Ray of Hope - 141st Draw

[ZAtoCD]

I definitely empathize with everyone here. While I am still hoping for a positive outcome, it is unsettling. I think IRCC should be transparent regardless of what they are going to do. If they want to halt the draws until further notice, that's fine as long as they let people know. People need to be prepared for this.

I see no point in telling everyone the rounds of invitations are happening when there have been no signs of draws since the last CEC draw. If we don't have a draw today, we can't possibly expect a draw until Tuesday. If I am right (I hope I'm wrong), the influx of new candidates since the last draw should be spiking the cut-off by at least 5-10 points. If 470 was the average cut-off before everything went down, expect the cut-off to be in the range of 475-480.

If it's going to be program specific draw, the cut-off score will be slightly lower. On the other hand, Express Entry is not going to be sustainable if this pandemic is going to last for a minimum of a year. If they are going to ditch the program, let's hope they come up with a better alternative.

I will be the happiest person on the planet if they choose to go ahead with the draws, but I am prepared for the worst. I am absolutely gutted because if we had a draw this month, it would have been the first draw since I qualified (and created a profile) for Express Entry.

I hope at least it's nice to know you're not alone in this. I just missed the last FSW draw. My WES ECA took longer than expected (with no reason given), so I entered the pool shortly after the last FSW draw, with enough points to be drawn immediately, and there hasn't been one since. If I got in then, my application would be processing already, but instead, I'm waiting, just like everyone else. So, at least know that we're in this together.

 

[indianstudent96]

I hope at least it's nice to know you're not alone in this. I just missed the last FSW draw. My WES ECA took longer than expected (with no reason given), so I entered the pool shortly after the last FSW draw, with enough points to be drawn immediately, and there hasn't been one since. If I got in then, my application would be processing already, but instead, I'm waiting, just like everyone else. So, at least know that we're in this together.

Yes. It's a concern for everyone regardless of our CRS scores. I am sure there are other people just like us. It's amazing what a virus can do to the entire world.

I hope this pandemic makes all of us more humble and that we human beings are not invincible. Everyone here in Canada is disappointed as well due to losing summer to this virus

 

[indianstudent96]

Honestly I feel like next draw will be on 15th April. Please share your predictions for regular draw and CEC only draw.

Take this with a grain of salt. My prediction could be way off.

General draw : 475-480
CEC only: 470-473

If it's lower than my prediction, that would be great.

 

[KDM13]

I definitely empathize with everyone here. While I am still hoping for a positive outcome, it is unsettling. I think IRCC should be transparent regardless of what they are going to do. If they want to halt the draws until further notice, that's fine as long as they let people know. People need to be prepared for this.

I see no point in telling everyone the rounds of invitations are happening when there have been no signs of draws since the last CEC draw. If we don't have a draw today, we can't possibly expect a draw until Tuesday. If I am right (I hope I'm wrong), the influx of new candidates since the last draw should be spiking the cut-off by at least 5-10 points. If 470 was the average cut-off before everything went down, expect the cut-off to be in the range of 475-480.

If it's going to be program specific draw, the cut-off score will be slightly lower. On the other hand, Express Entry is not going to be sustainable if this pandemic is going to last for a minimum of a year. If they are going to ditch the program, let's hope they come up with a better alternative.

I will be the happiest person on the planet if they choose to go ahead with the draws, but I am prepared for the worst. I am absolutely gutted because if we had a draw this month, it would have been the first draw since I qualified (and created a profile) for Express Entry.

Exact same situation here, this is the first draw where I have enough points to get an ITA after waiting and watching for over a year so it was frustrating to not see a draw yesterday. I remain positive though, they have said that draws are still continuing, it's just a matter of how often they will be now. Maybe I'm naive but I believe if they had suspended them then they would have communicated it somewhere. Positive thoughts everyone.

 

[Igethope]

https://globalnews.ca/news/6799110/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-return-to-normality-trudeau/

No return to ‘normality’ until coronavirus vaccine is available, Trudeau says

 

[Rushbury1986]

Hello to everyone on here. I hope everyone is well in these uncertain times. I have a feeling that there won’t be a draw this week but I was wondering with how hard Covid has hit businesses such as WES and IELTS if the points are likely to decrease on the next draw. Only reason why I ask is due to how much the previous draw dropped by 5. My crs score is 459.

 

[cybertruck]

I am not trying or intending to scare or annoy/offend anyone here but as per my research analysis, the unemployment caused after 2008 global recession, took quite a significant time to settle down based on below graph from Canada government data.

Not only this, as more than a million Canadian have filed for employment insurance benefit due to 2020 pandemic situation, once the economy picks up again (i wish this happens at the earliest i.e. next month or sooner) GC will have to ensure creating more jobs in the market apart from the ones laid off during this pandemic to accommodate 1 million foreign immigrants between 2020-2022.

hope you guys will agree or any thoughts ?

I can see a huge spike in unemployment rate during 2020 which has almost reached 8% by March 2020 ( reached 2008 recession impact as per graph )

Canada Unemployment Rate

 

[Issygn]

Hello to everyone on here. I hope everyone is well in these uncertain times. I have a feeling that there won’t be a draw this week but I was wondering with how hard Clive has hit businesses such as WES and IELTS if the points are likely to decrease on the next draw. Only reason why I ask is due to how much the previous draw dropped by 5. My crs score is 459.

Well.... the issue on ground now isn’t even about what cutoff may look like but it is about a draw happening at all. The most pressing question now is if we are going to see a draw. However, 459 is way below the mark. Anything can still happen so stick around.

 

[cybertruck]

https://globalnews.ca/news/6799110/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-return-to-normality-trudeau/

No return to ‘normality’ until coronavirus vaccine is available, Trudeau says

trust me, I am following Justin Trudeau's daily press briefings for weeks now and have been monitoring the situation closely. if i share my worries here, people might block me from this forum.

 

[indianstudent96]

Base on the Econ issue now...more than 5 Millions people go unemployed and social welfare debt will be higher for Canada

What benefit does new immigrant bring to the country at short-medium term? fight the job between local people here? increase stress for government? Canada doesn't need more Taxi driver, IT ppl, restaurant server or grocery worker.

Unless you are millions and bring cash here to invest....otherwise EE is not important as before now...EE is good when Econ is good

Government need to help those 5 million who is about to lose their job first and tons of small-medium business to recover

Not hurting anyone here...just share the fact and prepare the worst

Okay, let me break this into smaller points:

Yes, people are getting laid off. They will be relying on the welfare system until the situation gets better. This means the government needs more taxes.

I never understood the competition between the locals and immigrants in the job market. Pandemic or not, the locals get the preference, at least based on my experience. No one is arguing about it.

The economy needs more cash flow which Express Entry candidates bring in. You make it sound like all immigrants just get into the country and start getting welfare payments without contributing to the economy. This is not the case.

More immigrants means wider tax base which results in more taxes. Regardless of the economic scenario, it has always been hard for immigrants to get a white-collar job. Sad truth but some of them end up taking blue-collar jobs. Actually, Canada needs more blue-collar workers now due to the circumstances.

The government is helping everyone by rolling out programs like CERB. They are already prioritizing their citizens and permanent residents over soon-to-be immigrants. The only thing that will hamper immigration is the resources the government has at the very moment. I am sure most federal employees are working from home and as a result of that, delays are to be expected.

Even if Canada is going into a much worse economic recession, shutting down immigration is only going to hurt the economy. At the end of the day, immigrants bring money into the economy, not the other way around. If IRCC decides to suspend all immigration programs, it will likely be temporary.

 

[Issygn]

I am not trying or intending to scare or annoy/offend anyone here but as per my research analysis, the unemployment caused after 2008 global recession, took quite a significant time to settle down based on below graph from Canada government data.

Not only this, as more than a million Canadian have filed for employment insurance benefit due to 2020 pandemic situation, once the economy picks up again (i wish this happens at the earliest i.e. next month or sooner) GC will have to ensure creating more jobs in the market apart from the ones laid off during this pandemic to accommodate 1 million foreign immigrants between 2020-2022.

hope you guys will agree or any thoughts ?

I can see a huge spike in unemployment rate during 2020.

Canada Unemployment Rate

How does government get to bridge the unemployment gap? Pump in new money into the economy using various parameters. Foreign investors, small scale business and all that. A country’s unemployment rate is not only about the figures. I believe that any country that already have the mechanism in place to grow would definitely bounce back stronger and Australia is a stark example. I hope That Canada can also get it right at this time .

 

[cybertruck]

How does government get to bridge the unemployment gap? Pump in new money into the economy using various parameters. Foreign investors, small scale business and all that. A country’s unemployment rate is not only about the figures. I believe that any country that already have the mechanism in place to grow would definitely bounce back stronger and Australia is a stark example. I hope That Canada can also get it right at this time .

Yes and GC is doing all it can to offer to support to businesses and employers in terms of wage subsidies, loan flexibility, etc.

I do agree to the fact that more immigrants bring more investment value to the economy and more taxes are paid to run the economy and if one does math with around 350,000 annual ITAs issued and considering immigrants do land and settle, only Skilled workers influx assures roughly a trillion dollar revenue (annually) for GC but at the same time, they still they have to create more jobs to keep the dice rolling!

 

[ZAtoCD]

Yes and GC is doing all it can to offer to support to businesses and employers in terms of wage subsidies, etc.

I do agree to the fact that more immigrants bring more investment value to the country and more taxes are paid to run the economy and if one does math with annual ITAs issued, only Skilled workers influx assures roughly a trillion dollar revenue for GC but at the same time, they still they have to create more jobs to keep the dice rolling!

And remember, there are many Canadians emigrating every year to other countries. So, they use us as replacements. The birth rate is low, as it's a developed nation, so if they want to sustain their population, they need skilled immigrants. And that's us!

 

[Issygn]

Yeah
The dice has to be rolling but i feel that opening up the entrenuership stream of immigration might be one option to consider (the money bag) but then, everything has to be in a controlled manner .

Yes and GC is doing all it can to offer to support to businesses and employers in terms of wage subsidies, loan flexibility, etc.

I do agree to the fact that more immigrants bring more investment value to the economy and more taxes are paid to run the economy and if one does math with around 350,000 annual ITAs issued and considering immigrants do land and settle, only Skilled workers influx assures roughly a trillion dollar revenue (annually) for GC but at the same time, they still they have to create more jobs to keep the dice rolling!

 

[Issygn]

Lolz
I don’t think they might be in a hurry to do that.
if you had read the link i posted to your comment, you will discover that there is a focus on “essentials”

And remember, there are many Canadians emigrating every year to other countries. So, they use us as replacements. The birth rate is low, as it's a developed nation, so if they want to sustain their population, they need skilled immigrants. And that's us!