Is work experience calculated based on weeks or days

[JaaKaaa]

@Wolfpmd3 That is ok, but it is clear that in this case he has more than 1 year of continuous WE, and 30h/w so no need to complicate things talking in general.

Real question is - if you start on 1.1.2018 and work until 29.12.2019, 2 days short of a full year, but get 1560h with 30h/w, does the agent counts that as a full year? Or, in his case, as 3 years...

As I told earlier, it would be pity to get rejected, that would ruin whole year of waiting/applying. I assume that @NicoHughes will get back home from USA and spend there several months. He should, in my honest opinion, try to get job under the same NOC before appying. Or try to get CLB10, if not already.

Just as a warning, acquaintance of mine got rejected after 4.5 months of waiting for not submitting color scan of diploma, even though he had submitted WES report and translated diploma with BW copy attached. He has to start all over again. If @NicoHughes gets nervous agent as that friend of mine has, he might get rejected. Although, he might pass, but the risk is too big.

 

[NicoHughes]

@Wolfpmd3 That is ok, but it is clear that in this case he has more than 1 year of continuous WE, and 30h/w so no need to complicate things talking in general.

Real question is - if you start on 1.1.2018 and work until 29.12.2019, 2 days short of a full year, but get 1560h with 30h/w, does the agent counts that as a full year? Or, in his case, as 3 years...

As I told earlier, it would be pity to get rejected, that would ruin whole year of waiting/applying. I assume that @NicoHughes will get back home from USA and spend there several months. He should, in my honest opinion, try to get job under the same NOC before appying. Or try to get CLB10, if not already.

Just as a warning, acquaintance of mine got rejected after 4.5 months of waiting for not submitting color scan of diploma, even though he had submitted WES report and translated diploma with BW copy attached. He has to start all over again. If @NicoHughes gets nervous agent as that friend of mine has, he might get rejected. Although, he might pass, but the risk is too big.

Thank for your response and I understand your concern.

Actually I've had another 12 weeks of full time paid internship (40 hours/week, under same NOC) before graduation, it's not required for my graduation and it's done in the summer. I might consider adding this experience in my EE profile if the 3 YOE thing doesn't stand by itself.

Even though people around me suggest not including the internship since it's really a gray area, also internship needs more documents to prove its validity, I know internship before graduation doesn't count towards CEC, but some people say it will count towards FSW.

So should I include that internship in my EE profile as well?

Yeah, I might have to look for another job after leaving US, but that's my back up plan then, also lots of hustle of doing that.

 

[Wolfpmd3]

@Wolfpmd3 That is ok, but it is clear that in this case he has more than 1 year of continuous WE, and 30h/w so no need to complicate things talking in general.

Real question is - if you start on 1.1.2018 and work until 29.12.2019, 2 days short of a full year, but get 1560h with 30h/w, does the agent counts that as a full year? Or, in his case, as 3 years...

As I told earlier, it would be pity to get rejected, that would ruin whole year of waiting/applying. I assume that @NicoHughes will get back home from USA and spend there several months. He should, in my honest opinion, try to get job under the same NOC before appying. Or try to get CLB10, if not already.

Just as a warning, acquaintance of mine got rejected after 4.5 months of waiting for not submitting color scan of diploma, even though he had submitted WES report and translated diploma with BW copy attached. He has to start all over again. If @NicoHughes gets nervous agent as that friend of mine has, he might get rejected. Although, he might pass, but the risk is too big.

The real question already has an answer, but I don't get why it's so hard for you to understand.

1 year full time equivalent = 1560h distributed over a period of 52 weeks or more at no more than 30 hours per week.

--> you probably need to read this bold text many times and wrap your head around this concept, we are not talking about calendar years but full-time equivalents. Actual calendar years are not relevant here.

Thank for your response and I understand your concern.

Actually I've had another 12 weeks of full time paid internship (40 hours/week, under same NOC) before graduation, it's not required for my graduation and it's done in the summer. I might consider adding this experience in my EE profile if the 3 YOE thing doesn't stand by itself.

Even though people around me suggest not including the internship since it's really a gray area, also internship needs more documents to prove its validity, I know internship before graduation doesn't count towards CEC, but some people say it will count towards FSW.

So should I include that internship in my EE profile as well?

Yeah, I might have to look for another job after leaving US, but that's my back up plan then, also lots of hustle of doing that.

No it will not, because every year, to count, should be continuous, so if you have a 4-month Internship it will not count for anything. For FSW you cannot just add partial yearS until they add up to full years, which is something you can do under CEC.

 

[JaaKaaa]

Dear friend, no need to be intolerant. Peace

Yes, I understand well what you are trying to say, but you don't realize that he is trying to present 3 years of experience gained under 3 years. I know it's not that easy, there are two sides of that coin, but at the end of the line I wouldn't dare to apply with given circumstances.

However, I read your misinformation on continuous work, went on canada.ca to check and saw that @NicoHughes might count internship as it was paid work during studying, but I would definitely go to professional agent to get advice. Regarding no gaps, that is true only for minimum requirement - you need 1 year of continuous work to be able to apply (or eq. part time), but all work within the last 10 years count, as long as it is within appropriate (same) NOC code. Hope I'm not wrong

Cheers!

 

[jes_ON]

Hi,

I'm currently working full time (40 hours/week) in US on OPT after obtaining my master degree here, missed H-1B lottery so will be unemployed (at least unpaid leave) after my OPT expires, currently I'm thinking about applying for EE as back up plan.

I did some raw CRS score calculation for myself, and realized that I won't be able to meet that ~470 cutoff score until I have 3 YOE in hand. But my current US visa (OPT) is valid for max 3 years, and my projected working date for my current employer would be 01/22/2018 - 01/20/2021 (expected), I guess that's probably the date my employer would give me for a reference letter.

Basically assuming I'll be working during 01/22/2018 - 01/20/2021 without any gap:

• Total number of weeks: 156 weeks
• Total number of days: 1095 days (because 2020 is a leap year with 366 days)
• But on paper, it looks like 1 day shy of 3 years

I've also used this calculator: https://tools.knowledgewalls.com/online-work-experience-calculator

It simply divides total number of days by 365 to get the YOE, so mine would be 3 years 0 months 0 days.

My question is does IRCC calculate YOE based on weeks or days? Does my projected work time suffice that 3 years requirement for 25 additional points?

WOW.... so much fuss over this...

If your employment dates are 01/22/2018 - 01/20/2021, and you work full-time, then clearly you (will have) completed 3 years. You can submit your profile say a month before then, but if you get an ITA, you cannot get your letter of reference or submit your eAPR before you complete the 3rd year.

 

[newbiealpha]

WOW.... so much fuss over this...

If your employment dates are 01/22/2018 - 01/20/2021, and you work full-time, then clearly you (will have) completed 3 years. You can submit your profile say a month before then, but if you get an ITA, you cannot get your letter of reference or submit your eAPR before you complete the 3rd year.

How is this 3 year? If minimum age limit for enlisting in army is 19 years then in a leap year would they let you enlist on 20th March if your birthday is on 22nd March?

 

[NicoHughes]

How is this 3 year? If minimum age limit for enlisting in army is 19 years then in a leap year would they let you enlist on 20th March if your birthday is on 22nd March?

There's a difference between "calendar year" and "1 year of work experience", at least IRCC never says anywhere on its website that 1 year = 365 days (or 366 days for leap year).

Counting the days might be true for PR maintenance (730 days, 1095 day, etc), but when it comes to calculating year of work experience, IRCC never has made an accurate statement about that.

For age and birth calculation, there's no ambiguity and it's crystal clear for anyone, since everyone uses same calculation method from their birth date.

 

[NicoHughes]

How is this 3 year? If minimum age limit for enlisting in army is 19 years then in a leap year would they let you enlist on 20th March if your birthday is on 22nd March?

Let's assume someone has the following full time work experience:

• 01/22/2018 - 02/25/2019, 400 days
• 03/01/2019 - 02/01/2021, 695 days

Will you count this guy's experience as 3 years of experience or not? If so, could you explain why? This guy has worked exact number of days as me.

 

[newbiealpha]

There's a difference between "calendar year" and "1 year of work experience", at least IRCC never says anywhere on its website that 1 year = 365 days (or 366 days for leap year).

Counting the days might be true for PR maintenance (730 days, 1095 day, etc), but when it comes to calculating year of work experience, IRCC never has made an accurate statement about that.

CIC visa officers have lot of desecration in many matters, however if experience is calculated by a program after taking the dates from the form, then a job starting on 22nd March and ending on 20th March would not be considered one year.
If someone wants to take their chances they can go ahead, but risk of losing processing fee in case experience is not counted as three years.

 

[Wolfpmd3]

I am sorry, but definitely @JaaKaaa and @newbiealpha are both, how to put it nicely, not very bright, to say the least.

Talk all about you want about leap years or calendar years, you are missing the point and totally not understanding.

There's a difference between "calendar year" and "1 year of work experience", at least IRCC never says anywhere on its website that 1 year = 365 days (or 366 days for leap year).

Counting the days might be true for PR maintenance (730 days, 1095 day, etc), but when it comes to calculating year of work experience, IRCC never has made an accurate statement about that.

For age and birth calculation, there's no ambiguity and it's crystal clear for anyone, since everyone uses same calculation method from their birth date.

@jes_ON has also provided some input, which is exactly what I said.
I think @NicoHughes it is not worth continuing to discuss this when it's crystal clear how work experience is calculated.

Bottom line, every 52 week where you have worked 30h or more every week, equal to 1 year full time. Calendar years and leap years are complete irrelevant to this conversation. And yes 52 weeks equal 364 days, but for CIC purposes in terms of work experience, that'll give you 1 year. You don't need the extra 1 or 2 days.

Comments such as that made by @newbiealpha regarding enlisting in the army is senseless and has nothing to do with this, sadly some people can't grasp a fairly simple concept.

Good luck!

 

[NicoHughes]

@Wolfpmd3 Thank you man, I'll stop the debate after this final reply.

@JaaKaaa and @newbiealpha I know I will probably never convince you guys for rest of my life on this, since even if I get my application approved in the end, you will still tend to think that I run into a lenient VO instead of that's how they actually calculate it.

But I'm just unable to understand the rational behind your reasoning, take this example:

• 01/22/2018 - 02/25/2019, 400 days
• 03/01/2019 - 02/01/2021, 695 days

Do you think this person meets 3 YOE requirements? If so, why or why not? And why is my case different from him?

Another example would be:

• 01/22/2018 - 01/27/2021, with 7 unpaid days in between, so that's also 1095 days

 

[Chris Jenifer]

Hey,

In my suggestion, I would say they would calculate the number of hours you have worked so far.

If in case you have worked for a year, you need to calculate the total number of hours which will provide you 1560 hours.

I used a Percentage Calculator in this case which might be helpful for you!

 

[dekaron]

Hi,

Can you guys confirm that my calculations are correct please?
I have been employed for over 2 years in the same company, but on NOC-corresponding job only during the following dates:

01.03.2020 - 01.03.2021 (last day included is 28.02.2021 obviously).

I manually calculated weeks from 02.03.2020 (as 01 March 2020 was Sunday). It is exactly 52 weeks.
According to my calculations it is exactly 52 weeks, 1560 hours, and actually +1 day for 01.03.2020 but I do not count that.
It should be alright for 1 year work experience?

Calculators online seem to confirm:
https://www.calculator.net/date-calculator.html
https://www.thecalculatorsite.com/time/days-between-dates.php

1 year full time equivalent = 1560h distributed over a period of 52 weeks or more at no more than 30 hours per week.

Thanks!

 

[Chavy22]

Thank for your response and I understand your concern.

Actually I've had another 12 weeks of full time paid internship (40 hours/week, under same NOC) before graduation, it's not required for my graduation and it's done in the summer. I might consider adding this experience in my EE profile if the 3 YOE thing doesn't stand by itself.

Even though people around me suggest not including the internship since it's really a gray area, also internship needs more documents to prove its validity, I know internship before graduation doesn't count towards CEC, but some people say it will count towards FSW.

So should I include that internship in my EE profile as well?

Yeah, I might have to look for another job after leaving US, but that's my back up plan then, also lots of hustle of doing that.
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Hi,

I'm currently working full time (40 hours/week) in US on OPT after obtaining my master degree here, missed H-1B lottery so will be unemployed (at least unpaid leave) after my OPT expires, currently I'm thinking about applying for EE as back up plan.

I did some raw CRS score calculation for myself, and realized that I won't be able to meet that ~470 cutoff score until I have 3 YOE in hand. But my current US visa (OPT) is valid for max 3 years, and my projected working date for my current employer would be 01/22/2018 - 01/20/2021 (expected), I guess that's probably the date my employer would give me for a reference letter.

Basically assuming I'll be working during 01/22/2018 - 01/20/2021 without any gap:

• Total number of weeks: 156 weeks
• Total number of days: 1095 days (because 2020 is a leap year with 366 days)
• But on paper, it looks like 1 day shy of 3 years

I've also used this calculator: https://tools.knowledgewalls.com/online-work-experience-calculator

It simply divides total number of days by 365 to get the YOE, so mine would be 3 years 0 months 0 days.

My question is does IRCC calculate YOE based on weeks or days? Does my projected work time suffice that 3 years requirement for 25 additional points?

Hi, I have a similar problem. If you have confirmed the answer to this, do you mind sharing it with us.

Thanks