if no issues at all they should have been granted open work permit 2020 and next year 2022 they can apply for PR. If no decision made this year for their applications, I think it's fair to grant them PR even without 24 hrs working experience in Canada.
The situation is not funny at all. The announcements are just to confuse and give hopes to us who have been waiting for a very long time just to received biometrics instructions and medicals. For me it is not fairy tale but it's fair and reasonable that they will get approve for PR instead of just open work permit because of the long processing time.

I understand your sentiment. But I’ve been here in Canada for 3 years and yet they cannot consider that as an excuse to grant me PR, how much more someone who never been in Canada. I think it’s only fair to give that PR to someone who’s been here paying taxes for a long time. I never heard someone got their PR without any Canada experience (except if they are millionaires).
I tried to keep my cool while talking with the agent earlier. But I cannot blame the government. There are thousands of people IN CANADA who cannot even acquire PR. That’s why, believing that they will just give away PR automatically to someone who never been in Canada is totally a fairy tale. I even told the agent that ircc should not use the words PUBLIC POLICY and EXEMPTION because it is misleading. I almost believe in that fairy tale only to be disappointed.

 

[ProudNanny]

Well let's put it this way, for outside Canada 2019 applicants no decision made and it's mid 2021. 2019 applicants if no issues at all they should have been granted open work permit 2020 and next year 2022 they can apply for PR. If no decision made this year for their applications, I think it's fair to grant them PR even without 24 hrs working experience in Canada.
The situation is not funny at all. The announcements are just to confuse and give hopes to us who have been waiting for a very long time just to received biometrics instructions and medicals. For me it is not fairy tale but it's fair and reasonable that they will get approve for PR instead of just open work permit because of the long processing time.

I’m sorry, i know it’s not funny at all. But I don’t want the bad news to distract my day. Life goes on. The agent kept on telling me that I SHOULD HAVE 2 years of work experience to get the PR. Im sure you will get your open work permit soon, coz you’re one of the early applicants. They will speed up now the process of 1500 applicants, that’s the reason why they released the public policy. I’m not expecting that I will be included (I’m an October 2020 applicant), but I would be happy to hear some good news from one of you guys.

 

[Geoche]

I’m sorry, i know it’s not funny at all. But I don’t want the bad news to distract my day. Life goes on. The agent kept on telling me that I SHOULD HAVE 2 years of work experience to get the PR. Im sure you will get your open work permit soon, coz you’re one of the early applicants. They will speed up now the process of 1500 applicants, that’s the reason why they released the public policy. I’m not expecting that I will be included (I’m an October 2020 applicant), but I would be happy to hear some good news from one of you guys.

I am an employer, been in Canada since 2009. I know 3 applicants that are outside Canada new pilot and the other one I am trying to hire is 2020 applicant. They have been through a lot too many to mention here, same as many inside Canada applicants. Everyone has their own stories. At least you did not have to wait for years just to get work permit.

 

[Geoche]

I understand your sentiment. But I’ve been here in Canada for 3 years and yet they cannot consider that as an excuse to grant me PR, how much more someone who never been in Canada. I think it’s only fair to give that PR to someone who’s been here paying taxes for a long time. I never heard someone got their PR without any Canada experience (except if they are millionaires).
I tried to keep my cool while talking with the agent earlier. But I cannot blame the government. There are thousands of people IN CANADA who cannot even acquire PR. That’s why, believing that they will just give away PR automatically to someone who never been in Canada is totally a fairy tale. I even told the agent that ircc should not use the words PUBLIC POLICY and EXEMPTION because it is misleading. I almost believe in that fairy tale only to be disappointed.

Thanks for calling the IRCC. At least we have more clarification now all we can do is to wait.

 

[ProudNanny]

Thanks for calling the IRCC. At least we have more clarification now all we can do is to wait.

No problem. I was in the waiting queue for 45 minutes. Then she let me wait for few minutes again to study the recent public policy. But at least we have the clarification now.

 

[kikstaroxy]

Hello All,

Has anyone been able to link their Work Permit Application to their GcKey.

Since I received my AOR, I was able to link my PR application to GcKey but after speaking to an agent over the phone, they provided me with the Work Permit Application number (Starts with W) and I tried linking that to my GcKey but I was unable to link it even when entering the correct information. The drop down menu "Which situation applies to the applicant?" doesn't have any option for Caregiver outside Canada. I tried multiple options but it cannot be linked.

You cannot link it

 

[Manaaal]

I understand your sentiment. But I’ve been here in Canada for 3 years and yet they cannot consider that as an excuse to grant me PR, how much more someone who never been in Canada. I think it’s only fair to give that PR to someone who’s been here paying taxes for a long time. I never heard someone got their PR without any Canada experience (except if they are millionaires).
I tried to keep my cool while talking with the agent earlier. But I cannot blame the government. There are thousands of people IN CANADA who cannot even acquire PR. That’s why, believing that they will just give away PR automatically to someone who never been in Canada is totally a fairy tale. I even told the agent that ircc should not use the words PUBLIC POLICY and EXEMPTION because it is misleading. I almost believe in that fairy tale only to be disappointed.

everything is possible now with ircc, and they do everything under the law , please read carefuly this article
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-70.html
first for this pilot program, they require applicants to have a level of education, level 5 in languages, work experience related to the most requested sectors in Canada, education and health. and all that are similar to what is required of skilled workers in express entry and the skilled workers come with permanent residence .
what gives us more advantages is that we have a job offer, so we are not going to sit idly by without a job and ask for government help at this difficult time of the pandemic
I think that is why they do not let in those who had PR in March 2020 and they just let in those who have a job offer
so if they will give the PR they are aware of their step

 

[joe_cic]

No problem. I was in the waiting queue for 45 minutes. Then she let me wait for few minutes again to study the recent public policy. But at least we have the clarification now.

Interesting! This is contrary to the information we received from the call agent — and I am starting to assume that call agents are yet to be briefed or trained on responding to inquiries relating to the temporary public policy.

I called today to ask three questions, i) get the status of my application, ii) get clarity on the temporary public policy, and how it affects applicants (both inside and outside), and iii) what I should be expecting — a PR or Work Permit. The response to the first question was — "your PR application is in progress, you passed criminality check, and eligibility is yet to be finalized". For the second and third questions, "I am sorry I do not have details on the new policy but I can only confirm that your application is being processed as a PR and unfortunately I can't see anything other than that...the officer working on your application will reach out if there are any questions"

Let's keep in mind the purpose of a public policy — it is a deviation or exemption from certain requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations to applicants who meet conditions or eligibility requirements — meaning, normal requirements will be exempted to compensate the public or bring normalcy to a program. Let's also keep in mind that this exemption is not only for caregivers, there are other public policies that will grant compensation or exemption to asylum claimants, international students, visitors, and a few other categories.

Also, carefully read this excerpt from the public policy:

"As such, I hereby establish that, pursuant to my authority under section 25.2 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (the Act), there are sufficient public policy considerations that justify the granting of permanent resident status or an exemption from certain requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (the Regulations), to foreign nationals who meet the eligibility criteria and conditions listed below"

Hopefully, the next couple of days bring clarity. Good luck everyone!

 

[quami]

Interesting! This is contrary to the information we received from the call agent — and I am starting to assume that call agents are yet to be briefed or trained on responding to inquiries relating to the temporary public policy.

I called today to ask three questions, i) get the status of my application, ii) get clarity on the temporary public policy, and how it affects applicants (both inside and outside), and iii) what I should be expecting — a PR or Work Permit. The response to the first question was — "your PR application is in progress, you passed criminality check, and eligibility is yet to be finalized". For the second and third questions, "I am sorry I do not have details on the new policy but I can only confirm that your application is being processed as a PR and unfortunately I can't see anything other than that...the officer working on your application will reach out if there are any questions"

Let's keep in mind the purpose of a public policy — it is a deviation or exemption from certain requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations to applicants who meet conditions or eligibility requirements — meaning, normal requirements will be exempted to compensate the public or bring normalcy to a program. Let's also keep in mind that this exemption is not only for caregivers, there are other public policies that will grant compensation or exemption to asylum claimants, international students, visitors, and a few other categories.

Also, carefully read this excerpt from the public policy:

"As such, I hereby establish that, pursuant to my authority under section 25.2 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (the Act), there are sufficient public policy considerations that justify the granting of permanent resident status or an exemption from certain requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (the Regulations), to foreign nationals who meet the eligibility criteria and conditions listed below"

Hopefully, the next couple of days bring clarity. Good luck everyone!

Mind you, what one agent might say could be entirely different to what another agent might respond.

This is a newly released public policy and I won't be surprised if the agents themselves are not well versed with this. Or might even be the first time they've heard of it.

Hopefully, IRCC would clarify this.

 

[kikstaroxy]

Yep. Agents in call centres can only tell us what they can see in notes and repeat public policy. Paper applications sent to centres they cannot see. Only the processing officers notes.
Basically if you applied in 2020 and met the requirements of the pilot you applied for they will exempt their processing criteria and grant pr.
most people who applied 2019 have met or will soon meet 24 months so theydont need fast tracking.
Once they'rve cleared 2019-2020 they can get back on track.