+1(514) 937-9445 or Toll-free (Canada & US) +1 (888) 947-9445

Help on choosing universities

Ironclad

Champion Member
Aug 17, 2020
1,255
495
Canada
Bishop's tends to rank fairly high in student satisfaction - although it's obviously not a top university in Canada taking other factors into consideration. Most small schools score well in this category. In my opinion Bishop's is an OK choice for someone with somewhat lower grades who can't get accepted by one of the top 15-20 schools.

If someone has good grades and is looking for a small school, then my vote would be for Mount Allison. This school has a pretty solid reputation.
I agree , nowadays CS is a very competitive field, toppers from all over the world compete. Almost every other university having MS in CS in Canada have strict percentage requirements of minimum 77% to 80%. Surprisingly Bishop's is one of Universities that admit students who fall below the 70% mark. It may get very hard to convince the employer and to compete with the demanding competition these days. Just my opinion.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,133
21,672
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
I agree , nowadays CS is a very competitive field, toppers from all over the world compete. Almost every other university having MS in CS in Canada have strict percentage requirements of minimum 77% to 80%. Surprisingly Bishop's is one of Universities that admit students who fall below the 70% mark. It may get very hard to convince the employer and to compete with the demanding competition these days. Just my opinion.
I'm not familiar with Bishop's current cut offs.

All I can comment on is the employer perspective and how Canadians view these universities. When it comes down to it, if you have the grades and the cash for a top university like (U of T, Waterloo, McGill, etc) then it's a no-brainer and that's where you should go. This isn't just for a Master's in CS. I'm making a general comment regarding any level of university education in Canada.
 

Impatient Dankaroo

VIP Member
Jan 10, 2020
4,374
2,668
By the way, Avoid Bishop's University at all costs, especially a lot of Second World immigrants from Europe prefer that University so that they can flaunt it among their peers, most of them end up jobless and become a burden for the Canadian economy especially if they have no prior work experience. If you have work experience and have a knack only then go for such Universities.
Slamming Bishops down when there's a user in the thread called Bishops2020, no mercy shown
 

Impatient Dankaroo

VIP Member
Jan 10, 2020
4,374
2,668
I'm not familiar with Bishop's current cut offs.

All I can comment on is the employer perspective and how Canadians view these universities. When it comes down to it, if you have the grades and the cash for a top university like (U of T, Waterloo, McGill, etc) then it's a no-brainer and that's where you should go. This isn't just for a Master's in CS. I'm making a general comment regarding any level of university education in Canada.
Agreed. How good a university is depends on the context. Are you looking to work in the local area of the university or somewhere else in Canada. For example University of Manitoba I bet will guarantee you a job in Manitoba but is not much good outside of Manitoba. Also, certain schools specialize in certain subjects. For example York is average is pretty much most areas but is considered top tier in their business and law school. Some like UofT excel in all aspects. So, doing the research is critical. You can see where the alumni of the school work on LinkedIn, and if you're happy with those locations then go for it. It's well known that employers in Ontario prefer Ontario uni graduates
 
  • Like
Reactions: scylla

Bishops2020

Hero Member
Aug 8, 2020
539
269
Lol

Seriously I didn't notice that, what I said is only meant for Master degree seekers. Undergraduate degree seekers can somehow cope I guess.
You didn't say that though, you made a sweeping personal statement based on your own views. Bishop's is mainly undergraduate so it should be compared with similar institutions.
 

Ironclad

Champion Member
Aug 17, 2020
1,255
495
Canada
You didn't say that though, you made a sweeping personal statement based on your own views. Bishop's is mainly undergraduate so it should be compared with similar institutions.
No, it's not like that. To be honest almost every immigrant I came to know of in Canada are unhappy with their jobs and 90% of the time , they end up with a dead end job unrelated to their field. This applies to everyone irrespective of their background. It's really hard to get a white collar job and live up to their expectations but that's the bitter reality. Mechanical engineers are usually more successful in Canada according to my research.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Impatient Dankaroo

Impatient Dankaroo

VIP Member
Jan 10, 2020
4,374
2,668
No, it's not like that. To be honest almost every immigrant I came to know of in Canada are unhappy with their jobs and 90% of the time , they end up with a dead end job unrelated to their field. This applies to everyone irrespective of their background. It's really hard to get a white collar job and live up to their expectations but that's the bitter reality. Mechanical engineers are usually more successful in Canada according to my research.
Some bitter truth that not many people will want to hear
 

janesama

Hero Member
Aug 14, 2020
488
189
Category........
WP
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
22-04-2022
Med's Done....
13-08-2020
LANDED..........
16-11-2020
No, it's not like that. To be honest almost every immigrant I came to know of in Canada are unhappy with their jobs and 90% of the time , they end up with a dead end job unrelated to their field. This applies to everyone irrespective of their background. It's really hard to get a white collar job and live up to their expectations but that's the bitter reality. Mechanical engineers are usually more successful in Canada according to my research.
Excuse me, but that is the fault of those immigrants alone. You cannot come and expect same or better treatment from a country you were not born in. That’s why many immigrants after securing the dreamed PR are going back to their countries and say how disappointed they are of Canada. And it is not just the matter in Canada, people say the same about the UK, the US, etc. I have a grandmother who is US citizen and she is super not happy with it because she can only do a low-grade jobs despite of her high engineering qualifications back in USSR.
People will always spread hate and diss their uni. However, we all live once, and it is up to an individual immigrant to make their job not suck.
I agree, some jobs are more in demand than others, and that’s why you must do your research well. And you must also be active in your community and proactively search for a job
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ironclad

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,133
21,672
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
You didn't say that though, you made a sweeping personal statement based on your own views. Bishop's is mainly undergraduate so it should be compared with similar institutions.
It's definitely in the top 10 as schools go that are mainly undergraduate. I think it's a great choice for someone who wants the small school experience and doesn't have plans to work in Canada (or working in Canada really isn't a priority). Bishop's will provide a great student experience due to size. If someone has plans to work in Canada, then I would say it's just an "OK" choice (not great). Employers are generally biased towards three things when it comes to education and hiring. The first is top ranked schools (i.e. U of T, McGill, Waterloo, etc.). The second is the school they themselves attended (larger schools have the advantage here since they have a larger alumni pool, smaller schools are disadvantaged). The last is geographic (i.e. preference for schools located closer to them due to familiarity).
 
  • Like
Reactions: janesama

Bishops2020

Hero Member
Aug 8, 2020
539
269
No, it's not like that. To be honest almost every immigrant I came to know of in Canada are unhappy with their jobs and 90% of the time , they end up with a dead end job unrelated to their field. This applies to everyone irrespective of their background. It's really hard to get a white collar job and live up to their expectations but that's the bitter reality. Mechanical engineers are usually more successful in Canada according to my research.
The OP is asking about studying not working in Canada.
 

Ironclad

Champion Member
Aug 17, 2020
1,255
495
Canada
The OP is asking about studying not working in Canada.
I believe the sole reason to study is to get a job and PR eventually. For the one's who only need a paper certificate, they are welcome. Sooner or later Canada will no longer be the premier destination for International students because this madness has to end someday.
 

Impatient Dankaroo

VIP Member
Jan 10, 2020
4,374
2,668
Excuse me, but that is the fault of those immigrants alone. You cannot come and expect same or better treatment from a country you were not born in. That’s why many immigrants after securing the dreamed PR are going back to their countries and say how disappointed they are of Canada. And it is not just the matter in Canada, people say the same about the UK, the US, etc. I have a grandmother who is US citizen and she is super not happy with it because she can only do a low-grade jobs despite of her high engineering qualifications back in USSR.
People will always spread hate and diss their uni. However, we all live once, and it is up to an individual immigrant to make their job not suck.
I agree, some jobs are more in demand than others, and that’s why you must do your research well. And you must also be active in your community and proactively search for a job
Well you are both correct, the dissappointment comes from the high expectations of the individual. Almost every immigrant or student I've met has had a vision of what Canada was going to be for them and alot of the times, the reality is the not as envisioned. It is possible to succeed in Canada, make no mistake about that but it will require hard work, perseverance and struggle. Some will come through achieving their goals but for every person that succeeds, there will be others that won't make it
 

Bluejayscardinals

Star Member
Oct 21, 2020
178
87
With a 65% out of undergrad you would be best to apply to community colleges for graduate diplomas in your field. You will not get into a Masters program with those grades. Comp Sci is fiercely competitive.