Receiving COPR for CEC Inland Application While being Outside Canada

[Mario 66]

Thanks for sharing the updated information. The clear question is what would happen if you do not inform IRCC for your departure date and leaving Canada? If they check the system before issuing the CORP, so what is the point of letting IRCC know where are we at the moment... Does it impact the decision of an immigration officer for the final review?

 

[shayusuf247]

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[legalfalcon]

Thanks for sharing the updated information. The clear question is what would happen if you do not inform IRCC for your departure date and leaving Canada? If they check the system before issuing the CORP, so what is the point of letting IRCC know where are we at the moment... Does it impact the decision of an immigration officer for the final review?

After the COVD, many IRCC protocols do not have any established manuals, or at least they are not publicly available. The rule is simple, the when you receive a COPR, if you are inland, it is already activated, i.e. your landing details are entered in the system and you become a PR as on the date you receive it.

As soon as you become a PR, all other existing visas are cancelled. If an applicant is outside Canada when he receives the COPR, the same will happen, irrespective of whether IRCC checks or not and to travel back you need a PR, or a PRTD.

If you are travelling outside Canada and expecting a COPR as an inland, you can inform IRCC and wait for further instructions.

 

[bebopt]

So, from what I gather. For an inland applicant, It is always the case that when the COPR is issued any visa you have is cancelled.
Meaning that if you are outside/inside Canada at that time, you would need to request a PRTD to come back into Canada if you travel abroad?

Edit: Just saw your response above legalfalcon, thanks for the information.

 

[gta88]

Your assumption is right and this is logically what should happen. This is why IRCC is now implementing a new portal to validate COPRs and PR visas to know if the applicant is in Canada or outside. Also, before the PPR is sent, during the final review, IRCC does confirm though the FOSS check if the applicant is in Canada or not. Starting 2018, all exit an entries from to to canada by any individual are logged in the system.

Also, now IRCC is sending this email to many applicants that reads:

Thanks! Can you share if IRCC has released any update regarding the same?

 

[gta88]

@legalfalcon
A friend of mine who recently returned on a PRTD has a confusion regarding a question on his PR Card application form. Question is - Have you ever received a removal order?
Due to one issue few years ago, he was asked by border people to voluntarily leave Canada in 14 days. He obeyed the order and then became a PR eventually.
He is finding it difficult to understand whether it was a departure order or not and whether he should answer Yes or No to the question.
Can you please share your expertise on this?

 

[legalfalcon]

@legalfalcon
A friend of mine who recently returned on a PRTD has a confusion regarding a question on his PR Card application form. Question is - Have you ever received a removal order?
Due to one issue few years ago, he was asked by border people to voluntarily leave Canada in 14 days. He obeyed the order and then became a PR eventually.
He is finding it difficult to understand whether it was a departure order or not and whether he should answer Yes or No to the question.
Can you please share your expertise on this?

If this the first time he has entered Canada as a PR. If so then he does not have to fill in any form to request the PR card. The first card is issued automatically as soon as the applicant provide their Canadian address to IRCC. Usually done at the port of entry, or you can even send a webform for it.

You only need to fill the form it you are renewing the PR card.

 

[legalfalcon]

Thanks! Can you share if IRCC has released any update regarding the same?

As of now there has been no formal update. Some applicants have received emails and it was confirmed on twitter in response by a person who received such a message.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1318451232143527941

 

[gta88]

If this the first time he has entered Canada as a PR. If so then he does not have to fill in any form to request the PR card. The first card is issued automatically as soon as the applicant provide their Canadian address to IRCC. Usually done at the port of entry, or you can even send a webform for it.

You only need to fill the form it you are renewing the PR card.

Yes, this is regarding applying for PR card replacement. Hence, the question. Thank you.

 

[legalfalcon]

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Yes, this is regarding applying for PR card replacement. Hence, the question. Thank you.

A voluntary departure is not a removal order. A removal order is issued when someone is convicted of breaching the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act in Canada. If you have committed a crime or are in Canada fraudulently, you could be issued a removal order.

The removal order is issued by a court.

 

[gta88]

Th


A voluntary departure is not a removal order. A removal order is issued when someone is convicted of breaching the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act in Canada. If you have committed a crime or are in Canada fraudulently, you could be issued a removal order.

The removal order is issued by a court.

That is really relevant information. But I also read that Departure order is a voluntary departure notice where people have to leave within 30 days. So is that issued by court too?

 

[legalfalcon]

That is really relevant information. But I also read that Departure order is a voluntary departure notice where people have to leave within 30 days. So is that issued by court too?

There are three types of Removal Orders issued by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) or the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA). These are Departure Orders, Exclusion Orders and Deportation Orders. The form number on the Removal Order indicates what type of order you received.

• With a Departure Order, you must leave Canada within 30 days after the order takes effect.
  • You must also confirm your departure with the CBSA at your port of exit. If you leave Canada and follow these procedures, you may return to Canada in the future provided you meet the entry requirements at that time.
  • If you leave Canada after 30 days or do not confirm your departure with the CBSA, your Departure Order will automatically become a Deportation Order. In order to return to Canada in the future, you must obtain an Authorization to Return to Canada (ARC).
• With an Exclusion Order, you cannot return to Canada for one year.
  • If you do wish to return before the 12 months have passed, you must apply for an ARC.
  • If an exclusion order has been issued for misrepresentation, you cannot return to Canada for five years.
  • If the CBSA paid for your removal from Canada, you must repay that cost.
• With a Deportation Order, you are permanently barred from returning to Canada and cannot return unless you apply for an ARC.
  • If the CBSA paid for your removal from Canada, you must also repay that cost before you are eligible to return.

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/security-securite/rem-ren-eng.html

 

[shomaro]

Also, now IRCC is sending this email to many applicants that reads:

I have been assigned to process your Permanent Resident Application XXXXXxXX - parties on this application are - XXXXXX (UCI XXXxxxxx) and family Xxxxxxxx(UCI xxxxxxxx), xxxxxxx (UCI xxxxxxxxxx),and Xxxxxxxxxx (UCI xxxxxxxxxx) .

Can you please verify that you and all family members on this application are currently in Canada at this time. If all family members are in Canada, then they can be granted Permanent Resident Status Virtually. If you are not in Canada, then you will be landed either at a Port of entry upon returning to the country or you can make an appointment with Immigration upon returning to the country.

Dear @legalfalcon Thank you for your posts as I learned so much from them since I joined this forum. Just a quick question of the letter sample you sent here: I'm in Canada and my spouse who is on the same application is living abroad. Our case should be in the final stage, so under the current COVID situation, whether I will receive CoPR by email and directly become a PR, or I will also be requested to send my passport for a PR visa, just as my spouse? Do we have to land together? Thanks a lot.

 

[gta88]

There are three types of Removal Orders issued by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) or the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA). These are Departure Orders, Exclusion Orders and Deportation Orders. The form number on the Removal Order indicates what type of order you received.

• With a Departure Order, you must leave Canada within 30 days after the order takes effect.
  • You must also confirm your departure with the CBSA at your port of exit. If you leave Canada and follow these procedures, you may return to Canada in the future provided you meet the entry requirements at that time.
  • If you leave Canada after 30 days or do not confirm your departure with the CBSA, your Departure Order will automatically become a Deportation Order. In order to return to Canada in the future, you must obtain an Authorization to Return to Canada (ARC).
• With an Exclusion Order, you cannot return to Canada for one year.
  • If you do wish to return before the 12 months have passed, you must apply for an ARC.
  • If an exclusion order has been issued for misrepresentation, you cannot return to Canada for five years.
  • If the CBSA paid for your removal from Canada, you must repay that cost.
• With a Deportation Order, you are permanently barred from returning to Canada and cannot return unless you apply for an ARC.
  • If the CBSA paid for your removal from Canada, you must also repay that cost before you are eligible to return.

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/security-securite/rem-ren-eng.html

Thanks for the explanation!!

 

[gta88]

Does foreign part time teaching experience gained while being a full time student in the foreign country count towards CRS points?