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Ray of Hope - 145th Draw - CEC

Srabon31

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If they are the same, why FSW candidates had objection against taking CEC candidates?
A lot people cry about lot of thing's does it change the context though? If they are crying over CEC draw and you are crying over why they are crying then you both should open another thread called Ray Hope of Crying. Additionally it will be very pathetic of someone to think that having objection over CEC will draw attention of IRCC to think otherwise. Chill out man!
 
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yyzstudent

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If they are the same, why FSW candidates had objection against taking CEC candidates?
They are not the same. Most people can qualify for FSW, if they have enough points. Only people with minimum 1 year work experience in Canada qualify for CEC.

I only qualified for CEC when I put in my profile, but when I added the LMIA, I also qualified for FSW.
 
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Ochenta8

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Aug 16, 2018
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Canada
Category........
CEC
NOC Code......
0711
Pre-Assessed..
Yes
AOR Received.
15 -July-2020
Med's Done....
20-Sept-2020
A lot of PNP happening theses days:

—“Canadian immigration news in brief: April 27 - April 30”

1. Ontario invited 26 entrepreneurs with scores of at least 132 to apply for a provincial nomination for Canadian permanent residence.

2. Nova Scotia invited French-speaking Express Entry candidates to apply for a provincial nomination for Canadian permanent residence.

3. Sudbury, the largest city in Northern Ontario with a population of nearly 165,000, has held its first ever Rural and Northern Immigration Pilot (RNIP) draw.

4. British Columbia has issued invitations to apply to candidates in Express Entry BC and Skills Immigration streams on April 29.

5. Ontario issued invitations to apply to 190 candidates in 14 skilled trades occupations.

6.Ontario issued invitations to 307 French-speaking Express Entry candidates.

PNP are the next trend for immigration that’s for sure.
 
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mkarimzadeh

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Sep 25, 2019
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A lot people cry about lot of thing's does it change the context though? If they are crying over CEC draw and you are crying over why they are crying then you both should open another thread called Ray Hope of Crying. Additionally it will be very pathetic of someone to think that having objection over CEC will draw attention of IRCC to think otherwise. Chill out man!
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A lot of PNP happening theses days:

—“Canadian immigration news in brief: April 27 - April 30”

1. Ontario invited 26 entrepreneurs with scores of at least 132 to apply for a provincial nomination for Canadian permanent residence.

2. Nova Scotia invited French-speaking Express Entry candidates to apply for a provincial nomination for Canadian permanent residence.

3. Sudbury, the largest city in Northern Ontario with a population of nearly 165,000, has held its first ever Rural and Northern Immigration Pilot (RNIP) draw.

4. British Columbia has issued invitations to apply to candidates in Express Entry BC and Skills Immigration streams on April 29.

5. Ontario issued invitations to apply to 190 candidates in 14 skilled trades occupations.

6.Ontario issued invitations to 307 French-speaking Express Entry candidates.

PNP are the next trend for immigration that’s for sure.
I totally agree.
 

nns14

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Feb 10, 2018
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Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Nairobi, Kenya
NOC Code......
2147
App. Filed.......
26-09-2019
AOR Received.
26-09-2019
File Transfer...
24-10-2019
Passport Req..
18-Jul-2022
VISA ISSUED...
05-Aug-2022
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11-Jan-2023
The reason is that CEC candidates are mostly already in Canada, they don't have problems traveling. PNP nominations expire after 6 months and it would be a hassle if the provinces ended up having to reissue all the PNP nominations amd link them to your EE profile again in a few months when covid is over.
Those are no valid reasons not to include FSW-O candidates. Application processing takes 6 months plus at least one month which the applicant will take to gather the documents. There's no way the world will be lockdown for that long. Economies will crash.

I really don't understand the reasoning of IRCC.
 

yyzstudent

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Those are no valid reasons not to include FSW-O candidates. Application processing takes 6 months plus at least one month which the applicant will take to gather the documents. There's no way the world will be lockdown for that long. Economies will crash.

I really don't understand the reasoning of IRCC.
We’re in a pandemic. You are right that countries ant keep businesses shit down for too long, but as I said, we’re in a pandemic.

To only invite PNP and CEC makes complete sense. Most of those are already in the country, which limits incoming travel. Just because countries eventually open up, doesn’t mean the virus has disappeared. It will be quite some time before we’re back to the way things were. Travel spreads the virus and I don’t think we’ll be back to previous style of invites until there is a functioning cure and/or vaccine.
 

NOC98

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Leaving this here, but take it with a grain of salt: https://moving2canada.com/express-entry-draw/

To quote from the blog: “Since COVID-19 became a public health crisis in Canada, IRCC has been restricting draws to candidates from either Provincial Nominee Programs (PNPs) or Canadian Experience Class (CEC). We have confirmed with a trusted legal source, who spoke directly with key staff at IRCC and the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), that IRCC is intentionally limiting Express Entry draws to CEC and PNP candidates in response to the health crisis.”
 

NiclasB

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Sep 15, 2019
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Leaving this here, but take it with a grain of salt: https://moving2canada.com/express-entry-draw/

To quote from the blog: “Since COVID-19 became a public health crisis in Canada, IRCC has been restricting draws to candidates from either Provincial Nominee Programs (PNPs) or Canadian Experience Class (CEC). We have confirmed with a trusted legal source, who spoke directly with key staff at IRCC and the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), that IRCC is intentionally limiting Express Entry draws to CEC and PNP candidates in response to the health crisis.”
I could see that. Their twitter has said some similar things too, right? Something that the CEC and PNP draws have been done to target people who are likely to already be in the country. But they always say they don't speculate on future draws. This quote definitely makes it seem like that is both the idea of the past couple of draws, but also for the future.

It is probably a bit of a win win in a way. People who are already here don't need to go back to another country and start a life there again, in the middle of a pandemic. Staying is definitely easier. At least in my position as someone on a working visa currently. And for Canada they get to keep people already integrated in the economy, who hopefully still have jobs, or will have one once things start up again. And who doesn't need to figure out travel and then find a home in canada and a job. It helps out both parties.

And for people in FSW. There are still only about 4500 people with scores over 470. So a draw of 4000 like the past all pool draw would probably put it right at 471 like before the pandemic. And I wouldn't be surprised if they do a bigger draw or two once things have settled down, just to get the FSW score back to what it was.
 

Islander216

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Nov 27, 2019
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Leaving this here, but take it with a grain of salt: https://moving2canada.com/express-entry-draw/

To quote from the blog: “Since COVID-19 became a public health crisis in Canada, IRCC has been restricting draws to candidates from either Provincial Nominee Programs (PNPs) or Canadian Experience Class (CEC). We have confirmed with a trusted legal source, who spoke directly with key staff at IRCC and the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), that IRCC is intentionally limiting Express Entry draws to CEC and PNP candidates in response to the health crisis.”
There's no doubt it's because of the pandemic to my mind.

The question is, how long are they going to continue doing that?
 

Issygn

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Feb 16, 2020
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Like i mentioned earlier on, Ontario is issuing its second rounds of invitations with no restrictions to any group. For those waiting on OINP,brace up because this might be the time. Congrats to those who have received NOI
 

Issygn

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Feb 16, 2020
569
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A lot of PNP happening theses days:

—“Canadian immigration news in brief: April 27 - April 30”

1. Ontario invited 26 entrepreneurs with scores of at least 132 to apply for a provincial nomination for Canadian permanent residence.

2. Nova Scotia invited French-speaking Express Entry candidates to apply for a provincial nomination for Canadian permanent residence.

3. Sudbury, the largest city in Northern Ontario with a population of nearly 165,000, has held its first ever Rural and Northern Immigration Pilot (RNIP) draw.

4. British Columbia has issued invitations to apply to candidates in Express Entry BC and Skills Immigration streams on April 29.

5. Ontario issued invitations to apply to 190 candidates in 14 skilled trades occupations.

6.Ontario issued invitations to 307 French-speaking Express Entry candidates.

PNP are the next trend for immigration that’s for sure.
Jan, May and August are usually huge time for PNP so it seems appropriate to see many of them now. OINP requested that their PNP qouta be doubled so if that happens, we may see even more of PNP.
 

seadrag0n

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Mar 6, 2018
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Like i mentioned earlier on, Ontario is issuing its second rounds of invitations with no restrictions to any group. For those waiting on OINP,brace up because this might be the time. Congrats to those who have received NOI
Yes, OINP has invited FSW candidates yesterday. I think next draw will be FSW so that OINP can invite candidates in 460+ range for tech/general draw.