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*** Elgibility Passed, Criminality Passed, Security Not started *** Lets gather here

Halim92

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Hi Guys,

My AOR is 14th May 2019, and I passed Eligibility and Criminality last November. I was asked to submit CV, Schedule A and travel history also last Nov, however, compared to other applicant, my security didn't start so far. I know two other May applicants who are facing the same situations.

So how many of use are facing the same situation? Is it a new way of hiding SS activities ?
 

Dashmeet

Full Member
Feb 28, 2019
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Hello @legalfalcon @caipsnotes. My AOR is 30th June,2019. The latest update on my GCMS notes is eligibility, criminality passed since oct,2019. But security is NOT STARTED even now. Moreover, s15 is not mentioned on security admissibility page. Can you please help me understanding this and what we can do in this situation.
 

legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
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4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
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05-04-2016
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Hello @legalfalcon My AOR is 30th June,2019. The latest update on my GCMS notes is eligibility, criminality passed since oct,2019. But security is NOT STARTED even now. Moreover, s15 is not mentioned on security admissibility page. Can you please help me understanding this and what we can do in this situation.
The security only starts after your eligibility is conclusively passed.

See this link and you can compare your GCMS notes to see if your eligibility is passed.

https://bit.ly/2ZMoH8L
 

Dashmeet

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Feb 28, 2019
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Hi @legalfalcon .Eligibility is passed by officer in notes section. Also does this security started really means it’s not started yet? Also in the cbsa notes also it’s showing as not started. Thanks.
 

legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
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App. Filed.......
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Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon .Eligibility is passed by officer in notes section. Also does this security started really means it’s not started yet? Also in the cbsa notes also it’s showing as not started. Thanks.
If own page 2 It says not started, then it is not started. It could be an administrative delay and you will have to wait. For most the security is quick, and takes 1-3 weeks to be done.

If on page 2 the security is blank, then it may be in progress or completed.
 

Dashmeet

Full Member
Feb 28, 2019
33
1
If own page 2 It says not started, then it is not started. It could be an administrative delay and you will have to wait. For most the security is quick, and takes 1-3 weeks to be done.

@legalfalcon If on page 2 the security is blank, then it may be in progress or completed.
@legalfalcon It’s not started on page 2 as well. This is a worrying sign for me. I know few others having Ottawa VO in the same situation. Moreover there is no red flags or RR at any place in my file. Any suggestions from your side how can we get our files noticed?
Thanks
 

Walle_007

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Aug 8, 2019
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Cec 21 april . Eligibility passed on july 17 ( conclusively by officer)

Security not started as of last week, One heck of administrative delay : (
 

legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
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NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon It’s not started on page 2 as well. This is a worrying sign for me. I know few others having Ottawa VO in the same situation. Moreover there is no red flags or RR at any place in my file. Any suggestions from your side how can we get our files noticed?
Thanks
This is just an administrative delay. No need to be concerned, Just wait it out.
 
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caipsnotes

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Hello @legalfalcon @caipsnotes. My AOR is 30th June,2019. The latest update on my GCMS notes is eligibility, criminality passed since oct,2019. But security is NOT STARTED even now. Moreover, s15 is not mentioned on security admissibility page. Can you please help me understanding this and what we can do in this situation.
Hello, thanks for reaching out. Your Security will start in due course, nothing to be worried about and there is not anything an applicant can do to initiate it either. Once your security starts "Not Started" will be redacted and it will look like the example here https://gcmsnotes.com/stories/sample-gcms/

No point requesting CBSA/CSIS notes until Security starts. Instead raise a web form and if they tell you that Security is valid it can be interpreted as passed. More about web form responses here
 

Dashmeet

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Feb 28, 2019
33
1
Hello, thanks for reaching out. Your Security will start in due course, nothing to be worried about and there is not anything an applicant can do to initiate it either. Once your security starts "Not Started" will be redacted and it will look like the example here https://gcmsnotes.com/stories/sample-gcms/

No point requesting CBSA/CSIS notes until Security starts. Instead raise a web form and if they tell you that Security is valid it can be interpreted as passed. More about web form responses here
Thanks @caipsnotes . Really appreciate your detailed response. One more thing I forgot to mention is s15 is mentioned on the same notes 4 page where officer has passed the eligibility, criminality and no adverse info found but nothing is blank on that page. Can we conclude something from this?
 

Dashmeet

Full Member
Feb 28, 2019
33
1
This is just an administrative delay. No need to be concerned, Just wait it out.
Hi @legalfalcon. One more thing I forgot to mention is s15 is mentioned on the same notes 4 page where officer has passed the eligibility, criminality and no adverse info found but nothing is blank on that page. Can we conclude something from this?
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon. One more thing I forgot to mention is s15 is mentioned on the same notes 4 page where officer has passed the eligibility, criminality and no adverse info found but nothing is blank on that page. Can we conclude something from this?

s15 is the section from the Access to Information Act under which the information on the page has been redacted.

S15 states:

  • 15 (1) The head of a government institution may refuse to disclose any record requested under this Part that contains information the disclosure of which could reasonably be expected to be injurious to the conduct of international affairs, the defence of Canada or any state allied or associated with Canada or the detection, prevention or suppression of subversive or hostile activities, including, without restricting the generality of the foregoing, any such information
    • (a) relating to military tactics or strategy, or relating to military exercises or operations undertaken in preparation for hostilities or in connection with the detection, prevention or suppression of subversive or hostile activities;
    • (b) relating to the quantity, characteristics, capabilities or deployment of weapons or other defence equipment or of anything being designed, developed, produced or considered for use as weapons or other defence equipment;
    • (c) relating to the characteristics, capabilities, performance, potential, deployment, functions or role of any defence establishment, of any military force, unit or personnel or of any organization or person responsible for the detection, prevention or suppression of subversive or hostile activities;
    • (d) obtained or prepared for the purpose of intelligence relating to
      • (i) the defence of Canada or any state allied or associated with Canada, or
      • (ii) the detection, prevention or suppression of subversive or hostile activities;
    • (e) obtained or prepared for the purpose of intelligence respecting foreign states, international organizations of states or citizens of foreign states used by the Government of Canada in the process of deliberation and consultation or in the conduct of international affairs;
    • (f) on methods of, and scientific or technical equipment for, collecting, assessing or handling information referred to in paragraph (d) or (e) or on sources of such information;
    • (g) on the positions adopted or to be adopted by the Government of Canada, governments of foreign states or international organizations of states for the purpose of present or future international negotiations;
    • (h) that constitutes diplomatic correspondence exchanged with foreign states or international organizations of states or official correspondence exchanged with Canadian diplomatic missions or consular posts abroad; or
    • (i) relating to the communications or cryptographic systems of Canada or foreign states used
      • (i) for the conduct of international affairs,
      • (ii) for the defence of Canada or any state allied or associated with Canada, or
      • (iii) in relation to the detection, prevention or suppression of subversive or hostile activities.

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