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Ray of Hope - 158th Draw

izzyhu1106

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Jul 29, 2020
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Does the FST draw indicate the possibility of EE draws going back to normal completely?
Can we expect another all program draw two weeks later?
 

aj534160

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Apr 13, 2019
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When someone declines an ITA and their profile goes back into the pool, do they get back the original profile creation date or is it now the date that the profile goes back into the pool?
Why would one decline an ITA and waste the opportunity of another genuine candidate?
I mean, how on earth will one be irresponsible that they did not do enough homework before clinching an ITA?
As far as I know, everyone is well prepared with the documents, checklists, and everything to ensure that they simply move forward and submit all the docs unlike some dudes that are not aware of what he or she is doing and once obtaining an ITA, they will suddenly realize they left something apart.
Eventually, such dudes keep declining ITAs for one reason or another and squander away the opportunity of another candidate who is more than 100% prepared and fully aware of his/her documents.
I wish IRCC introduces a small penalty on dudes who decline an ITA and waste it
 

13nitinsharma

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Apr 17, 2012
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Why would one decline an ITA and waste the opportunity of another genuine candidate?
I mean, how on earth will one be irresponsible that they did not do enough homework before clinching an ITA?
As far as I know, everyone is well prepared with the documents, checklists, and everything to ensure that they simply move forward and submit all the docs unlike some dudes that are not aware of what he or she is doing and once obtaining an ITA, they will suddenly realize they left something apart.
Eventually, such dudes keep declining ITAs for one reason or another and squander away the opportunity of another candidate who is more than 100% prepared and fully aware of his/her documents.
I wish IRCC introduces a small penalty on dudes who decline an ITA and waste it
Pretty well covered!
 

zekkeh

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Sep 15, 2019
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Why would one decline an ITA and waste the opportunity of another genuine candidate?
I mean, how on earth will one be irresponsible that they did not do enough homework before clinching an ITA?
As far as I know, everyone is well prepared with the documents, checklists, and everything to ensure that they simply move forward and submit all the docs unlike some dudes that are not aware of what he or she is doing and once obtaining an ITA, they will suddenly realize they left something apart.
Eventually, such dudes keep declining ITAs for one reason or another and squander away the opportunity of another candidate who is more than 100% prepared and fully aware of his/her documents.
I wish IRCC introduces a small penalty on dudes who decline an ITA and waste it
Its partly because of people who spread fake news about work experience. they think they because the work experience is calculated by months in the profile, they’re obligated to decline ITAs until such a time that they officially have X years of experience, down to the exact number of days.

Do they think IRCC is so dumb to let that happen? like obviously they know that by only requesting for the months in work experience, there’ll be people who have not clocked exactly X years of experience when they receive ITA. So I believe it’s perfectly fine to accept an ITA if you’ve input your work experience properly, even if the exact number of days worked has not been attained.
 

hilda89

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Feb 14, 2018
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If they do all program draws every two weeks, it's possible, but if they do alternating draws, looks like a stretch to me
I don't want to get my hopes up, but they did two federal draws this week, and I am really hoping that they will continue the federal draw.
 

EscoBlades

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Jul 22, 2020
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Why would one decline an ITA and waste the opportunity of another genuine candidate?
I wish IRCC introduces a small penalty on dudes who decline an ITA and waste it
Life happens. Hell, there are numerous instances on this forum alone, where people get their ITA and then some life changing event happens right after that would affect their points, eligibility, etc, meaning that for WHATEVER reason, they choose not to accept the invitation at that time. That's their prerogative and we'd all be better off worrying less about how other folks handle their ITAs, and more about getting through our own individual applications.
 

hydrizxcv

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Jan 16, 2020
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Guys, since there's been a disproportionate increase in the number of 471-480 candidates compared to scores below that range do we expect the next draw to have > 476 or <476?

I'm at 475. How good is my chance?
 

ns317

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Aug 29, 2019
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Guys, since there's been a disproportionate increase in the number of 471-480 candidates compared to scores below that range do we expect the next draw to have > 476 or <476?

I'm at 475. How good is my chance?
The increase to the pool has been as per trend, not disproportionate. In the last draw, everybody in the pool with scores 476, 477 and half of those with 478 (cut-off months March to August) were called - these included guys waiting in the pool from late February onwards and there would have been at least 1,500-1,700 of them accumulated over 5 months. Then there were at least 600-700 PNP as a lot of the early June NOI guys got nominated in the two weeks before this draw. Together, these two groups make up around 2,400 of the invitees. So the new people who joined the pool over the last month were at most some 1,500 between scores 476 and 600. Not crazy high. You can reasonably extrapolate this to a high estimate of 2,000 new people above 475 joining the pool every month, not including PNP.

So if inflow remains as it is, 475 is a shoo-in for the next all programs draw, whether it happens in two weeks or one month.
 
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armaanwadhwa

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The increase to the pool has been as per trend, not disproportionate. In the last draw, everybody in the pool with scores 476, 477 and half of those with 478 (cut-off months March to August) were called - these included guys waiting in the pool from late February onwards and there would have been at least 1,500-1,700 of them accumulated over 5 months. Then there were at least 600-700 PNP as a lot of the early June NOI guys got nominated in the two weeks before this draw. Together, these two groups make up around 2,400 of the invitees. So the new people who joined the pool over the last two weeks were at most some 1,500 between scores 476 and 600. Not crazy high. You can reasonably extrapolate this to a high estimate of 2,000 new people above 475 joining the pool every two weeks, not including PNP.

So if inflow remains as it is, 475 is a shoo-in for the next all programs draw, whether it happens in two weeks or one month.
I think this influx of 471+ cannot continue given the current climate. If they have regular draws going forward, it will easily come below 470. After months of building up, the cut off was 478 then 476. We are talking months of building up. Few more regular draws, and we shall see below 470.
 

ns317

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Aug 29, 2019
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I think this influx of 471+ cannot continue given the current climate. If they have regular draws going forward, it will easily come below 470. After months of building up, the cut off was 478 then 476. We are talking months of building up. Few more regular draws, and we shall see below 470.
Yeah my guess is that the point where inflow meets outflow at present is around 467-468. It’s only speculation once you get to such granular levels because of lack of adequate data. Essentially this means that with regular draws, score will drop to that level and not any further.

Pre-covid, the same level was 470-471. As various things open up more, it will gradually climb back to that level.
 
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samirsam

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Sep 11, 2019
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Yeah my guess is that the point where inflow meets outflow at present is around 467-468. It’s only speculation once you get to such granular levels because of lack of adequate data. Essentially this means that with regular draws, score will drop to that level and not any further.

Pre-covid, the same level was 470-471. As various things open up more, it will gradually climb back to that level.
Yeah but now unfortunately we will have 1 draw per month :( for fsw
 

cancan90

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Apr 29, 2020
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my daughter was born a week before I Recieved my ITA but I couldn't update it in my profile. Can I update now?