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PR landing completed at Peace Arch border, no quarantine and returned to US using AVR

Roshwarner

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7/13/2020

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Thank you.
 

Shahbaz12

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Jul 24, 2019
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Hi all just wanted to update you that I have completed my soft landing at peach arch and was able to successfully return back the same day to USA using AVR. I was allowed to take a u turn to USA border without staying 14 days quarantine. Hope this helps to other folks who want to travel...
 

fwscu

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Feb 28, 2020
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Hi all just wanted to update you that I have completed my soft landing at peach arch and was able to successfully return back the same day to USA using AVR. I was allowed to take a u turn to USA border without staying 14 days quarantine. Hope this helps to other folks who want to travel...
Interesting! I thought, with the new rulings, they would not allow "soft landing" from US to Canada. So that only permanent move/settlement is permitted. Looks like "soft landing/U-turn" is still doable.
 

pp90032

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Jul 16, 2020
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Looks like soft landing and returning back to USA is not an option anymore? From their website https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/coronavirus-covid19/immigration-applicants.html
If you’re outside Canada
If you come to Canada, make sure you’re exempt from the travel restrictions. You won’t be allowed to enter Canada right now if you’re travelling for reasons like:

  • tourism
  • recreation
  • entertainment
  • to finalize your permanent residence application but not settle here yet
These are not valid reasons to come to Canada right now.
So ppl who have got their CoPR after March 18th and not completed travel, can no longer complete the process and come back?
 

Roshwarner

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Jul 6, 2020
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Hello, I wanted to give you an update that I was successfully able to come back to the US using AVR. I had expired F1 visa and approved I797/I94 for H1b.

Landing in Canada: June 30, Toronto Pearson (Air Canada)
I was in quarantine for 14 days.

Re-entry into the US: July 20 Toronto Pearson
I booked air canada and the staff was trained. She gave me a boarding pass using information on my I797/I94

Next at CBP booth, the asked my arrival date in canada, my occupation. Then sent me to secondary inspection. There, I was asked my current address in the US, my job, company, company address. It was smooth. Also they advised me to carry original I797/I94 always (which I already had). Then they let me go.

Thank you everyone for your help! Special thanks to @harirajmohan.

Happy to answer any questions!
 

Roshwarner

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Jul 6, 2020
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Congratulations!!!!! I know you were super stressed (as I am currently) so I'm extra happy for you!

What questions did they ask about your job?
Thank you, they asked what I did, where is the company, what is the company? Just basic questions.
 

im2gaurav

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Jun 16, 2018
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Hello, I wanted to give you an update that I was successfully able to come back to the US using AVR. I had expired F1 visa and approved I797/I94 for H1b.

Landing in Canada: June 30, Toronto Pearson (Air Canada)
I was in quarantine for 14 days.

Re-entry into the US: July 20 Toronto Pearson
I booked air canada and the staff was trained. She gave me a boarding pass using information on my I797/I94

Next at CBP booth, the asked my arrival date in canada, my occupation. Then sent me to secondary inspection. There, I was asked my current address in the US, my job, company, company address. It was smooth. Also they advised me to carry original I797/I94 always (which I already had). Then they let me go.

Thank you everyone for your help! Special thanks to @harirajmohan.

Happy to answer any questions!
Congratulations
 

im2gaurav

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Jun 16, 2018
41
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Hello, I wanted to give you an update that I was successfully able to come back to the US using AVR. I had expired F1 visa and approved I797/I94 for H1b.

Landing in Canada: June 30, Toronto Pearson (Air Canada)
I was in quarantine for 14 days.

Re-entry into the US: July 20 Toronto Pearson
I booked air canada and the staff was trained. She gave me a boarding pass using information on my I797/I94

Next at CBP booth, the asked my arrival date in canada, my occupation. Then sent me to secondary inspection. There, I was asked my current address in the US, my job, company, company address. It was smooth. Also they advised me to carry original I797/I94 always (which I already had). Then they let me go.

Thank you everyone for your help! Special thanks to @harirajmohan.

Happy to answer any questions!
Did officer at Canada border asked anything about final destination quarantine?
 

im2gaurav

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Jun 16, 2018
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Yesterday I completed landing and now in quarantine for 2 weeks....Can I apply for sin now and give US address proof?? Can I answer this question "Is the Applicant Currently Residing in Canada? (required)" as "No" because after 2 weeks I will go back to USA???
Hi, can you share your experience of returning back to USA. Also were you able to apply for the SIN number?
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Would warn people, especially those flying, that Canada has realized that many people are doimg soft landings and there seems to be more questionning going on. Not surprising since many planes as well as those arriving from the US have brought in covid.
 

naiyagupta

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Jul 25, 2020
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Hello Everyone,

My CoPR is expiring in September. I am planning to go to Canada border through Niagara Falls, complete the PR process and come back the same day. Basically, I wont enter Canada, so wont be required to quarantine. One of my friend did the same thing. My friend mentioned that the officer said that since they dont have physical address in Canada, they cannot apply for PR card at this point of time. They might do online or when they actually come to Canada. I want to know about the PR card process before going for soft landing. Anyone had similar experience?
If I go to Toronto airport, complete soft landing process and return to USA same day. I will not go outside the Toronto airport, will I be required to quarantine in Canada? Are flights operating between USA and Canada now?
Also, my H-1b stamping is valid till next year but I changed employment and stamping is of previous employer. Will this be a problem while entering back USA by air or land?
 
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Harigalent

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Mar 28, 2019
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Hello guys
I have a stamped h1b & my spouse with stamped h4.

1. My spouse is the only PR applicant & have copr approved march 5th, 2020. Can she take peace arch crossing & do an u turn with H4 stamped visa? In other words, can she still use peace arch crossing with visa stamped?

2. Is that hard to convince the canada border officials that we will take an U turn to usa & just came in for copr stamp?

3. I have canada visitor visa. Can i travel with her in the car to peace arch crossing & do an u turn? Will canada official stop me because of non essential travel & not a part of PR application?

Please help :(
 

starlordavuthu

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Apr 13, 2020
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Hello guys
I have a stamped h1b & my spouse with stamped h4.

1. My spouse is the only PR applicant & have copr approved march 5th, 2020. Can she take peace arch crossing & do an u turn with H4 stamped visa? In other words, can she still use peace arch crossing with visa stamped?

2. Is that hard to convince the canada border officials that we will take an U turn to usa & just came in for copr stamp?

3. I have canada visitor visa. Can i travel with her in the car to peace arch crossing & do an u turn? Will canada official stop me because of non essential travel & not a part of PR application?

Please help :(
Yes, soft landing is not part of essential travel anymore. I am afraid you will be turned away and no visitors are allowed unless you have immediate family already in Canada.