Ray of hope - FSW - 1

[dankboi]

LOL, as a former OINP applicant I find hilarious how this is basically Express Entry 2.0 but with wage distinction and 22 months of processing times. Having +12 months of work experience in a NOC A or B, I can't see how anyone would choose to apply for this instead of CEC.

maybe there will be folks who'd prefer this stream instead of CEC. for this PNP are they taking fees from inlanders?

 

[13nitinsharma]

Results: Rounds of invitations
Ministerial Instructions respecting invitations to apply for permanent residence under the Express Entry system #184 – April 28, 2021

Provincial Nominee Program

Number of invitations issued: 381

Rank required to be invited to apply: 381th or above

Date and time of round: April 28, 2021 at 11:00:02 UTC

CRS score of lowest-ranked candidate invited: 717

Tie-breaking rule: March 16, 2021 at 21:20:50 UTC

• If more than one candidate has the lowest score, the cut-off is based on the date and time they submitted their Express Entry profiles.

Footnotes
Candidates from the Provincial Nominee Program were eligible for this round of invitations.

Source: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/submit-profile/rounds-invitations.html

 

[Mercedes2021]

LOL, as a former OINP applicant I find hilarious how this is basically Express Entry 2.0 but with wage distinction and 22 months of processing times. Having +12 months of work experience in a NOC A or B, I can't see how anyone would choose to apply for this instead of CEC.

Lol 22 months of processing time is horrible

 

[Frisk]

After seeing the new OINP NOI system, I could see some of the criteria implemented into EE:

• education – level and field of education and where completed
• language – English or French
• regional immigration – intention to settle outside of the Greater Toronto Area
• skill and work experience level
• earnings history
• other factors relevant to employment prospects – job offer in Ontario, Canadian work experience
• strategic priorities – attributes that would address immediate labour market needs in Ontario or a region of Ontario

Right now, for EE it doesn't really matter if you have a PhD in Social Science or in Engineering, applicants are ranked equally according to their highest level of education. For OINP they're doing a break down of your score depending in your field of studies. See the scores below.

• Engineering – 10 points
• Health care – 10 points
• Math and Computer Science – 9 points
• Business and Administration – 7 points
• Trades – 7 points
• Social, Legal, and Education – 6 points
• Arts and Humanities – 5 points

If a system like this was introduced in EE, two applicants with the same score would get their score recalculated depending on their field of studies. If we have two identical profiles but one is an engineering graduate and the other a philosophy grad, the engineer would get twice as many "field of studies" points. Until now PNP has been addressing province-specific needs, but I could see this happening to address labour market shortages.

 

[NavjotS123]

After seeing the new OINP NOI system, I could see some of the criteria implemented into EE:

• education – level and field of education and where completed
• language – English or French
• regional immigration – intention to settle outside of the Greater Toronto Area
• skill and work experience level
• earnings history
• other factors relevant to employment prospects – job offer in Ontario, Canadian work experience
• strategic priorities – attributes that would address immediate labour market needs in Ontario or a region of Ontario

Right now, for EE it doesn't really matter if you have a PhD in Social Science or in Engineering, applicants are ranked equally according to their highest level of education. For OINP they're doing a break down of your score depending in your field of studies. See the scores below.

• Engineering – 10 points
• Health care – 10 points
• Math and Computer Science – 9 points
• Business and Administration – 7 points
• Trades – 7 points
• Social, Legal, and Education – 6 points
• Arts and Humanities – 5 points

If a system like this was introduced in EE, two applicants with the same score would get their score recalculated depending on their field of studies. If we have two identical profiles but one is an engineering graduate and the other a philosophy grad, the engineer would get twice as many "field of studies" points. Until now PNP has been addressing province-specific needs, but I could see this happening to address labour market shortages.

Tbh this is how it should have been in the first place.

 

[dankboi]

After seeing the new OINP NOI system, I could see some of the criteria implemented into EE:

• education – level and field of education and where completed
• language – English or French
• regional immigration – intention to settle outside of the Greater Toronto Area
• skill and work experience level
• earnings history
• other factors relevant to employment prospects – job offer in Ontario, Canadian work experience
• strategic priorities – attributes that would address immediate labour market needs in Ontario or a region of Ontario

Right now, for EE it doesn't really matter if you have a PhD in Social Science or in Engineering, applicants are ranked equally according to their highest level of education. For OINP they're doing a break down of your score depending in your field of studies. See the scores below.

• Engineering – 10 points
• Health care – 10 points
• Math and Computer Science – 9 points
• Business and Administration – 7 points
• Trades – 7 points
• Social, Legal, and Education – 6 points
• Arts and Humanities – 5 points

If a system like this was introduced in EE, two applicants with the same score would get their score recalculated depending on their field of studies. If we have two identical profiles but one is an engineering graduate and the other a philosophy grad, the engineer would get twice as many "field of studies" points. Until now PNP has been addressing province-specific needs, but I could see this happening to address labour market shortages.

what if an applicant holds two different qualifications?

 

[NavjotS123]

what if an applicant holds two different qualifications?

Just like right now - what’s ur highest qualification for which want to claim points. This really makes sense ,but I’m not sure if ircc would do such a thing as WES Currently doesn’t indicate type of degree awarded.

 

[dankboi]

Just like right now - what’s ur highest qualification for which want to claim points. This really makes sense ,but I’m not sure if ircc would do such a thing as WES Currently doesn’t indicate type of degree awarded.

if an applicant holds a Masters in engineering and a Masters in Business ?

 

[NavjotS123]

if an applicant holds a Masters in engineering and a Masters in Business ?

see all I’m saying is, it is very much possible for this kind of system to come into picture. Regarding your question you may have to state what kind of degree you have and claim points for it.

 

[NavjotS123]

see all I’m saying is, it is very much possible for this kind of system to come into picture. Regarding your question you may have to state what kind of degree you have and claim points for it.

FSW is popular because anyone can be a part of it and that doesnt help Canadian Labour market in any way. May be they will come up tech draws like OINP. It’s all speculation, but the word reforms in the budget really points out in this direction only.

 

[dankboi]

review the history of draws. you're uninformed about the things you're talking about.

please explain a bit mate about the past draws. I am not getting the insights from the draws as you do

 

[NavjotS123]

FSW is popular because anyone can be a part of it and that doesnt help Canadian Labour market in any way. May be they will come up tech draws like OINP. It’s all speculation, but the word reforms in the budget really points out in this direction only.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/mandate/policies-operational-instructions-agreements/ministerial-instructions/express-entry-rounds.html

If you go to the above link and look at the draws over the years, you'll notice that the standard had been FSW before the pandemic. We also saw a return of the serial 5k FSW draws during the pandemic in 2020. So it is funny to say FSW doesn't help the Canadian labour market. nonetheless, the government may/will adjust EE to the current needs and nobody on this forum can have the smallest information (not idea, everybody has an idea) about those needs.
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exactly we all should do whatever is in our control.

 

[zagcollins]

Just like right now - what’s ur highest qualification for which want to claim points. This really makes sense ,but I’m not sure if ircc would do such a thing as WES Currently doesn’t indicate type of degree awarded.

won't take much for WES to implement this based on IRCC guidelines.

 

[NavjotS123]

won't take much for WES to implement this based on IRCC guidelines.

yeah I'm hearing this all around NOC-specific draws, but we will have to wait and see.

 

[dankboi]

Also what are the possible ways of streamlining FSW-O ? since there is no specific draws for outland folks. :/