Very different case. Need expert advice.

[mohamedishaik]

Hi , I came to canada in 2010 studies 2 years associates degree at George brown College, then got 3 year work permit. Worked for a company for 4 years as Information Systems Manager. Got eligible for PR and applied for PR received PR on August 2015. Then tragedy struck in March 2016, I went through a bad episode of kidney stones, but that developed anxiety and depression and I lost it all. I returned to India to my family so that they can take care of me. I got treated and got married, started working and still working. Have a child 9 months old.

My PR expired on September 2020. Now I really want to come back with my wife and Kids, who are both Indian citizens. I see that I am eligible for express entry, but I am concerned if my application will get rejected because I had PR in the past and it expired 7 months ago.

Please advise what I can do. I am hail and hearty now. Have been treated and ready to start the second phase of my life. Please advise. You can mail me at mohamedishaik@gmail.com

 

[Naturgrl]

Why doesn’t your wife sponsor you?

 

[dankboi]

If you have authentic documents to prove your medical condition that you been through then there isn't any deal.

 

[mohamedishaik]

If you have authentic documents to prove your medical condition that you been through then there isn't any deal.

Hi Dankboi, thank you for your response. Yes I have the medical history backed by all the documents for the past 4 years. And I am still on very mild medication and my doctor says I need to continue that. So with these details can I start the application in Canadian express entry programe ?? My CRS score is 534 and I am eligible for Canadian experience class. Please suggest so that I don't face a rejection.

 

[Naturgrl]

Hi Dankboi, thank you for your response. Yes I have the medical history backed by all the documents for the past 4 years. And I am still on very mild medication and my doctor says I need to continue that. So with these details can I start the application in Canadian express entry programe ?? My CRS score is 534 and I am eligible for Canadian experience class. Please suggest so that I don't face a rejection.

How are you eligible for CEC with a score of 534?

 

[mohamedishaik]

Why doesn’t your wife sponsor you?

Hi Naturgrl,

The CRS score for my wife as primary is 496, whereas me being primary is coming upto 534. So I can start applying in express entry ... Please advise if it is a good idea ??

 

[scylla]

Hi Dankboi, thank you for your response. Yes I have the medical history backed by all the documents for the past 4 years. And I am still on very mild medication and my doctor says I need to continue that. So with these details can I start the application in Canadian express entry programe ?? My CRS score is 534 and I am eligible for Canadian experience class. Please suggest so that I don't face a rejection.

You'll need to renounce your status before you can apply for PR again and create an Express Entry profile.

Make sure you aren't claiming any points for your wife in Canada in your CRS.

 

[scylla]

Hi Naturgrl,

The CRS score for my wife as primary is 496, whereas me being primary is coming upto 534. So I can start applying in express entry ... Please advise if it is a good idea ??

Your wife is Canadian. You can't include her in your application or score any points for her.

 

[mohamedishaik]

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Your wife is Canadian. You can't include her in your application or score any points for her.

No my wife is not Canadian. She is indian too and she has never been to canada. I have a 9 month old daughter too... Like I said I did a two year program in Toronto in IT and worked as a IT manager for 4 years in Mississauga. Doesn't that make me eligible for Canadian Experience class..

Also my PR expired in September 2020 . So do I still renounce the status and if yes, could you pls advise how do I do that ??

 

[Naturgrl]

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No my wife is not Canadian. She is indian too and she has never been to canada. I have a 9 month old daughter too... Like I said I did a two year program in Toronto in IT and worked as a IT manager for 4 years in Mississauga. Doesn't that make me eligible for Canadian Experience class..

Also my PR expired in September 2020 . So do I still renounce the status and if yes, could you pls advise how do I do that ??

In your first post you say “Now I really want to come back with my wife and Kids, who are both Canadian citizens.”

To be eligible for CEC, your work experience must be within the last 3 years and you would have to be the primary applicant. You aren’t eligible for CEC because your work experience was years ago. Also you need to renounce PR before can apply again.

 

[scylla]

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No my wife is not Canadian. She is indian too and she has never been to canada. I have a 9 month old daughter too... Like I said I did a two year program in Toronto in IT and worked as a IT manager for 4 years in Mississauga. Doesn't that make me eligible for Canadian Experience class..

Also my PR expired in September 2020 . So do I still renounce the status and if yes, could you pls advise how do I do that ??

You said in your first post that your wife and child are Canadian citizens. I assume that was an error?

You don't qualify for Canadian Experience Class based on the information you have provided. To qualify for this stream, you need to have at least one year of full time work experience in the last three years. It sounds like you left Canada in 2016.

 

[mohamedishaik]

Apologies. It was an error.

Yes you are correct I left canada on July 2016. So thanks for correcting me. So now I know I am not eligible for CEC as well.

So am I eligible for anything else and how do I renounce older PR which was expired on September 2020 ??

My details.
Age - 32
Qualification - Two years advanced diploma in information systems technology from George Brown College, Toronto.

Experience - Consultant Systems VMware, India - 4 years - currently still working.

Information Systems consultant - DFASS, Mississauga, Canada - 4 years - last worked May 2016.

My wife details.
Age - 28 years
Qualification - Masters degree in business administration.

Experience - 4 years as financial analyst in India

Daughter - 9 months old

All 3 of us are presently in india

All 3 of us are Indian Citizens and we don't hold status in any other country.

 

[Naturgrl]

Apologies. It was an error.

Yes you are correct I left canada on July 2016. So thanks for correcting me. So now I know I am not eligible for CEC as well.

So am I eligible for anything else and how do I renounce older PR which was expired on September 2020 ??

My details.
Age - 32
Qualification - Two years advanced diploma in information systems technology from George Brown College, Toronto.

Experience - Consultant Systems VMware, India - 4 years - currently still working.

Information Systems consultant - DFASS, Mississauga, Canada - 4 years - last worked May 2016.

My wife details.
Age - 28 years
Qualification - Masters degree in business administration.

Experience - 4 years as financial analyst in India

Daughter - 9 months old

All 3 of us are presently in india

All 3 of us are Indian Citizens and we don't hold status in any other country.

Until you renounce your PR, you can not apply for anything. This will take time. Make sure you have enough points before renouncing your PR. You can always come without your family through a land border if you have a US visa. You hope you are not flagged at the border to start proceedings to take away your PR. You then stay in Canada until you meet PR obligations and then sponsor your spouse and child. It will take years.

If sure on renouncing PR, have you done an ECA for your wife’s? That would be the first step. Also you both need languge tests to submit a profile.

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5781ETOC.asp

 

[GandiBaat]

Until you renounce your PR, you can not apply for anything. This will take time. Make sure you have enough points before renouncing your PR. You can always come without your family through a land border if you have a US visa. You hope you are not flagged at the border to start proceedings to take away your PR. You then stay in Canada until you meet PR obligations and then sponsor your spouse and child. It will take years.

If sure on renouncing PR, have you done an ECA for your wife’s? That would be the first step. Also you both need languge tests to submit a profile.

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5781ETOC.asp

I think with credentials like him, it will be easier to get a fresh PR than to come to canada himself, stay there and then sponsor his family.

 

[GandiBaat]

So am I eligible for anything else and how do I renounce older PR which was expired on September 2020 ??

You are eligible for good ol' FSW. Use come to canada tool to find your eligibility.

My calculation shows you get 526 points, assuming you do half-way decent on IELTS. If you didn't have a masters degree, then it will be 491 points.

I discounted all your spouse points, so these are very conservative estimates.

Core/Human capital factors

• Age = 85
• Level of education = 126
• Official Languages = 122
  • First Official Language = 122
  • Second Official Language = 0
• Canadian work experience = 63

Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 396
Spouse factors

• Level of education = 0
• First Official Languages = 0
• Canadian work experience = 0

Subtotal - Spouse factors = 0
Skill transferability factors
Education (to a maximum of 50 points)

• A) Official Language proficiency and education = 50
• B) Canadian work experience and education = 50

Subtotal = 50
Foreign work experience (to a maximum of 50 points)

• A) Official Language proficiency and foreign work experience = 50
• B) Canadian and foreign work experience = 50

Subtotal = 50
Certificate of qualification = 0
Subtotal Skill transferability factors = 100

Additional points (to a maximum of 600 points)
Provincial nomination = 0
Job offer = 0
Study in Canada = 30
Sibling in Canada = 0
French-language skills = 0
Subtotal Additional points = 30
Comprehensive Ranking System formula grand total = 526