Ray of hope - FSW - 1

[dkincanada]

Bruh... how do you say that an all program draw where CECs and FSWs are both invited, and for which CECs get more points than FSWs for their experience is selfish.... I don’t understand this..... you CEC guys want the world to be given to you... just like that... Raaah!

You are extremely selfish, because you only know part of the story that CECs have extra points, that’s all sticking to your head.

What you don’t know is more that 50 percent CEC’s don’t have CRS above 460 and their 3 year PGWP is expiring. You will be asking why? Because you didn’t do any research, do it now.

You don’t know anything because you are sitting in your home county. But you know what,IRCC knows what is right and that is the reason they are doing this.

If you still think you are right, then call IRCC selfish not CECs.

 

[Timbuktu_14]

Yes I know I was refused in the U.K. Yes I know I have not contributed to Canada, and yes I understand CEC contributions to Canada.... but CEC candidates are already compensated for it... for starters CEC candidates have more pathways to PR than outlanders... plus the extra points in EE... now that is not enough.. you guys want to monopolise EE entirely so that draws will be limited to CECs thereby shutting out outlanders completely... how do you consider this as fair.... o wrong nah....

You get time oo lol.

 

[vicecarloans]

I do understand your argument, but... you choose that path. You choose to come to Canada study, and I'm pretty sure that if you're here for that long, you probably already know how Express Entry works. You know what you have to do to achieve 470+. Have you worked towards that?
I live in a country where more than 50% of the population gets less than $200 USD per month, where every single close family member that I have has already being robbed or had a gun pointed to his/hers chest. I work 42 hours a day, I commute, I paid for my credentials through my own work, just like you did. Yet, I found time to wake up at 4AM every day to study for IELTS, to learn french, so that I could become competitive. Why? Well, because I knew that Express Entry was a competition. If I did nothing, I would not be able to leave the country where I was born.

Again, I **totally** support the idea that CECs should earn extra points. But, it freaks me out when even by earning these extra points, they still claim that they're not being treated fairly in the system. If people without Canadian Experience/Diploma points are getting 470+, why can't you too? Have you maxed out IELTS? Have you started learning french? If you really want to continue to continue to live in Canada, you should go after every single option available.

42 hours a day? I'm pretty sure a day only has 24 hours? Or are you saying you work for 24 hours a day?
I pretty much follow the same routine as you in terms of IELTS. FYI, those extra points aren't enough for CEC (holding 2 years diploma) to reach the cut-off...And hey CEC applicants also age too (making it harder to reach cut-off because pts reduced). I have friends who 30+ and still went to school as me and work in entry-level job as me. He sacrificed a lot to this economy.
So yes, I empathize your situation. But you must sacrifice it for Canada (I sound like Trump lol).

 

[dkincanada]

42 hours a day? I'm pretty sure a day only has 24 hours? Or are you saying you work for 24 hours a day?
I pretty much follow the same routine as you in terms of IELTS. FYI, those extra points aren't enough for CEC (holding 2 years diploma) to reach the cut-off...And hey CEC applicants also age too (making it harder to reach cut-off because pts reduced). I have friends who 30+ and still went to school as me and work in entry-level job as me. He sacrificed a lot to this economy.
So yes, I empathize your situation. But you must sacrifice it for Canada (I sound like Trump lol).

Absolutely true, I don’t know what is wrong with these guys, they don’t understand. They don’t research properly and throwing arguments.

 

[vicecarloans]

You are extremely selfish, because you only know part of the story that CECs have extra points, that’s all sticking to your head.

What you don’t know is more that 50 percent CEC’s don’t have CRS above 460 and there 3 year PGWP is expiring. You will be asking why? Because you didn’t do any research, do it now.

You don’t know anything because you are sitting in your home county. But you know what,IRCC knows what is right and that is the reason they are doing this.

If you still think you are right, then call IRCC selfish not CECs.

^^^ There you go. Not everyone can receive that sweet extra points.

 

[kisiro191]

Yes I know I was refused in the U.K. Yes I know I have not contributed to Canada, and yes I understand CEC contributions to Canada.... but CEC candidates are already compensated for it... for starters CEC candidates have more pathways to PR than outlanders... plus the extra points in EE... now that is not enough.. you guys want to monopolise EE entirely so that draws will be limited to CECs thereby shutting out outlanders completely... how do you consider this as fair.... o wrong nah....

I'm not saying the draw should be only for CEC. What I meant is that you should be happy and grateful with Canadian government when they still try to welcome immigrants outside of the country.

 

[Uncle Yayo]

You are extremely selfish, because you only know part of the story that CECs have extra points, that’s all sticking to your head.

What you don’t know is more that 50 percent CEC’s don’t have CRS above 460 and there 3 year PGWP is expiring. You will be asking why? Because you didn’t do any research, do it now.

You don’t know anything because you are sitting in your home county. But you know what,IRCC knows what is right and that is the reason they are doing this.

If you still think you are right, then call IRCC selfish not CECs.

Cry babies all of you... which story... go and study french like the outlanders and increase your points... instead of crying foul here... mtcheeeww

 

[Uncle Yayo]

You get time oo lol.

Omoh I ready for them gan....

 

[dkincanada]

Cry babies all of you... which story... go and study french like the outlanders and increase your points... instead of crying foul here... mtcheeeww

You are a Karen!!!

 

[Uncle Yayo]

I'm not saying the draw should be only for CEC. What I meant is that you should be happy and grateful with Canadian government when they still try to welcome immigrants outside of the country.

I have no issues with the Canadian government... they ve done/doing a superb job....

 

[dkincanada]

I have no issues with the Canadian government... they ve done/doing a superb job....

It’s clear that you have issues.

 

[Uncle Yayo]

Anyway guys.... I apologise if I’m being a bit insensitive here

It’s clear that you have issues.

lol, I don’t.. it’s not that deep

 

[vicecarloans]

It’s clear that you have issues.

It's futile my friend. Let this go...

 

[Uncle Yayo]

Anyway guys... I’m sorry if I have been insensitive.. I quite understand your plight and I totally support the need for a commensurate preference to be accorded CEC candidates.... in as much as FSWs support you, you should also support us... live and let live.... so please allow our ray of hope to shine in peace... lol. One love.

 

[student888]

Not trying to add fire to the flames between the CEC and FSW argument. But let’s take an « average » FSW candidate: say 29 years old, THREE years work exp and a masters degree with say 8777 IELTS, which gives him/her a score of 469.

Now let’s take those same credentials and see how the score changes when you change that to a Canadian masters and we’ll even reduce the work experience to ONE year and make that Canadian work experience.
So a CEC candidate, 29 years old, canadian Masters degree, ONE year of canadian work experience and ZERO foreign work experience, IELTS 8777, gets a score of 489.
So while the CEC candidate is less qualified than the FSW (because of less work experience), he still gets much highter points and what 489 has not got an ITA in any kind of all program draw? What 489 needs exclusive CEC draws to get an ITA?
Now if the CEC candidate has not attained as high a score as the one given above, the CEC is simply not as qualified as the FSW candidate. A CEC candidate that only has a Bachelors and 1 year of work experience is competing with an FSW that has a Masters and 3 years of work experience... unless the CEC candidates are saying they want ITA’s given to them over people who are more educated and have more work experience, that’s another discussion entirely and which is totally fine is that’s what they want but then say that explicitly instead of using the pretext of things being unfair when one party is just not nearly as qualified (because if they were their scores would reflect it).