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caipsnotes

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thank you for the detailed answers @caipsnotes and @legalfalcon! these are really helpful notes on how to interpret our gcms notes. :)

by the way, do you guys have any idea how long is the final review from the officer? stay safe everyone and here's to hoping that they'll release our golden e-mails soon!
You are welcome. Timelines are a bit off these days so hard to predict when but in due course you will receive an update.
 

legalfalcon

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Hi guys,

When I sent my first webform asking for the progress of my application and got the following response:

The background verifications are currently valid.
The security background verification is currently valid.
The criminal background verification is currently valid
.

I realised they didn't mention about eligibility like I had asked and sent another webform and got the following response:

The responsible office is currently verifying if your application meets the eligibility requirements under the immigration program for which you have applied.

On my third webform in under 2 weeks asking what 'currently valid' meant I got the following response:

-The eligibility review has been met.

-The security background verification has been met.

-The criminal background verification has been met.


Please note the second and last webform came 3 days apart. Guys, I even more confused now. Are these guys just playing around with words lol? @legalfalcon . Does this now confirm that im just waiting for PPR?

Thanks in advance.
The webform responses are ambiguous and it is difficult to gauge what stage an application is at just based on the webform responses.

However, in your webform response it clearly states "eligibility review has been met", so most likely your eligibility is passed or recommended passed.

See my previous post to understand the difference.
#3,199
 

legalfalcon

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Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
thank you for the detailed answers @legalfalcon! these are really helpful notes on how to interpret our gcms notes. :)

by the way, do you guys have any idea how long is the final review from the officer? stay safe everyone and here's to hoping that they'll release our golden e-mails soon!

The final review after the eligibility is passed depends on many factors, such as your VO, the work load, etc. Currently IRCC is not issuing any PPRs for outland applicants. This too is delaying the final approval. A lot of the applications see COVID pace in the GCMS notes. It is yet to be seen what exactly it means, but does indicate that IRCC issuing slower, or not issuing PPRs unless the respective visa offices in your country reopen or the travel restrictions are removed.

However, if your application has cleared eligibility, you need not worry. Once the process to send PPR starts, you will surely get an approval .
 
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lance494

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The final review after the eligibility is passed depends on many factors, such as your VO, the work load, etc. Currently IRCC is not issuing any PPRs for outland applicants. This too is delaying the final approval. A lot of the applications see COVID pace in the GCMS notes. It is yet to be seen what exactly it means, but does indicate that IRCC issuing slower, or not issuing PPRs unless the respective visa offices in your country reopen or the travel restrictions are removed.

However, if your application has cleared eligibility, you need not worry. Once the process to send PPR starts, you will surely get an approval .
@legalfalcon Quick question. You are saying, we don't have to worry about anything if we have cleared eligibility. My eligibility is passed but in GCMS, my security is blank and has s 15 on right top side. Does it mean security is still in progress? Also, the notes section says "Ready for approval". So, the security is completed or pending? Should I be worried? Please see attached image.


Should I be concerned about anything at all? Thanks!!
 

legalfalcon

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@legalfalcon Quick question. You are saying, we don't have to worry about anything if we have cleared eligibility. My eligibility is passed but in GCMS, my security is blank and has s 15 on right top side. Does it mean security is still in progress? Also, the notes section says "Ready for approval". So, the security is completed or pending? Should I be worried? Please see attached image.


Should I be concerned about anything at all? Thanks!!

In the GCMS notes, the security related details are redacted. On page 2 of your assessment if your security assessment is blank, then your security is most likely in progress.

On page 2, you will see s 15 / 16 on the top right corner of the page. This is the section of the Access to Information Act under which your security related details have been redacted. To read more on redactions see https://bit.ly/3kv5G3p

Further, How the security is done and the procedure, see https://bit.ly/3fDNpgV

The note that reads ready for approval is based on your eligibility subject to your security. See the links to read on how security is done and what the procedure is.

If your eligibility is passed, you need not worry at all. Security for is a formality and will be done in due course.
 

uceman

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Just received the following response from IRCC:
  • The eligibility verifications are currently valid.
  • The security background verification is currently valid.
  • The criminal background verification is currently valid.
Does that mean my application is ready for PPR? @legalfalcon
 

legalfalcon

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AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Just received the following response from IRCC:
  • The eligibility verifications are currently valid.
  • The security background verification is currently valid.
  • The criminal background verification is currently valid.
Does that mean my application is ready for PPR? @legalfalcon
The webforms are not an accurate source to know. Eligibility verifications valid means that your eligibility is most likely recommended passed. See m previous post on this #3,199
 
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uceman

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The webforms are not an accurate source to know. Eligibility verifications valid means that your eligibility is most likely recommended passed. See m previous post on this #3,199
Thanks so much @legalfalcon I actually got my GCMS notes a couple of months ago and I know eligibility is passed, but last I checked I was under security screening. Previous webforms indicated that the security background was "in progress", but now it says "currently valid" so not sure if there is a difference
 

Ndera

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The webform responses are ambiguous and it is difficult to gauge what stage an application is at just based on the webform responses.

However, in your webform response it clearly states "eligibility review has been met", so most likely your eligibility is passed or recommended passed.

See my previous post to understand the difference.
#3,199
@legalfalcon Thanks for your response. I finally got my GCMS Notes yesterday and this is the summary:

ASSESSMENTS
Eligibility: Passed
Security: s15 (1). top right corner
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed
Misrepresentation:
Info sharing: Complete
Other Reqs: Cancelled


GROUP NAME:


Group name: 1
Created Date: 2020/06/04
Name: CN COVID PACE
Status: In progress
Type: PR- Other


Notes: 4
Created Date: 2020/02/22
Updated Date: 2020/02/22
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC- Ottawa
Text: Final decision pending rework of PA's IMM Medicals. Request in process


Note: 5
Created Date: 2019/12/09
Updated Date: 2019/12/09
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC- Ottawa
Text:
Case Analyst: ***REVIEW REQUIRED***


RECOMMENDATION:
Review Required SUMMARY NOTES: OFFICER PLEASE REVIEW NOC. IT APPEARS THAT THE NOC IS NOT VALID. A11.2: Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA- FSW POINTS/ Funds: Review Required FSW points total: 59 Outstanding Documents (Not Requested):- PA Meds - Re-evaluation Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete

What can I make from this? The case analyst says NOC is not valid. Im pretty confident this is the right NOC and given that Eligibility was passed, does this mean they finally realized their mistake. Does this confirm waiting for PPR?
 
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legalfalcon

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Ottawa
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4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon Thanks for your response. I finally got my GCMS Notes yesterday and this is the summary:

ASSESSMENTS
Eligibility: Passed
Security: s15 (1). top right corner
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed
Misrepresentation:
Info sharing: Complete
Other Reqs: Cancelled


GROUP NAME:


Group name: 1
Created Date: 2020/06/04
Name: CN COVID PACE
Status: In progress
Type: PR- Other


Notes: 4
Created Date: 2020/02/22
Updated Date: 2020/02/22
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC- Ottawa
Text: Final decision pending rework of PA's IMM Medicals. Request in process


Note: 5
Created Date: 2019/12/09
Updated Date: 2019/12/09
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC- Ottawa
Text:
Case Analyst: ***REVIEW REQUIRED***


RECOMMENDATION:
Review Required SUMMARY NOTES: OFFICER PLEASE REVIEW NOC. IT APPEARS THAT THE NOC IS NOT VALID. A11.2: Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA- FSW POINTS/ Funds: Review Required FSW points total: 59 Outstanding Documents (Not Requested):- PA Meds - Re-evaluation Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete

What can I make from this? The case analyst says NOC is not valid. Im pretty confident this is the right NOC and given that Eligibility was passed, does this mean they finally realized their mistake. Does this confirm waiting for PPR?
Based on your GCMS notes, your eligibility is yet to be determined by an officer. You can read my previous post to see how the GCMS notes should look like when your eligibility is passed by an officer. You only have a case analyst notes.

The post is available at #3,199

As regards review required, my old post, which I am reporting here:

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.
Also on page 2, your security is redacted. So most likely your security has started. If your Job duties substantially match the job duties of the NOC selected, then you need not worry.
 
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legalfalcon

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4112
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AOR Received.
03-09-2015
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12-04-2016
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Mpsadr3239rr

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Hi friends.
Given the fact that the information about security is redacted in GCMS notes, does ordering a CBSA note reveal the redacted information?